EPT[GSL 2020] Code S - RO24 - Group E - Page 8
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The_Templar
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RPR_Tempest
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Solar424
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ZigguratOfUr
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Ej_
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On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote: I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so. | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote: I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now Proxy battery has nothing on proxy rax. I've seen at least one proxy battery rush lose, but I never see proxy rax lose. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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RIP Blue shift | ||
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RKC
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Proxy battery and proxy rax have nothing on proxy hatch! | ||
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RPR_Tempest
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On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote: If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so. When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win. | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote: When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win. I'm no expert at cannon rushing, but iirc 12pool is not actually a good counter for it. | ||
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Ej_
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On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote: When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win. I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge? | ||
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Ej_
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On July 04 2020 15:01 pvsnp wrote: I'm no expert at cannon rushing, but iirc 12pool is not actually a good counter for it. 12pool is ok if you know exactly where they start cannons or blindly go 12pool ravagers. | ||
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Solar424
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On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote: I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge? Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote: When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win. Your impressions about the strength of the build order doesn't trump Protoss' persistent lack of success in the match-up. If it's actually broken we'd see it more. | ||
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RKC
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Ej_
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On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote: Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win. sOs has not won a single premier (any?) tournament this entire expansion (4 years) | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote: Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win. sOs has not been very successful as of late. Despite his crazy proxy nexus or carrier rush shenanigans. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote: Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win. Yeah sOs hasn't been having much success or winning many PvZs recently. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7793 Posts
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote: I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge? It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be. | ||
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Ej_
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On July 04 2020 15:07 RPR_Tempest wrote: It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be. So its practically unbeatable but not literally unbeatable? Ok Im phoning Stats rn so je can win GSL | ||
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