EPTTL Mafia V: The Wrath of KHAAAAAANN - Page 6
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
So if mikey IS blue, either BC is red or VI. If mikey is red, BC is a sane DT. So if wether we lynch BC or mikey first, we pretty much know if the other is red/VI or a blue/DT. I'd just remove all those possibilities with an insane DT or any of them being green (except VI) | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
He can't possibly be the insane detective because I'm the insane detective. Showtime! said so himself. And if I'm not the insane detective, then that means that Showtime! is lying. If he's lying, then that means that he is the mafia. Lynch him! By the way, I've found the seventh mafia. Scaramanga. "Don't be a macho man He wanna be tough." Notice what words we can find in Scaramanga's name: Scar and Man. Well, Caller blatantly uses the word "man" in the initial line. And think about a scar. It symbolizes toughness. Furthermore, Scar is a character in The Searchers, and in the film, he is one of the tough, alpha males. Tough = macho. And then there's more! "Don't wanna see your face, you better disappear." Where is the most common place to find a scar? A face of course, or, to put it more simplistically, the face. When something disappears, you have to search for it. Once more we see the validation of my "analysis" at hand. Not enough proof for you? It sure wasn't for me. So I kept searching. And then I somehow stumbled upon this: "FlaSh/Stats HWAITING | Nevergg > all of fomos | "Im gonna be like water" Liquid.NonY." Keep this on the down low. It's between you and me. As you can see, he has a quote from NonY in his profile. Caller constantly uses the lyrics, "Beat it. Just beat it." Beat what, you may ask? Of course you will, for I did, too. Courage. That's your answer. And NonY recently went to Courage. This is about ALL the evidence you could possibly hope for. Just to finish it off cleanly, I refer back to some more lyrics. The first says, "Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man." Again the man. Scaramanga. GG. You're welcome. Day 7 lynch? Scaramanga. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
The town always goes against my logic because it's "shit, we might lose a DT tho...". With mikey claiming to be blue now those same townies can think "damn, we might lose a blue this way too..." hopefully countering that ass backwards thinking. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:20 CynanMachae wrote: The only thing that is bothering me is blue roleclaim by mikeymoo. It would have been much better for the town if he had claimed he was green and that BC was insane. Now, as I don't think any of them are green, we will pretty much lynch a red or a blue (if we do lynch one of them). I'd agree with Ace that lynching the accuser first would be better else in every mafia game a mafia would start by accusing someone of being mafia, but it's just that I feel that mikey's defense changes things a little. So if mikey IS blue, either BC is red or VI. If mikey is red, BC is a sane DT. So if wether we lynch BC or mikey first, we pretty much know if the other is red/VI or a blue/DT. I'd just remove all those possibilities with an insane DT or any of them being green (except VI) yes so its pretty simple, the only add on is that if mm is red then we have a trusted dt that can help the town (send the martyr there). If we lynch BC first we risk losing the dt and letting one more mafia alive first night. Meh if BC would had chosen other player to make the call i would have already voted. | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:26 Ace wrote: Also whatever happens, lynch Ozc3 the next day. Not enough clue analysis for you, eh? I'll do some more after tonight. You guys might be surprised by my findings. ! | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:25 Ace wrote: Actually assuming mikey is legit, it makes more sense for him to really claim blue. The town always goes against my logic because it's "shit, we might lose a DT tho...". With mikey claiming to be blue now those same townies can think "damn, we might lose a blue this way too..." hopefully countering that ass backwards thinking. Claiming blue is the only thing a mafia could do in that position to hope to not get lynched ace. My rolecall to be effective for the other dt's requires his death, as well as for myself, if he was mafia, saying he is blue is the only way to defend himself. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Claiming blue is the only thing a mafia could do in that position to hope to not get lynched ace. My rolecall to be effective for the other dt's requires his death, as well as for myself, if he was mafia, saying he is blue is the only way to defend himself. hmm.. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:25 Ace wrote: Actually assuming mikey is legit, it makes more sense for him to really claim blue. The town always goes against my logic because it's "shit, we might lose a DT tho...". With mikey claiming to be blue now those same townies can think "damn, we might lose a blue this way too..." hopefully countering that ass backwards thinking. By that reasoning, doesn't it make just as much sense for mikeymoo to be red and claim as blue, if the town is reluctant to lynch blues? Either mikey or BC is lying. We have to figure out which lynch will provide us more information. I don't know which one that is at the moment. And right now i have to eat dinner but i will be thinking deeply during that time and return with my conclusion. | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Claiming blue is the only thing a mafia could do in that position to hope to not get lynched ace. My rolecall to be effective for the other dt's requires his death, as well as for myself, if he was mafia, saying he is blue is the only way to defend himself. If you are DT and he's mafia, claiming blue doesnt save him. Suppose we lynch you, you pop blue, uh well, mikey's red. Say he said he was green, we lynch you, you pop blue, well, we are still not sure about mikey. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
