EPTI hope there weren't too many civilians around.
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 14
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9136 Posts
I hope there weren't too many civilians around. | ||
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streets-ahead
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Sent.
Poland9070 Posts
On March 02 2022 05:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Thank you. I honestly don't know what the EU is going to do. I know the US isn't going to be caught engaging militarily with Russia, but if the EU doesn't act soon...A no-fly zone is the least it can do but there's so much...I don't know. I hope you and yours (all of Ukraine really) make it through this. We wouldn't be sending Ukraine our jets if joining the war on their side was considered. Admittedly the plane deal is only a rumor, but it's still way more likely than some European countries deciding to fight Russia without Washington's blessing. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
I dont see a no-fly zone being enforced by eu/nato countries any time soon. Sending soldiers/planes into ukraine would be be new level of escalation, and to me the eu policy seems to very clear in that it intentionally avoids any direct military involvement. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
ANKARA, March 1 (Reuters) - Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said on Tuesday that Ukrainian and Russian delegations were unlikely to meet for planned talks on Wednesday, adding Moscow's demands to end its invasion were "unrealistic". "They will most likely not meet (on Wednesday)," Kalin told broadcaster CNN Turk. "It will most likely be postponed a couple of days, we are in touch with the negotiating teams," he said, adding he hoped Russian President Vladimir Putin would end the assault by realising the economic damage it causes to Russia. Source | ||
KwarK
United States41589 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania8965 Posts
On March 02 2022 06:14 KwarK wrote: The agreed upon escalatory line seems to be physically pulling a trigger and the trigger being pulled in Ukraine. We can make a gun, load it, and aim it but we insist upon a Ukrainian pulling the trigger while standing on Ukrainian soil. It’s a bit arbitrary but that seems to be the line. Taking the bet that people around Putin aren't willing to pulverize themselves, their families and the species to protect his naked ego is looking increasingly alluring by the hour. | ||
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farvacola
United States18813 Posts
On March 02 2022 06:19 Dan HH wrote: Taking the bet that people around Putin aren't willing to pulverize themselves, their families and the species to protect his naked ego is looking increasingly alluring by the hour. I agree, and if taking that bet wins the day, we'll have the incredible perseverance of the Ukrainian people and leadership to thank for it. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36900 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32024 Posts
On March 02 2022 01:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote: How many people died? I recall when the World Trade Centers collapsed the initial casualty #s were grossly inflated. It'll be interesting to see if the same thing happens in this case. User was temp banned for this post. damn, maybe someone can grossly inflate this to a permanent ban considering his reign of stupidity has been going on for about a decade now and has now ventured into shitposting about an invasion On March 02 2022 04:43 Dav1oN wrote: I really hope you and your family are safe. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1941 Posts
"Plagued by poor morale as well as fuel and food shortages, some Russian troops in Ukraine have surrendered en masse or sabotaged their own vehicles to avoid fighting" So, maybe some good news, especially if this is true and the trend continues. This is from New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/01/world/ukraine-russia-war#some-russian-troops-are-surrendering-or-sabotaging-vehicles-rather-than-fight-a-pentagon-official-says) I was linked to it from the 2022 Russian Invasion of Ukraine Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#1_March | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12125 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
8834 Posts
On March 02 2022 07:01 deacon.frost wrote: I just wish west would be so decisive about other wars too. When Saudis intervene in Yemen, civilians were dying left and right and I didn't notice such big response. To be fair, some countries even sold them weapons. Something about bedfellows and the like. The world isn't as black and white as it used to be. I don't agree with 90% of US/West diplomacy, sure, but there are aggravating existing circumstances that cannot be encroached upon. Sadly, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is one of those that needs to be encroached. I'm hoping Ukraine holds long enough to force serious peace talks and a ceasefire. But if this week goes by and Russia isn't at the table with something credible and serious, then WW3 it is. Ukraine won't last past this week as it is now. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 02 2022 06:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Talks unlikely to happen tomorrow due to unrealistic demands by Russia. Source Seems like there won't be a Russian market opening Wednesday then either. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21196 Posts
On March 02 2022 07:01 deacon.frost wrote: distance is always a major part in the willingness for nations to intervene.I just wish west would be so decisive about other wars too. When Saudis intervene in Yemen, civilians were dying left and right and I didn't notice such big response. To be fair, some countries even sold them weapons. In a perfect world we would work to prevent all wars everywhere. In reality most don't care about people half a world away killing other people half a world away. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23057 Posts
On March 02 2022 07:57 Gorsameth wrote: distance is always a major part in the willingness for nations to intervene. In a perfect world we would work to prevent all wars everywhere. In reality most don't care about people half a world away killing other people half a world away. I think many care but, given the distance there’s never that impetus to spill over to sufficiently change policy. Care in a ‘that sucks, now back to my day way’. Whereas Ukraine is well, in our orbit. I’ve met Ukrainians, including the legendary White-Ra. This is occurring next door to Eastern European nations, hell we have posters on TL whose safety we’re worrying about in the war zone. Ukrainian and Russian teams play in our European football competitions. I’ll concede I don’t know much about Yemen, I’ve never spoken to someone from there. It’s also awful but the Ukrainian scenario is both closer geographically, but also our cultural exposure is that much more. All human life being sacred is one thing, but in a crude sense there’s that extra pull because these are people who live very similar lives to ours too. I mean I was at the Iraq war protests, iirc there were a fuckton of people all over the U.K. out, we went in anyway. Or there’s been a pretty consistent pro-Palestinean movement since forever. Added to that I mean, the West has shown the many pitfalls of it playing the world’s police. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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