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[News] KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule - Page 4

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 09 2009 04:04 GMT
#61
On May 09 2009 13:01 Ellis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 12:42 thunk wrote:
I want them to reverse the ceremony rule. I think that'd be cool.

You mean like they require an over the top obnoxious ceremony?

There should definitely be some sort of starleague with ceremonies, bm, and chatting all encouraged.

That's why I love watching all the All-Stars matches
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 09 2009 04:05 GMT
#62


So I guess we can thank Boxer for ruining it for the rest of the progamers, haha (thanks for helping us find it GTR).

1) I think this is just a temporary band-aid just hiding the real problem
2) KeSPA is struggling to find a way to balance being professional and keeping it entertaining. It's hard because if you completely allow ceremonies you're basically promoting showboating - not necessarily something you want your players known as. If you allow games with text you're adding humor but you're also promoting a possible lack of sportsman ship.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
May 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#63
In regards to the official kespa rules, why was bisu and SKT allowed to do that ceremony with the dancing and stuff? I thought that was banned now?
u gotta sk8
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 09 2009 04:36 GMT
#64
On May 09 2009 13:26 nataziel wrote:
In regards to the official kespa rules, why was bisu and SKT allowed to do that ceremony with the dancing and stuff? I thought that was banned now?

Only OFFENSIVE ceremonies (in the eyes of KeSPA) are banned. Such as crotch-thrusting.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 09 2009 04:36 GMT
#65
About time they made this change - of course they still need to address deeper underlying issues, but at least tihs moves in the right path.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
May 09 2009 04:38 GMT
#66
They still have that dumb conceding rule? ehh.. Well, at least they respond to criticisms.
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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
May 09 2009 06:16 GMT
#67
Poor leta.

netizens agree:
- i feel so fucking bad for leta...
- wow WTF are you fucking kidding me you bastards? hahahhahhahahaa.. wow, leta just became the victim here you fucking crazy bastards... you should have made the rules properly from the start what the fuck do you guys do right anyway?????????????
- ge-spa just shoves a shitload of money up their ass while they do nothing.
- what are you going to do about leta ge-spa!!!!!!! fuck, i'm starting to curse...
- what are you going to do about leta.. what are you going to do about leta who is shocked and heavily affected because of this...
- kespa work is easier than being a reporter
- this announcement will just make leta cry twice.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
May 09 2009 06:49 GMT
#68
Shame Sparkyz had to be on the receiving end of this rule, but good to see that they changed it so fast.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
May 09 2009 07:16 GMT
#69
The rules still seem harsh. :>
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
May 09 2009 07:20 GMT
#70
At least we see them doing something. Even if it doesn't help. We still know they exist.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 09 2009 09:53 GMT
#71
On May 09 2009 13:05 thunk wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex6IQdWfhf8&eurl=http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7260_BoxeR_vs_Junitoss/vod&feature=player_embedded

So I guess we can thank Boxer for ruining it for the rest of the progamers, haha (thanks for helping us find it GTR).

1) I think this is just a temporary band-aid just hiding the real problem
2) KeSPA is struggling to find a way to balance being professional and keeping it entertaining. It's hard because if you completely allow ceremonies you're basically promoting showboating - not necessarily something you want your players known as. If you allow games with text you're adding humor but you're also promoting a possible lack of sportsman ship.

Who cares about a "possible" lack of sportsmanship or showboating. Let the fans judge. If they dont like bad sportsmanship or showboating they will let their voice be heard and the players themselves will respond without the need of kespa. No players or teams want to be hated...the world has its own control systems, no need to make artificial ones. Personally I think a little Bm or showboating would do e sports some good. Every sport needs a villain.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 09 2009 12:11 GMT
#72
On May 09 2009 13:36 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 13:26 nataziel wrote:
In regards to the official kespa rules, why was bisu and SKT allowed to do that ceremony with the dancing and stuff? I thought that was banned now?

Only OFFENSIVE ceremonies (in the eyes of KeSPA) are banned. Such as crotch-thrusting.


they banned crotch thrusting? what's the fucking point the cons of banning it outweigh the pros by far
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 09 2009 15:00 GMT
#73
What , no crotch thrusting!? The population of korea is doomed...no more babies
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
May 09 2009 15:48 GMT
#74
tch this is retarded, i prefer the days where u can type anything including a TT when all your bcs get pwned by scourge
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AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 16:00:06
May 09 2009 15:49 GMT
#75

there it is, yeah fuck you kespa, revert to this
Translator
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
May 09 2009 15:56 GMT
#76
4000 - wow
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
May 09 2009 16:19 GMT
#77
Good news, although it's still late. This is the problem with all rules or laws: the fact that people feel a need to follow the letter, rather than the spirit of the law.
Sullifam
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 09 2009 16:37 GMT
#78
On May 10 2009 00:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
What , no crotch thrusting!? The population of korea is doomed...no more babies


haha it's like that family guy episode where everything offensive was getting banned

KESPA = FCC
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 09 2009 16:38 GMT
#79
On May 09 2009 18:53 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 13:05 thunk wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex6IQdWfhf8&eurl=http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7260_BoxeR_vs_Junitoss/vod&feature=player_embedded

So I guess we can thank Boxer for ruining it for the rest of the progamers, haha (thanks for helping us find it GTR).

1) I think this is just a temporary band-aid just hiding the real problem
2) KeSPA is struggling to find a way to balance being professional and keeping it entertaining. It's hard because if you completely allow ceremonies you're basically promoting showboating - not necessarily something you want your players known as. If you allow games with text you're adding humor but you're also promoting a possible lack of sportsman ship.

Who cares about a "possible" lack of sportsmanship or showboating. Let the fans judge. If they dont like bad sportsmanship or showboating they will let their voice be heard and the players themselves will respond without the need of kespa. No players or teams want to be hated...the world has its own control systems, no need to make artificial ones. Personally I think a little Bm or showboating would do e sports some good. Every sport needs a villain.


I feel that's a very American thing to say. KeSPA wants to keep a professional image and in Korea it's probably less acceptable to showboat than it is in America (you saw how awkward Midas was when he preformed his ceremonies). Of course no player or team wants to be hated but it just takes one or two bad decisions to reflect poorly on KeSPA. It would take a gigantic leap of faith for KeSPA to say that we will let our players speak for us about professionalism and not try to regulate what players do.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
May 10 2009 17:04 GMT
#80
On May 09 2009 02:51 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 00:21 konadora wrote:
On May 09 2009 00:15 Nevuk wrote:
From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)


I think there are other rules not mentioned in this article that forbids that. I think it was made after that game involving Boxer on Forte about how he said his base was small, and his opponent starting checking madly for a proxy.


Hahahahaha. God I love Boxer.


Agreed. If anything, it's more SC mindgames.
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