Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 71

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:15 GMT

#1401

The only dangerous thing about me is the truth though.
I’ll gladly stuff it into the fauces of those who thought to exploit me during my period of biggest weakness.

With blackmail and extortion. Fuck me I guess I am not related to Austrian apparataschicks. Fuck me I guess I have to pay for criminal government to do a service to me but they still won’t.

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:17 GMT

#1402

Schwab just like the sticks you used to put up your ass if the need was given.

What a negative example of a human being.
Loweat tier.

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:18 GMT

#1403

Real estate and crooked cops best shit ever

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:19 GMT

#1404

Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I was chosen to waste an entire day seeing other people vote but as always they overbooked and I was let GOOOOoooooll

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:20 GMT

#1405

Fuck. So lucky. 5 people actually wanted to do that. Jeez. Crazy.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:21 GMT

#1406

So marv, sandroba and mocsta are mafia and I replaced somebody with a huge filter so kinda confirmed town.

Good stuff. Today will be great.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:23 GMT

#1407

I'll start woth saying Kelsier was obvious town. Why would mafia be so obtuse and angry in the start. That guy did not want to blend in.

Oh well.

Oh and I read till page 24.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:24 GMT

#1408

lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off.

Trfel

7015 Posts

June 09 2024 05:25 GMT

#1409

On June 09 2024 13:24 Trfel wrote:
If scott31337 is town, I guess I don't understand why this makes rsoultin/Koshi mafia?

Imagine if the situation was reversed and we lynched scott31337 and (imagine) he flipped town, would this make AlphaZero mafia?

I'm really not understanding this.

I guess I could maybe understand this if your view is that scott31337 is objectively way way scummier than Kelsi3r was and that this looks like it for everyone, no matter what. In that case, sure I could see rsoultin's town lean on scott31337 being TMI and AlphaZero's null read on Kelsi3r not being TMI. But that seems like a huge stretch.

Like if you see it that way that's one thing, but to insist that everyone has to? I mean I don't see it that way, so that immediately disproves it? Unless you think that I (and only I) am an idiot, which is true but this whole thing still feels like a stretch to me.

Not really thinking scott31337 is mafia. Could be wrong, part of me wonders if it's best to just let him die to the "holy" crusade, but that feels so bad.... Will try and think more about it later.

Really confused about raynpelikoneet. Is he mafia in hyper buddy mode or something? I never would have thought it possible for raynpelikoneet to go five pages without an actual scumread, regardless of alignment, and I don't know what this means? My best guess is to rely on the prior townread due to his reads being interesting, but I can't discount the possibility that he is mafia and went super buddy mode. But it's like, why would he do that when he could just play normally if he is mafia? Seems more reasonable that he somehow didn't see anything that really stuck out as scummy or worth pushing, and then wasn't available to find anything during the second half of day 1.

Still really confused by Oatsmaster. Maybe he's just town because memory says that when he's obnoxious and useless he's town, but it's really really hard for me to get past how obnoxious some of his play has been. I'm not sure if I can just let this drop. Even if maybe I should.

He's going to ask me to provide quotes and examples and I'm going to ignore him.

I think AlphaZero is unlikely to be mafia just due to the amount of investment at the lynch. Sure, he could theoretically be mafia and making all this fuss for no reason, but the key is that there'd be no reason.

Idk, marvellosity is playing the game, which usually means he is town. If it wasn't for him typically not playing the game as mafia though, would I think he is town? Maybe I just stick with the funny read/metric, it feels pretty tinfoily here to think marvellosity is mafia, I guess that ought to be good enough for now.

Honestly I'm kinda disappointed in Vivax, I was expecting some amazing insight and it ended up just being a misunderstanding

Such a let down. A simple activity metric suggests that Vivax is town, but his activity isn't out of the realm of possibility as mafia, just unlikely. I'm having trouble finding anything notable in his filter (to be fair I'm just randomly opening pages and skimming which probably isn't the best method) but part of me is concerned that he seemed fine lynching Kelsi3r, seemed fine lynching scott31337, and then comes up with this?

On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote:
Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience.

Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him.

Vivax wanted scott31337 lynched I assume, I mean Vivax was voting for scott31337, so why is Vivax saying this instead of looking to make sure scott31337 actually gets lynched? Even from the perspective of purely an observation and not a desire it doesn't sit right to me.

Part of me wonders if die_meatbaby is mafia? No real reason, I do feel a bit weird about her posts on not really wanting to lynch scott31337:

On June 08 2024 09:42 die_meatbaby wrote:

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On June 08 2024 09:37 Trfel wrote:

On June 08 2024 09:12 marvellosity wrote:

On June 08 2024 09:10 Trfel wrote:
Not really sure what to say.

I don't know what to think of scott31337, he looks suspicious but I feel like I've mislynched him a million times and I'm not sure if this game is any different

I was trying to mess with him to change something and let me get a read on him but it didn't really work. Maybe I should see if the discrepancies in his posts are mafia motivated? I guess that makes sense?

Idon't think the early thing about masons/whisperers/whatever had much mafia motivation. It's clumsy, but honestly it strikes me more as clumsy than scummy.

