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die_meatbaby
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Vivax
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On June 09 2024 12:18 Mocsta wrote: help me out, im being dumb dumb the only reason i can see is this from marv https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?page=66#1302 like.. why cant mafia have wagoned kelsier to save scott equally? i get in marv of rsoultin, he is expecting the most likely answer is double-town wagon; yet, why cannot it not be an effort to save scott equally? It‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped. Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:24 marvellosity wrote: Why would oats think he would? Let’s not be silly. Why are you sure scott is town, DMB? he made smal bs posts in his old town games as well, besides I already learned that in 4 out of 5 cases we have t vs t as lynch 1. He doesn´t have the best townread from me but for right now I think i is probably town | ||
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Oatsmaster
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My dogs | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote: i see which feeds into my ongoing concerns with how the kelsi3r train was buildingIt‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped. Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough. i dont want to blanket discard how d1 unfolded for you; heuristically for me, its really hard to not acknowledge the complexities of having 1/3 of town to barely post for the 24hrs before lynch. it makes it hard for me to then follow your interpretation. i am in agreement with the other post that there should be options outside of scott tomorrow though. | ||
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Vivax
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On June 09 2024 12:32 Mocsta wrote: i see which feeds into my ongoing concerns with how the kelsi3r train was building i dont want to blanket discard how d1 unfolded for you; heuristically for me, its really hard to not acknowledge the complexities of having 1/3 of town to barely post for the 24hrs before lynch. it makes it hard for me to then follow your interpretation. i am in agreement with the other post that there should be options outside of scott tomorrow though. Right ? Wouldn‘t make much sense after a majority decided to spare him. My next favourite would be the rsoultin slot because theirs was one of the deciding votes. Not necessarily to lynch but definitely to consider. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Vivax
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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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On June 09 2024 09:56 Vivax wrote: This was a ninja btw. I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder. + Show Spoiler + And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me What bad blunder was this vivax | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote: mate was super closeSlam and rsoul were the last two votes on kel, didn’t realize it was that close literally if rsoul flipped, it would have been even wagon and a chance On June 09 2024 10:19 rsoultin wrote: okay baby's up gdit okay i still want a sandy lynch guys i don't like not having time to reevaluate scott before the lynch but i'll go back to kels and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now On June 09 2024 10:22 Mocsta wrote: i still psoitively read you (todays chats were shifting a bit more towards that collaboration i recall you with), just disappointed. with a bit more time i reckon we would have settled on scott  i'm onboard for pressure on koshi ASAP.. in tin-foil world where rsoul/scott are scum, then its going to be a mission to find third for tomorrow. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:36 Vivax wrote: Marv mentioning a bookmaker might mean he‘s mafia too, cause mafia without money or shady income would be a really unusual thing to witness. How do you think we bankroll the nk | ||
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Mocsta
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where is sandroba! | ||
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Trfel
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Vivax
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Make him addicted to hookers and drugs and the usual. Lowers the price. Might do it for free. | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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If it isn‘t obvious to you then you must be engaged in hate speech. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:48 Vivax wrote: If it isn‘t obvious to you then you must be engaged in hate speech. You were wrong about the mocsta thing lmao you have no room | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote: Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience. Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him. Sandroba? AZ? An experienced like rayn/koshi? Alakaslam? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 12:10 Mocsta wrote: hi scott can you please respond to the following which is why i voted you maybe you were looking for mosata and didnt see? ;P #1 = Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote: What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing. Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote: town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote: salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote: Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. On June 09 2024 09:12 Mocsta wrote: i buy into this... there is an effort to convey he is up to date, and sufficiently active; yet this outcome in bold still holds. rsoultin or anyone else.. would you agree that reads are mostly the same throughout entire d1 for scott? #2 = so my interaction with az/mocsta i believe should be significant to his world view - yet its not. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote: one underlying issue i have with scott is that when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town. my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me. now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that. On June 09 2024 09:45 Mocsta wrote: [..] tbc, i am not saying scott should townread az because i changed my read. im saying his relation to me should be significant to create a re-evaluation point, like wtf just happened. On June 09 2024 09:50 rsoultin wrote: idk i don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative to not reconsider the person pushing their lynch when others townread them, at least not in a vacuum, unless you have reason to believe that scott in particular would do this as town and not scum? On June 09 2024 10:01 Mocsta wrote: pay attention to this summary post.. in his world view: 1. i am town 2. kelsier scum read has relation to me 3. sandroba scum read has extesion to kelsier which extends to me 4. az scum read has relation to me 5. other scum reads are policy: no activity in short. i matter so my interaction with az/mocsta i believe should be significant to his world view - yet its not. to re-inforce: who else does he ask this to? answer no one.. i matter in his world view I bookmarked and will before D2 I'm too crispy and on substances to ATM | ||
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