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The only dangerous thing about me is the truth though. I’ll gladly stuff it into the fauces of those who thought to exploit me during my period of biggest weakness.
With blackmail and extortion. Fuck me I guess I am not related to Austrian apparataschicks. Fuck me I guess I have to pay for criminal government to do a service to me but they still won’t.
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Schwab just like the sticks you used to put up your ass if the need was given.
What a negative example of a human being. Loweat tier.
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Real estate and crooked cops best shit ever
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Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I was chosen to waste an entire day seeing other people vote but as always they overbooked and I was let GOOOOoooooll
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Fuck. So lucky. 5 people actually wanted to do that. Jeez. Crazy.
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So marv, sandroba and mocsta are mafia and I replaced somebody with a huge filter so kinda confirmed town.
Good stuff. Today will be great.
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I'll start woth saying Kelsier was obvious town. Why would mafia be so obtuse and angry in the start. That guy did not want to blend in.
Oh well.
Oh and I read till page 24.
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lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off.
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On June 09 2024 13:24 Trfel wrote: If scott31337 is town, I guess I don't understand why this makes rsoultin/Koshi mafia?
Imagine if the situation was reversed and we lynched scott31337 and (imagine) he flipped town, would this make AlphaZero mafia?
I'm really not understanding this. I guess I could maybe understand this if your view is that scott31337 is objectively way way scummier than Kelsi3r was and that this looks like it for everyone, no matter what. In that case, sure I could see rsoultin's town lean on scott31337 being TMI and AlphaZero's null read on Kelsi3r not being TMI. But that seems like a huge stretch.
Like if you see it that way that's one thing, but to insist that everyone has to? I mean I don't see it that way, so that immediately disproves it? Unless you think that I (and only I) am an idiot, which is true but this whole thing still feels like a stretch to me. Not really thinking scott31337 is mafia. Could be wrong, part of me wonders if it's best to just let him die to the "holy" crusade, but that feels so bad.... Will try and think more about it later.
Really confused about raynpelikoneet. Is he mafia in hyper buddy mode or something? I never would have thought it possible for raynpelikoneet to go five pages without an actual scumread, regardless of alignment, and I don't know what this means? My best guess is to rely on the prior townread due to his reads being interesting, but I can't discount the possibility that he is mafia and went super buddy mode. But it's like, why would he do that when he could just play normally if he is mafia? Seems more reasonable that he somehow didn't see anything that really stuck out as scummy or worth pushing, and then wasn't available to find anything during the second half of day 1.
Still really confused by Oatsmaster. Maybe he's just town because memory says that when he's obnoxious and useless he's town, but it's really really hard for me to get past how obnoxious some of his play has been. I'm not sure if I can just let this drop. Even if maybe I should.
He's going to ask me to provide quotes and examples and I'm going to ignore him.
I think AlphaZero is unlikely to be mafia just due to the amount of investment at the lynch. Sure, he could theoretically be mafia and making all this fuss for no reason, but the key is that there'd be no reason.
Idk, marvellosity is playing the game, which usually means he is town. If it wasn't for him typically not playing the game as mafia though, would I think he is town? Maybe I just stick with the funny read/metric, it feels pretty tinfoily here to think marvellosity is mafia, I guess that ought to be good enough for now.
Honestly I'm kinda disappointed in Vivax, I was expecting some amazing insight and it ended up just being a misunderstanding Such a let down. A simple activity metric suggests that Vivax is town, but his activity isn't out of the realm of possibility as mafia, just unlikely. I'm having trouble finding anything notable in his filter (to be fair I'm just randomly opening pages and skimming which probably isn't the best method) but part of me is concerned that he seemed fine lynching Kelsi3r, seemed fine lynching scott31337, and then comes up with this?On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote: Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience.
Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him. Vivax wanted scott31337 lynched I assume, I mean Vivax was voting for scott31337, so why is Vivax saying this instead of looking to make sure scott31337 actually gets lynched? Even from the perspective of purely an observation and not a desire it doesn't sit right to me.
Part of me wonders if die_meatbaby is mafia? No real reason, I do feel a bit weird about her posts on not really wanting to lynch scott31337:On June 08 2024 09:42 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 09:37 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 09:12 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 09:10 Trfel wrote:Not really sure what to say. I don't know what to think of scott31337, he looks suspicious but I feel like I've mislynched him a million times and I'm not sure if this game is any different I was trying to mess with him to change something and let me get a read on him but it didn't really work. Maybe I should see if the discrepancies in his posts are mafia motivated? I guess that makes sense? Idon't think the early thing about masons/whisperers/whatever had much mafia motivation. It's clumsy, but honestly it strikes me more as clumsy than scummy.I actually kinda liked scott31337's post on AlphaZero. Not that I agree with it, but I think it's a reasonable perspective for scott31337 to have as town? I don't know why he would do this as mafia, I guess I doubt he'd have the confidence? I could definitely be wrong, but like, scott31337 brought up an original argument. That's pretty neat. Even if it's (imo) a bad argument, I'm still pleasantly surprised So yeah, I kinda don't want to lynch scott31337. Could absolutely be wrong, it's far from the worst lynch ever, but I don't find the arguments super compelling given the context.