I actually kinda liked scott31337's post on AlphaZero. Not that I agree with it, but I think it's a reasonable perspective for scott31337 to have as town? I don't know why he would do this as mafia, I guess I doubt he'd have the confidence? I could definitely be wrong, but like, scott31337 brought up an original argument. That's pretty neat. Even if it's (imo) a bad argument, I'm still pleasantly surprised

So yeah, I kinda don't want to lynch scott31337. Could absolutely be wrong, it's far from the worst lynch ever, but I don't find the arguments super compelling given the context.

Don't really want to lynch sandroba either unless something changes, either in his play or in my read. His play hasn't been super inspiring or anything imo, but I don't think that makes him mafia. Maybe if we keep waiting and this doesn't change I could start to see it but we haven't even been playing for 24 hours, I don't think it's reasonable to hold him to super high standards at this time. If he did something scummy that'd be different, but a lack of super towny stuff doesn't make him mafia imo.

I guess I'll just wait and hope that either people re-evaluate Kelsi3r or I'm wrong (which is pretty likely tbh, I have no idea how to find mafia on day 1 especially, my reads tend to be more accurate when flipped upside down). So maybe it's a good thing that no one agrees XD

Or clumsy in a scummy way

Theoretically yes, but that's not how I read it.

I guess I don't put much weight in the idea that scum say little things to look like they're present without actually doing anything. Or rather, I think town ends up with similar posts pretty often, especially at the start of the game. It's just hard for me to say with any confidence that this is a scum trait. Maybe for strong town players it could be scummy, but I see this from less confident town players all the time.

I also don't think that the way scott31337 posted came from a mafia motivated mindset. Like, why would scott31337 be more inclined to make that series of posts as mafia than as town? I guess I just don't get it. Don't misunderstand, I don't think scott31337's posts make any sense, but I don't think they make sense in a mafia way, more just a general illogical way.

I think you are right.
I was reading a few games from him mafia and town.
He were making small bs in town games as well but also the games I was reading were old.
He should not be a d1 vote in my opinion

On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:

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Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway.

I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone.

Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here

##vote k

It reads like it could be mafia protecting someone for now but setting up to lynch them later. Not a very good reason, unfortunately I'm running out of sensible mafia reads, so there's some POE here, as much as I hate POE. Hopefully seeing more gameplay, when die_meatbaby has more time, will clear this up, but I think this is a direction I'm inclined to at least look into.

I do think sandroba could absolutely be mafia, I don't have meaningful reasons to say he's mafia but at the same time I don't have meaningful reasons to say he's town. Maybe another area to look into?

I like Mocsta's posts but I also have trouble understanding like a third or a quarter of them so maybe I'm just being bad in liking them?

I guess I'm most interested in looking at die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, and sandroba, but it kinda feels like most people are in a similar, "meh" tier, so that isn't that helpful.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:27 GMT

#1410

There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)

rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 09 2024 05:27 GMT

#1411

On June 09 2024 14:15 Vivax wrote:
The only dangerous thing about me is the truth though.
I’ll gladly stuff it into the fauces of those who thought to exploit me during my period of biggest weakness.

With blackmail and extortion. Fuck me I guess I am not related to Austrian apparataschicks. Fuck me I guess I have to pay for criminal government to do a service to me but they still won’t.

Don't you have any outs? any options?

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 09 2024 05:28 GMT

#1412

On June 09 2024 14:19 Koshi wrote:
Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I was chosen to waste an entire day seeing other people vote but as always they overbooked and I was let GOOOOoooooll

I miss you Koshi.
Let's talk tomorrow.

<3

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:28 GMT

#1413

On June 09 2024 14:24 Koshi wrote:
lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off.

This is something only town says.
Fuck Austria and fuck the rednecks as well.

But Koshi town anyways

Trfel

7015 Posts

June 09 2024 05:29 GMT

#1414

On June 09 2024 14:27 Koshi wrote:
There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)

rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more.

Guess that means you are mafia

In all seriousness though, raynpelikoneet not having any real scumreads doesn't bother you?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:31 GMT

#1415

On June 09 2024 14:28 scott31337 wrote:

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I miss you Koshi.
Let's talk tomorrow.

<3

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:31 GMT

#1416

Maybe I haven’t been outrageous enough, so I’ll repeat myself.

The age of consent here is 13

Vivax

22389 Posts

June 09 2024 05:33 GMT

#1417

And if it isn’t, they’ll strip your abuser of everything then leave you with nothing.

Felix Austria

Country of robbers

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

June 09 2024 05:34 GMT

#1418

On June 09 2024 14:29 Trfel wrote:

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Guess that means you are mafia

In all seriousness though, raynpelikoneet not having any real scumreads doesn't bother you?

I am on page 24 and I like rayn. Liked the rsoultin read so much I wanted to sheep it.

The only bothersome thing is that I normally dont like him when we are both town. I still havent figured out why.

But maybe this is one of these rare occasions we will vibe as town.

Blah marv has 9 pages of filter. Dafuq is that. I was expecting 4.