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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2024 03:25 GMT
#1361
On June 09 2024 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:17 Vivax wrote:
With the Kelsier flip and if he‘s town, Scott starts becoming useful to mafia.


Of course he is now usefull for mafia... still easy lynch material
I am pretty sure we had t vs t lynch today.
Thats a reason why he will not get nk tonight.
But why do oats think that he wouldn´t get nk?
because im going to jailkeep him

Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:25 GMT
#1362
On June 09 2024 12:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:13 Vivax wrote:
The flip doesn‘t automatically make Scott more scummy, if you were town in his situation you‘d understand why, so look at those who think so.
help me out, im being dumb dumb

the only reason i can see is this from marv
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?page=66#1302

like.. why cant mafia have wagoned kelsier to save scott equally?

i get in marv of rsoultin, he is expecting the most likely answer is double-town wagon; yet, why cannot it not be an effort to save scott equally?


It‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped.

Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2024 03:28 GMT
#1363
On June 09 2024 12:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:17 Vivax wrote:
With the Kelsier flip and if he‘s town, Scott starts becoming useful to mafia.


Of course he is now usefull for mafia... still easy lynch material
I am pretty sure we had t vs t lynch today.
Thats a reason why he will not get nk tonight.
But why do oats think that he wouldn´t get nk?

Why would oats think he would? Let’s not be silly.

Why are you sure scott is town, DMB?


he made smal bs posts in his old town games as well, besides I already learned that in 4 out of 5 cases we have t vs t as lynch 1. He doesn´t have the best townread from me but for right now I think i is probably town
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 03:29 GMT
#1364
On June 09 2024 12:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 11:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 11:53 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 11:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 11:47 marvellosity wrote:
Look if if I’m gonna play a bit drunk can people please try to make sense :p

I don’t really like how alphazero seems to hard hard townread me then get sketched out by me voting for kel especially because it seems like he really agrees with my reads

This is only valid if something more than this comes from it later. So you should probably have sat on that feeling

I’m not getting night killed

?

What?

why are you not getting nk? Are you mafia?

Yes I’m totally mafia and I just slipped that I can’t get night killed of course

who are you mafia buddys?

My dogs
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 03:32 GMT
#1365
On June 09 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:18 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:13 Vivax wrote:
The flip doesn‘t automatically make Scott more scummy, if you were town in his situation you‘d understand why, so look at those who think so.
help me out, im being dumb dumb

the only reason i can see is this from marv
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?page=66#1302

like.. why cant mafia have wagoned kelsier to save scott equally?

i get in marv of rsoultin, he is expecting the most likely answer is double-town wagon; yet, why cannot it not be an effort to save scott equally?


It‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped.

Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough.
i see which feeds into my ongoing concerns with how the kelsi3r train was building

i dont want to blanket discard how d1 unfolded for you; heuristically for me, its really hard to not acknowledge the complexities of having 1/3 of town to barely post for the 24hrs before lynch. it makes it hard for me to then follow your interpretation.

i am in agreement with the other post that there should be options outside of scott tomorrow though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:35 GMT
#1366
On June 09 2024 12:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:18 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:13 Vivax wrote:
The flip doesn‘t automatically make Scott more scummy, if you were town in his situation you‘d understand why, so look at those who think so.
help me out, im being dumb dumb

the only reason i can see is this from marv
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?page=66#1302

like.. why cant mafia have wagoned kelsier to save scott equally?

i get in marv of rsoultin, he is expecting the most likely answer is double-town wagon; yet, why cannot it not be an effort to save scott equally?


It‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped.

Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough.
i see which feeds into my ongoing concerns with how the kelsi3r train was building

i dont want to blanket discard how d1 unfolded for you; heuristically for me, its really hard to not acknowledge the complexities of having 1/3 of town to barely post for the 24hrs before lynch. it makes it hard for me to then follow your interpretation.

i am in agreement with the other post that there should be options outside of scott tomorrow though.


Right ? Wouldn‘t make much sense after a majority decided to spare him.

My next favourite would be the rsoultin slot because theirs was one of the deciding votes.

Not necessarily to lynch but definitely to consider.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 03:36 GMT
#1367
Slam and rsoul were the last two votes on kel, didn’t realize it was that close
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:36 GMT
#1368
Marv mentioning a bookmaker might mean he‘s mafia too, cause mafia without money or shady income would be a really unusual thing to witness.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 03:37 GMT
#1369
Vivax current read on dmb?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 03:39 GMT
#1370
On June 09 2024 09:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Kelsi3r


This was a ninja btw.

I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder.

