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On February 24 2022 09:43 Archeon wrote: I think the Mistborn trilogy and his first major book Elantris are both good starting points.
I tend to disagree. Elantris to me was one of his worst books and frankly hard to get though because it felt so slow. I would start with Mistborn 1-3 and then possibly Stormlight Archives 1.
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On February 24 2022 06:51 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2022 05:03 Jerubaal wrote: So what's a good Sanderson series to start with?
I noticed Pratchett's Discworld was on the list. I think Pratchett is a great writer and his books are very entertaining, but, jeez louise, his glibness starts to wear on you after a while. That's the sort of self-referentiality I'm looking to avoid. Mistborn trilogy.
Can absolutely second that. Mistborn is a must read if you are a fantasy fan. EDIT: I didn't really get warm with Elantris but Stormligt archives is pretty good as well
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On February 24 2022 05:03 Jerubaal wrote: So what's a good Sanderson series to start with?
I noticed Pratchett's Discworld was on the list. I think Pratchett is a great writer and his books are very entertaining, but, jeez louise, his glibness starts to wear on you after a while. That's the sort of self-referentiality I'm looking to avoid. I agree with others that Mistborn Trilogy is the best introduction for the authors works
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On February 24 2022 18:36 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2022 05:03 Jerubaal wrote: So what's a good Sanderson series to start with?
I noticed Pratchett's Discworld was on the list. I think Pratchett is a great writer and his books are very entertaining, but, jeez louise, his glibness starts to wear on you after a while. That's the sort of self-referentiality I'm looking to avoid. I agree with others that Mistborn Trilogy is the best introduction for the authors works Mistborn no doubt.
But if you like scifi, Skyward is actually pretty entertaining too. Unfinished series, but should be finished soon(ish). And unlike most authors, when Sanderson says it'll be done soon, it actually will be.
And I'd put Warbreaker ahead of Elantris for a standalone novel. Elantris is pretty heavy and rather clunky. Warbreaker is a lot lighter read (but if you want epic stuff, I guess Elantris has a bit more of it).
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Any particular reason I should read it as a book or is audiobook fine?
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I never listen to audiobooks so I cannot comment on that.
Sanderson is really interesting. I really enjoyed Mistborn, but while there is war, people die, get raped and whatever, it still feels a little bit like PG13 fantasy to me. Also he is horrible with writing lovestories.
Stormlight Archives, I really enjoyed the first two books, intriguing systems, interesting story, great setting and world building. But I have absolut no desire to carry on reading into the next books of the series. It feels like the story can only go downhill from where we currently are. And while I think the 'magic'-systems he is building are really cool, he is overdoing it for my taste. + Show Spoiler +I mean, Kaladin is basically flying like an F18 fighter-jet at the end of book 2. It is kind of ridiculous.
Interesting writer for sure, but I do not foresee that I will follow all of his book series to the great finale that he is planning at some time far away in the future.
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On February 25 2022 18:01 Malinor wrote:I never hera Audiobooks so I cannot comment on that. Sanderson is really interesting. I really enjoyed Mistborn, but while there is war, people die, get raped and whatever, it still feels a little bit like PG13 fantasy to me. Also he is horrible with writing lovestories. Stormlight Archives, I really enjoyed the first two books, intriguing systems, interesting story, great setting and world building. But I have absolut no desire to carry on reading into the next books of the series. It feels like the story can only go downhill from where we currently are. And while I think the 'magic'-systems he is building are really cool, he is overdoing it for my taste. + Show Spoiler +I mean, Kaladin is basically flying like an F18 fighter-jet at the end of book 2. It is kind of ridiculous. Interesting writer for sure, but I do not foresee that I will follow all of his book series to the great finale that he is planning at some time far away in the future.
Haven't heard a audiobook all my life (well, as a small child when walkmen's still existed) and it's really not my thing. No idea
I do like the Sanderson's supernatural abilities always have a limit on them from the get go basically, but I agree: With Stormlight he may have overdone it a bit.
