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darklycid

3321 Posts

June 02 2024 21:14 GMT

#721

How the fuck is maru just randomly dying to anything serral does, really feels like a mental block at this point.

Nasigil1

91 Posts

June 02 2024 21:14 GMT

#722

Come on Maru I expected better than this.

Captain Peabody

United States3088 Posts

June 02 2024 21:14 GMT

#723

come on Maru at least make it a little hard for him

Argonauta

Spain4900 Posts

June 02 2024 21:14 GMT

#724

Maru play so sloppy is just sad to see

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40186 Posts

June 02 2024 21:14 GMT

#725

This is getting more embarrassing than MarineKing v Mvp back in the day.

dysenterymd

1150 Posts

June 02 2024 21:15 GMT

#726

Great mind game, Serral thought that Maru would chill and go for late game because Ghost River is great for split map, so insane greed on a tiny map worked?

JJH777

United States4372 Posts

June 02 2024 21:15 GMT

#727

Feels like Serral can just do whatever he wants vs Maru.. makes no sense. Maru is the best Terran vs every other Zerg but does worse than other Terrans vs Serral.

TheLordofAwesome

Korea (South)2614 Posts

June 02 2024 21:15 GMT

#728

Maru ends up at 160ish supply of pure marine tank vs a maxed army from Serral in both of these games, and just loses.

Captain Peabody

United States3088 Posts

June 02 2024 21:16 GMT

#729

time to 8 rax for four straight games Maru?????

Gantz023

27 Posts

June 02 2024 21:16 GMT

#730

bring oliveira to the final... to make it interesting... hope Maru do something .....

Argonauta

Spain4900 Posts

June 02 2024 21:16 GMT

#731

On June 03 2024 06:15 dysenterymd wrote:
Great mind game, Serral thought that Maru would chill and go for late game because Ghost River is great for split map, so insane greed on a tiny map worked?

At this point Serral can go pee in the middle of the map because Maru will crumble as soon as Serral looks at him

darklycid

3321 Posts

June 02 2024 21:16 GMT

#732

I mean we just had oliveira almost taking serral out and vs maru it looks like random ladder game wins.

tigera6

3165 Posts

June 02 2024 21:17 GMT

#733

Maru keep doing insane macro build with lots of building and CC, but cutting army production and tech is just plain stupid. Who told him Serral would let him get up to full 5 bases mining and techout?

watchlulu

Germany470 Posts

June 02 2024 21:17 GMT

#734

On June 03 2024 06:16 Captain Peabody wrote:
time to 8 rax for four straight games Maru?????

Five, if Serral manages to win one :D

LukaMav

28 Posts

June 02 2024 21:18 GMT

#735

On June 03 2024 06:13 Captain Peabody wrote:
lol why does Maru look so weak vs Serral??????

Anyone can look good playing against a weaker competition

One can only judge themselves once they face Serral

To be fair Korean zvt is quite weak (shin and solar are the usual stomping practice partners for the terrans)

Durnuu

13315 Posts

June 02 2024 21:18 GMT

#736

Maru should switch to zerg, he'd stand a better chance

Perceivere

131 Posts

June 02 2024 21:19 GMT

#737

On June 03 2024 06:04 Charoisaur wrote:

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On June 03 2024 05:53 Perceivere wrote:

On June 03 2024 05:40 Charoisaur wrote:

On June 03 2024 05:20 Nasigil1 wrote:

On June 03 2024 05:06 dysenterymd wrote:

On June 03 2024 05:05 Pandain wrote:
It's crazy how much better Serral/Maru are than everyone else right now, although Olli put up an absolute hell of a tournament

If everyone peaks at ESWC (big if) it could be super exciting, Serral/Maru/Clem/Reynor/herO/Dark/Oliverira all playing at their best could make for one of the best tournaments ever.

I will always hold the opinion that, even if the whole pro scene of sc2 is a shell of its past glory, the top level players (Serral/Maru/herO/Clem/and probably Oliveira when he's on fire like this) are better than anyone in the history. Drop them back into KeSPA days via time machine and give them some time to adapt to the meta and they will crush everybody.

Winning a tournament is still an big achievement today because you still have to go through all these monsters.

On the other hand Dark for example is definitely playing more sloppy and makes more mistakes than his 2019 version, but he's still probably a top 5 player. Maru and Serral may indeed have reached a skill level no one before has, but the rest of the player field is weaker imo, both in absolute and relative skill.

This is so profoundly wrong. Jesus Christ. The current era has players with APMs and eAPMs that the pre-2016 boys could only dream of. Back then when good splits happened, they were repeatedly highlighted as epic micro. Today, those splits are standard. Clem is splitting/microing his marines while macroing, even, which is stupidly hard and insane to even try to pull off. Levels of creep spread are miles apart, and it's harder to spread creep today than back then. Players have invented, and perfected so many strategies and builds. I don't think you've been going back to watch the old games, dude. Those guys were so much slower in comparison. Today's top players are doing multitasking that observers sometimes have a hard time keeping up with. That didn't use to happen.

If anyone thinks Jinro, early Scarlett, and Stephano had anything on today's top 4 Europeans, minus Serral, they are pretty ignorant...and Jinro and Scarlett both had deep runs in GSL.

I'm honestly amazed that you put this much effort into replying to a post you didn't even read

"Maru and Serral may indeed have reached a skill level no one before has, but the rest of the player field is weaker imo, both in absolute and relative skill."

I was obviously replying to this assertion. The rest of the field has definitely gotten better, Dark included, even if he doesn't think so. Are you going to keep pretending I can't read, or will you actually have something that isn't blatantly clueless to add?

Sent.

Poland9060 Posts

June 02 2024 21:19 GMT

#738

Maru needs a tactical pause