+ Show Spoiler +
And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me

What bad blunder was this vivax
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 03:39 GMT
#1371
On June 09 2024 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Slam and rsoul were the last two votes on kel, didn’t realize it was that close
mate was super close

literally if rsoul flipped, it would have been even wagon and a chance

On June 09 2024 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
okay baby's up gdit okay i still want a sandy lynch guys i don't like not having time to reevaluate scott before the lynch but i'll go back to kels

and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now
On June 09 2024 10:22 Mocsta wrote:
i still psoitively read you (todays chats were shifting a bit more towards that collaboration i recall you with), just disappointed. with a bit more time i reckon we would have settled on scott

i'm onboard for pressure on koshi ASAP.. in tin-foil world where rsoul/scott are scum, then its going to be a mission to find third for tomorrow.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 03:41 GMT
#1372
On June 09 2024 12:36 Vivax wrote:
Marv mentioning a bookmaker might mean he‘s mafia too, cause mafia without money or shady income would be a really unusual thing to witness.

How do you think we bankroll the nk
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 03:42 GMT
#1373
i cant believe the other inactives havent publicly acknowledged the lynch outcome

where is sandroba!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 03:43 GMT
#1374
Ahh dang
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:44 GMT
#1375
On June 09 2024 12:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:36 Vivax wrote:
Marv mentioning a bookmaker might mean he‘s mafia too, cause mafia without money or shady income would be a really unusual thing to witness.

How do you think we bankroll the nk


Make him addicted to hookers and drugs and the usual. Lowers the price. Might do it for free.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:47 GMT
#1376
I‘ve used the him pronoun. I must be either reverse sexist or wise enough to know no woman would fall for that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 09 2024 03:48 GMT
#1377
On June 09 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:56 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Kelsi3r


This was a ninja btw.

I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder.

+ Show Spoiler +
And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me

What bad blunder was this vivax


If it isn‘t obvious to you then you must be engaged in hate speech.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 03:56 GMT
#1378
On June 09 2024 12:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:56 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Kelsi3r


This was a ninja btw.

I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder.

+ Show Spoiler +
And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me

What bad blunder was this vivax


If it isn‘t obvious to you then you must be engaged in hate speech.

You were wrong about the mocsta thing lmao you have no room
No gg, No skill.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 03:57 GMT
#1379
On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote:
Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience.

Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him.


Sandroba? AZ?

An experienced like rayn/koshi?

Alakaslam?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 03:59 GMT
#1380
On June 09 2024 12:10 Mocsta wrote:
hi scott

can you please respond to the following which is why i voted you
maybe you were looking for mosata and didnt see? ;P


#1 = Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.

Kelsier might have given up as either alignment.
On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:
town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing?
On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:at the risk of answering for viva

if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either

1) try to get the lynch off them
2) shit up the thread

or they just roll over

i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch?

i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around
On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:
salient notion

alphazero - where does that sit with you?
On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:
Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously.


We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened.

Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo.
On June 09 2024 09:12 Mocsta wrote:
i buy into this... there is an effort to convey he is up to date, and sufficiently active; yet this outcome in bold still holds.

rsoultin or anyone else.. would you agree that reads are mostly the same throughout entire d1 for scott?


#2 = so my interaction with az/mocsta i believe should be significant to his world view - yet its not.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that

when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.

my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.

now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.
On June 09 2024 09:45 Mocsta wrote:
[..]
tbc, i am not saying scott should townread az because i changed my read. im saying his relation to me should be significant to create a re-evaluation point, like wtf just happened.
On June 09 2024 09:50 rsoultin wrote:
idk i don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative to not reconsider the person pushing their lynch when others townread them, at least not in a vacuum, unless you have reason to believe that scott in particular would do this as town and not scum?
On June 09 2024 10:01 Mocsta wrote:
pay attention to this summary post.. in his world view:

1. i am town
2. kelsier scum read has relation to me
3. sandroba scum read has extesion to kelsier which extends to me
4. az scum read has relation to me
5. other scum reads are policy: no activity

in short. i matter

so my interaction with az/mocsta i believe should be significant to his world view - yet its not.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 01:04 scott31337 wrote:
My memory isn't the best - but it was more flagging the post then "Scott is mafia with red flags."

Wouldn't lynch order
[..]
Mocsta - I see him as town searching around - he seems to have an accurate read on me.
[..]

Could lynch order:

Kelsi3r - His back and forths with Mocsta was pretty bad when Mocsta seemed genuine to me.
Alakaslam - nothing of value contributed
die_meatbaby - not enough info
sandroba - Stayed on the Mason bandwagon after reading the thread - read of Kelsi3r and others seem bad
AlphaZero - I don't think this is HF. Maybe DP? But seems to be a experienced player shitting up the thread. Hinted at me then went after Mocsta

So I'm unvoting Trfel and voting for Kelsi3r.


to re-inforce: who else does he ask this to? answer no one.. i matter in his world view
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote:
Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta?















I bookmarked and will before D2 I'm too crispy and on substances to ATM
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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