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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:36 Koshi wrote: Haha, the person playing changes but nothing really changes Ok. We can kill sandroba first. Good stuff. That will be easy and then you will trust me enough to go get marv and mocsta.  | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:36 Koshi wrote: Ok. We can kill sandroba first. Good stuff. That will be easy and then you will trust me enough to go get marv and mocsta. When you lay out this much truth you will be shot tonight. So lay it all out before you are dead. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:38 scott31337 wrote: When you lay out this much truth you will be shot tonight. So lay it all out before you are dead. ❤ How much talk was there to not lynch you or Kelsier yesterday? Who wanted to go outside you 2? | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:38 scott31337 wrote: When you lay out this much truth you will be shot tonight. So lay it all out before you are dead. At least he’d have died for something. Imagine someone’s last words being fuck this piece of shit greedy and human research rights violating chauvinist country of stupid wannabe corrupt narcos country. That must’ve been something. Or maybe it’s just failed Europe | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:42 Koshi wrote: Rsoultin wanted to lynch sandroba, a few people talked about wanting to lynch AlphaZero or raynpelikoneet but nothing else gained much traction.❤ How much talk was there to not lynch you or Kelsier yesterday? Who wanted to go outside you 2? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:43 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin wanted to lynch sandroba, a few people talked about wanting to lynch AlphaZero or raynpelikoneet but nothing else gained much traction. Jeez I replaced the only smart person. | ||
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Trfel
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:46 Trfel wrote: You two working together would have been too unstoppable I guess Want to talk Mocsta? Does it feel he is a townie being lost at times and just making noise? Or what do you think? | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:49 Koshi wrote: Vivax, you should accept that we live in a simulation. Most of us are vessals for beings that need to learn the emotions that we feel. Just accept that and let them learn while you enjoy yor life. Soothe my rage then because it is proprtion to its growth. Which means it isn’t working as intended | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:51 Koshi wrote: Uh....Want to talk Mocsta? Does it feel he is a townie being lost at times and just making noise? Or what do you think? Like I said, I have been having a hard time understanding what Mocsta is getting at probably at least a quarter of the time. Which is kind of a lot. Even when I don't agree with what he is saying, I think the angles he is taking makes him look towny, which makes me inclined to let him do his thing instead of pestering him constantly to explain what he is saying? I just skimmed through his filter and don't really have a reason to suspect him tbh, Actually, I guess he was the person with the mini-case on AlphaZero, and then he ended up voting alongside AlphaZero on scott31337 right? It's possible that Mocsta's read on AlphaZero changed, he seems to say this happened at some points, but at a skim I can't actually find this happening though it's more likely I'm just not seeing it. Lot of words to say I think Mocsta is more likely town? Mostly because idk what makes him mafia. But if you have reasons for him to be mafia, please go ahead. | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On June 09 2024 14:56 Vivax wrote: Soothe my rage then because it is proprtion to its growth. Which means it isn’t working as intended At least if I lived in Nk, they’d let you know it‘s Nk. When you‘re in shit ass redneck Austria, you‘ll have to figure it out | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 08 2024 18:39 Mocsta wrote: didn't realize I was known for strong stuff My perception of kelsi3r is mostly unchanged even with all players now posting. My consideration is exactly as drafted. The build smells to me like mafia are happy with this course of action. Maybe you don't play with those factors?? It is something I give a weighting towards I mean I get it's a shit defense mafia can easily throw out. But dude my mafia game is not about being 180 out of sync with dominant players. I don't really know what else I can tell you? Mafia practically begging mafia partner to stop the interaction. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 08 2024 19:20 marvellosity wrote: Well, it does for me if it helps me draw conclusions about your alignment… But yes, I have nothing further to say about it now | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote: Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions - it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments - it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia. - his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical. the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment. - option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda -option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things. I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia. It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely. I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 08 2024 19:58 marvellosity wrote: I think this is a nigh on perfect summary. Well done | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1) does not call mocsta mafia in that echange and let's him go. 2) agrees with AZ mocsta is likely mafia. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Which means it's probably time to start from scratch. Ignoring reasons that might make people town, because that leads to POE, only looking at why people could be mafia. Oatsmaster: feels like he's intentionally trying to annoy people and disrupt the game rsoultin/Koshi: no real reason? scott31337: Just read AlphaZero's filter I guess? die_meatbaby: twice, die_meatbaby said that she didn't want to lynch scott31337 at this time but left the door wide open for lynching scott31337 in the future Alakaslam: no real reason, but unlike the rsoultin/Koshi slot, this is a no real reason but kinda want to lynch (or at least push) raynpelikoneet: no serious scumreads sandroba: low activity/involvement, very uninspired marvellosity: there may be something in his tension over the deadline? He seems so so unhappy with the state of the game, but also didn't really do much about it. Granted, with a ton of people not being present and with him being drunk there may not have been much to do about it, but I'm trying to come up with reasons that make people mafia, regardless of how valid they are (for now)? That said, this reason is particularly poor, there isn't a ton of need for mafia to be so unhappy with the lynch sitting solidly on a townie.. but moreso, why would mafia!marvellosity be so unhappy about town!Kelsier being lynched but also not actually do anything about it? Feels like such a stretch.Mocsta: no real reason? Maybe that Mocsta suspected AlphaZero and then later voted scott31337 with AlphaZero, but it looks like Mocsta's read on AlphaZero changed in the meantime even though I can't find the post(s) indicating this while skimming. Vivax: Voted for scott31337, seemingly thought scott31337 was mafia, but then posts this and this? If he didn't think scott31337 was mafia, why would he vote for him? If he did think scott31337 is mafia, why would he change his mind because Kelsi3r flipped town? AlphaZero: really really stubborn on scott31337? I actually think sandroba comes out looking the worst. Vivax, Alakaslam, and die_meatbaby are possible as well. | ||
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