Brent Weeks is a lot similar in world building and "ability building" but a bit more on the adult side IMO. Can recommend as a follow up to Sanderson
+ Show Spoiler +If you don't know who Durzo Blint is, you are not a fantasy fan IMO :D
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On February 24 2022 16:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2022 09:43 Archeon wrote: I think the Mistborn trilogy and his first major book Elantris are both good starting points. I tend to disagree. Elantris to me was one of his worst books and frankly hard to get though because it felt so slow. I would start with Mistborn 1-3 and then possibly Stormlight Archives 1. That's probably part of why I liked Elantris. Sanderson at times feels a bit formulaic to me and Elantris took more time to develop characters and felt less like a teens book (which is often intentional) with action in predictable intervals. Fantasy and especially Sanderson feels a bit streamlined to me nowadays and Elantris was less so. Stormlight takes it's time on occasion too though.
I really liked Stormlight archives so far, but I don't think it's a good entry point unless you're into large sagas that on occasion describe a random merchant's travel experience for worldbuilding purposes.
On February 25 2022 18:01 Malinor wrote:I never listen to audiobooks so I cannot comment on that. Sanderson is really interesting. I really enjoyed Mistborn, but while there is war, people die, get raped and whatever, it still feels a little bit like PG13 fantasy to me. Also he is horrible with writing lovestories. Stormlight Archives, I really enjoyed the first two books, intriguing systems, interesting story, great setting and world building. But I have absolut no desire to carry on reading into the next books of the series. It feels like the story can only go downhill from where we currently are. And while I think the 'magic'-systems he is building are really cool, he is overdoing it for my taste. + Show Spoiler +I mean, Kaladin is basically flying like an F18 fighter-jet at the end of book 2. It is kind of ridiculous. Interesting writer for sure, but I do not foresee that I will follow all of his book series to the great finale that he is planning at some time far away in the future. Book 3 moves the focus a bit away from Kaladin and while I'd say that Sanderson keeps escalating and that the middle part feels a bit stretched he also deviates a bit from his tried and true formula and in the end it has imo one of the most satisfying payoffs he ever wrote. Which wouldn't be that high a bar normally since imo he is decent but not great at this, but he really outdid himself in that book.
Like personally I think that what he does with Kaladin in the book is still weak, but what he does with Dalinar and Shallan is spot on.
On a side note this reads a bit like I'm bashing Sanderson and I want to be clear that I think he's one of the best fantasy authors there are. I just think he often plays it a bit too close to the playbook and it's really noticeable after you've read a bunch of his books like me.
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On September 18 2018 03:19 Silvanel wrote: You left out some pretty serious contenders: d)Sergiej Łukajnienko - Patrol (i guess it wasnt transalted to English???)
It was translated to English and I would like to remind you that there were even full movie adaptations of it (which were also translated to English, even with dubbing). Sergei Lukyanenko wrote the Watch series (not Patrol, that's a bad Polish translation).
Read all of it, amazing series, highly recommended (movies are hella confusing though).
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On February 25 2022 10:33 Jerubaal wrote: Any particular reason I should read it as a book or is audiobook fine? This is probably a personal preference thing tbh
I always go for books most of the time. I just have a mental voice on how character sound in my head while reading so i don't like audiobooks. Also my reading speed sometimes is slow or fast so a measured pace kinda ruins my reading mood when i have to pause
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I don't really like audiobooks because I tend to space out and miss big chunks of what's going on. I'm more of a visual person myself so it's always books for me (I don't much like ebooks either, nothing beats the tactile feel the paper gives you).
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I finally caught the Sanderson bug. My first Sanderson book was Way of Kings and I've just finished the second book in that series and I'm now ready to start Oathbringer. I absolutely love it. What an incredible world he's built here.
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Book 5 of Stormlight is out tomorrow. Its the end of the first arc. How exciting!
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Sanderson is a writing machine. Completely forgot about that. Still no news on Martin and Rothfuss and I guess we never will hear anything
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Unfortunately 5 was probably the weakest book in the series. Not bad but expectations were sky high for me. It was fine when reading it but left a bit off a bitter aftertaste.
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