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Northern Ireland22770 Posts
On February 24 2024 02:55 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2024 20:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Some of the best BW has come in the Sonic-ASL era. If GSL does end, I hope it can find a similar story and continue to live on. One can dream but for Korean SC2, I doubt it. There's fewer than 20 pro players left; a handful of those are barely active and about half of the remainder (including most of the top players) are going to head to the military in the next year or two. And frankly, what new military returners are going to fill out that hole with the current state of affairs? The international/global scene definitely still has some good years left in it, assuming premier tournaments like EPT and WTL continue. And that more players won't switch to Stormgate but from what I've seen so far, that doesn't look like the biggest risk at the moment. Show nested quote +On February 23 2024 21:44 WombaT wrote:
It can’t only be me who finds it a bit incongruous that the Saudi money threw enough at a fun legends show match to fund a seasonal prize pool for the GSL can it? They seem to favour a strategy of setting up their own events, especially in Riyadh, to really maximize that (e)sportswashing visibility
Indeed.
My personal take is that StarCraft is only there until (if) this whole venture gets established. Provides some old school prestige and goodwill while it gets off the ground. There’s still a decent following at present and you can trace its lineage via its predecessor right back to the beginning of eSports as we know it, WCG and all that other fun stuff.
Beyond that it makes little sense to me to invest in a flagship tournament for an ever-declining game, without investing in addressing that decline.
Hey, call me a cynic, many have!
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On February 25 2024 23:58 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2024 02:55 Zzzapper wrote:On February 23 2024 20:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Some of the best BW has come in the Sonic-ASL era. If GSL does end, I hope it can find a similar story and continue to live on. One can dream but for Korean SC2, I doubt it. There's fewer than 20 pro players left; a handful of those are barely active and about half of the remainder (including most of the top players) are going to head to the military in the next year or two. And frankly, what new military returners are going to fill out that hole with the current state of affairs? The international/global scene definitely still has some good years left in it, assuming premier tournaments like EPT and WTL continue. And that more players won't switch to Stormgate but from what I've seen so far, that doesn't look like the biggest risk at the moment. On February 23 2024 21:44 WombaT wrote:
It can’t only be me who finds it a bit incongruous that the Saudi money threw enough at a fun legends show match to fund a seasonal prize pool for the GSL can it? They seem to favour a strategy of setting up their own events, especially in Riyadh, to really maximize that (e)sportswashing visibility Indeed. My personal take is that StarCraft is only there until (if) this whole venture gets established. Provides some old school prestige and goodwill while it gets off the ground. There’s still a decent following at present and you can trace its lineage via its predecessor right back to the beginning of eSports as we know it, WCG and all that other fun stuff. Beyond that it makes little sense to me to invest in a flagship tournament for an ever-declining game, without investing in addressing that decline. Hey, call me a cynic, many have!
That's fine, I think a lot of people have been , and will be cynic, I mean how long have we heard the term DEAD GAME since brood war days, hahahaha
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Bisutopia19137 Posts
On February 26 2024 01:56 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2024 23:58 WombaT wrote:On February 24 2024 02:55 Zzzapper wrote:On February 23 2024 20:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Some of the best BW has come in the Sonic-ASL era. If GSL does end, I hope it can find a similar story and continue to live on. One can dream but for Korean SC2, I doubt it. There's fewer than 20 pro players left; a handful of those are barely active and about half of the remainder (including most of the top players) are going to head to the military in the next year or two. And frankly, what new military returners are going to fill out that hole with the current state of affairs? The international/global scene definitely still has some good years left in it, assuming premier tournaments like EPT and WTL continue. And that more players won't switch to Stormgate but from what I've seen so far, that doesn't look like the biggest risk at the moment. On February 23 2024 21:44 WombaT wrote:
It can’t only be me who finds it a bit incongruous that the Saudi money threw enough at a fun legends show match to fund a seasonal prize pool for the GSL can it? They seem to favour a strategy of setting up their own events, especially in Riyadh, to really maximize that (e)sportswashing visibility Indeed. My personal take is that StarCraft is only there until (if) this whole venture gets established. Provides some old school prestige and goodwill while it gets off the ground. There’s still a decent following at present and you can trace its lineage via its predecessor right back to the beginning of eSports as we know it, WCG and all that other fun stuff. Beyond that it makes little sense to me to invest in a flagship tournament for an ever-declining game, without investing in addressing that decline. Hey, call me a cynic, many have! That's fine, I think a lot of people have been , and will be cynic, I mean how long have we heard the term DEAD GAME since brood war days, hahahaha
Time for a sequel to this blog https://tl.net/blogs/433721-saving-sc2
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On February 25 2024 14:41 outscar wrote:
3K $ prize for first place is too low and embarassing, doesn't respect players time, at this point it's much, MUCH profitable for pros to work on normal jobs than to practice for GSL. Farewell!
To be fair the crowd funding will make the prize money higher, just like last year
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On February 26 2024 05:39 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2024 14:41 outscar wrote:
3K $ prize for first place is too low and embarassing, doesn't respect players time, at this point it's much, MUCH profitable for pros to work on normal jobs than to practice for GSL. Farewell! To be fair the crowd funding will make the prize money higher, just like last year
Instead of paying employee which can improve SC2.....sick
I can't help but think that it's the opposite that we should do, because mainly money comes from advertising
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No one to blame except KR themselves
If you look back at GSL prize pool during the earlier days.
First place was 45K,
3rd-4th place was only $4500
Basically everyone else was fighting for crumbs
Whoever decided on that was such an idiot
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Poland3746 Posts
This might make space for Korean Stormgate League or whatever. Unless everyone will go back to SC:R which is what Artosis was hinting at for months.
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Activision Blizzard is so idiot that they prefer give up galaxy editor and sc2 engine in developping a new type of game in the universe of starcraft... If it s the case, they can already give us the reins. I would be happy to play competitive mod with ladder in a decent engine.
Because their man goal is to make money with the licence
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EPT