If BC really was a DT, all this time he would be advocating for himself to be lynched. Because if he REALLY was a DT, him flipping blue would have exposed mikeymoo as liar (since he would have lied about being a blue) and also cleared up some DTs that check mikeymoo to figure shit out by the arrival of Night 2. BC hasn't once offered himself up as the sacrifice. He has to be lying. Lynch him. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:47 CynanMachae wrote: If you are DT and he's mafia, claiming blue doesnt save him. Suppose we lynch you, you pop blue, uh well, mikey's red. Say he said he was green, we lynch you, you pop blue, well, we are still not sure about mikey. Yes but mm said "im blue". So its one or another. Since the town wins more if BC is the legit ill go with him. If we lynch BC and turns VI or even mafia what do we win? in that case mm is still unsure. But if mm is lynched and turns up blue then at least we know that BC is not townie and we let him alone forever or lynch him or vigi him. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:47 CynanMachae wrote: If you are DT and he's mafia, claiming blue doesnt save him. Suppose we lynch you, you pop blue, uh well, mikey's red. Say he said he was green, we lynch you, you pop blue, well, we are still not sure about mikey. I mean it in the sense that, by saying he is blue it throws us down to "hes lying no hes lying" If he was red or green, I could be insane, i even said it is a possibility. Blue is his only way of trying to refute i am a dt. And to re-iterate to everyone who hasn't read this yet. Lynching me first does not prove anything to dt's on day 2 or 3. I will flip detective, then town Still has to then check mikey again in another way on my rolecheck. Wasting rolechecks. Ace's logic on lynching me first will give less information to the town than lynching mikey, that is simple. Your all basically thinking in your head "kill the accuser to prove hes legit, or the accused to prove if the dt is legit" Problem with this, killing me does not prove mikey's role, killing him proves mine, as well as is instrumental for the other dt's. You also are going well "ace said this was a good idea" Ace also stated he adopts almost the same thing but worse. He prefers to recieve random pm claims of "hey im a dt, so and so is red" and will lynch based off that, rather than someone taking the risk of standing up and coming out into the open. Seriously, consider that I'm risking my own death(if i was mafia this is retarded of a strategy) to snipe one random player? If i were mafia i would have claimed to be a voice of a dt, and gotten more people lynched that way. The only time that someone would push to lynch a DT is if they were afraid of being found out as red. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:54 Ace wrote: I hope the real DTs are looking at the people arguing against me right now because no one can be this stupid. If BC really was a DT, all this time he would be advocating for himself to be lynched. Because if he REALLY was a DT, him flipping blue would have exposed mikeymoo as liar (since he would have lied about being a blue) and also cleared up some DTs that check mikeymoo to figure shit out by the arrival of Night 2. BC hasn't once offered himself up as the sacrifice. He has to be lying. Lynch him. Ace its the information that is gathered from it, In the case of the insane DT you gain more information from lynching the accused than the accuser, that is clear as day, and the fact you dont see it, or are refusing to a) makes you the VI or b) mafia as well. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On December 31 2008 07:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ace its the information that is gathered from it, In the case of the insane DT you gain more information from lynching the accused than the accuser, that is clear as day, and the fact you dont see it, or are refusing to a) makes you the VI or b) mafia as well. Same as game 3, we have no choice but to lynch the accuser. It's always the best option, especially with insane dts in the game. Ace has covered the logic already in his posts, but if you want more go to game 3 and read my posts in there. There's another reason to lynch BC, because this was such a dumb move by him if he was the dt, behaviourally I have to imagine that he isn't the dt. This leaves him as either Village Idiot or mafia. Lynching either is a good thing. If he flips VI, he gets his personal win and there'll be less derailment. If he's mafia well we all know that's a good thing. And then the crux of the matter, If he truly is a detective he will very likely die tonight. Mafia don't seem to have a habit of leaving them around if you've noticed. If he's insane and we lynch mikey, we lost a townie/blue, and then we lose the dt at night. Logically, lynching BC gives us the most info for the smallest loss, that's what it comes down to. And then behaviourally what he did makes no sense which is usually a good sign something is up. | ||
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