Don't really want to lynch sandroba either unless something changes, either in his play or in my read. His play hasn't been super inspiring or anything imo, but I don't think that makes him mafia. Maybe if we keep waiting and this doesn't change I could start to see it but we haven't even been playing for 24 hours, I don't think it's reasonable to hold him to super high standards at this time. If he did something scummy that'd be different, but a lack of super towny stuff doesn't make him mafia imo.
I guess I'll just wait and hope that either people re-evaluate Kelsi3r or I'm wrong (which is pretty likely tbh, I have no idea how to find mafia on day 1 especially, my reads tend to be more accurate when flipped upside down). So maybe it's a good thing that no one agrees XD Or clumsy in a scummy way Theoretically yes, but that's not how I read it. I guess I don't put much weight in the idea that scum say little things to look like they're present without actually doing anything. Or rather, I think town ends up with similar posts pretty often, especially at the start of the game. It's just hard for me to say with any confidence that this is a scum trait. Maybe for strong town players it could be scummy, but I see this from less confident town players all the time. I also don't think that the way scott31337 posted came from a mafia motivated mindset. Like, why would scott31337 be more inclined to make that series of posts as mafia than as town? I guess I just don't get it. Don't misunderstand, I don't think scott31337's posts make any sense, but I don't think they make sense in a mafia way, more just a general illogical way. I think you are right. I was reading a few games from him mafia and town. He were making small bs in town games as well but also the games I was reading were old. He should not be a d1 vote in my opinion On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote: Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k It reads like it could be mafia protecting someone for now but setting up to lynch them later. Not a very good reason, unfortunately I'm running out of sensible mafia reads, so there's some POE here, as much as I hate POE. Hopefully seeing more gameplay, when die_meatbaby has more time, will clear this up, but I think this is a direction I'm inclined to at least look into.
I do think sandroba could absolutely be mafia, I don't have meaningful reasons to say he's mafia but at the same time I don't have meaningful reasons to say he's town. Maybe another area to look into?
I like Mocsta's posts but I also have trouble understanding like a third or a quarter of them so maybe I'm just being bad in liking them?
I guess I'm most interested in looking at die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, and sandroba, but it kinda feels like most people are in a similar, "meh" tier, so that isn't that helpful.
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There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)
rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more.
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On June 09 2024 14:15 Vivax wrote: The only dangerous thing about me is the truth though. I’ll gladly stuff it into the fauces of those who thought to exploit me during my period of biggest weakness.
With blackmail and extortion. Fuck me I guess I am not related to Austrian apparataschicks. Fuck me I guess I have to pay for criminal government to do a service to me but they still won’t.
Don't you have any outs? any options?
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On June 09 2024 14:19 Koshi wrote: Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I was chosen to waste an entire day seeing other people vote but as always they overbooked and I was let GOOOOoooooll
I miss you Koshi. Let's talk tomorrow.
<3
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On June 09 2024 14:24 Koshi wrote: lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off.
This is something only town says. Fuck Austria and fuck the rednecks as well.
But Koshi town anyways
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On June 09 2024 14:27 Koshi wrote: There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)
rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more. Guess that means you are mafia
In all seriousness though, raynpelikoneet not having any real scumreads doesn't bother you?
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On June 09 2024 14:28 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 14:19 Koshi wrote: Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I was chosen to waste an entire day seeing other people vote but as always they overbooked and I was let GOOOOoooooll I miss you Koshi. Let's talk tomorrow. <3 <3
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Maybe I haven’t been outrageous enough, so I’ll repeat myself.
The age of consent here is 13
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And if it isn’t, they’ll strip your abuser of everything then leave you with nothing.
Felix Austria
Country of robbers
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On June 09 2024 14:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 14:27 Koshi wrote: There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)
rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more. Guess that means you are mafia In all seriousness though, raynpelikoneet not having any real scumreads doesn't bother you? I am on page 24 and I like rayn. Liked the rsoultin read so much I wanted to sheep it.
The only bothersome thing is that I normally dont like him when we are both town. I still havent figured out why.
But maybe this is one of these rare occasions we will vibe as town.
Blah marv has 9 pages of filter. Dafuq is that. I was expecting 4.
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Ok. We can kill sandroba first. Good stuff. That will be easy and then you will trust me enough to go get marv and mocsta.
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Ok dmb can be worked with. Good.
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