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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 04 2020 06:15 GMT
#181
It's a good thing they removed the Interceptor launch upgrade so there's one less upgrade for Prince to not get.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:16:54
July 04 2020 06:16 GMT
#182
On July 04 2020 15:15 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Prince has given me the confidence to become a pro gamer cos now I know I don't need good micro


technically he's classified as an "amateur" by the KR community

there's really no meaningful pro/amateur distinction in modern SC2

Progamer = someone who plays a video game competitively for a living


Wild definition, I know
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:16 GMT
#183
On July 04 2020 15:14 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be.


I'm not sure anyone tries to defend cannon rushes into shield battery pushes with mutas.. And I'd argue that zergs do deal with it rather consistently. Some of the gateway and void ray oriented follow-ups (as opposed to the traditional immortal approach) are flavor of the month currently, but no doubt zerg will find a way to deal with it as usual.


RagnaroK likes to use mutas (if they cannon outside the natural that is), but he's also making the assumption that they'll go for immortals. The more gateway based ones aren't a dealbreaker in that scenario but it doesn't just insta win like if you manage to squeeze out mutas vs the pure immortal ones.


Do you have a vod for that? How the hell do you survive long enough to get a lair and a spire and bank up resources to build mutas off one base.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:17:42
July 04 2020 06:17 GMT
#184
On July 04 2020 15:16 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:15 Waxangel wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Prince has given me the confidence to become a pro gamer cos now I know I don't need good micro


technically he's classified as an "amateur" by the KR community

there's really no meaningful pro/amateur distinction in modern SC2

Progamer = someone who plays a video game competitively for a living


Wild definition, I know


except when it's not?

this community hasn't used that as the definition for pro from like day 1
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#185
On July 04 2020 15:10 Ben... wrote:
If I remember right, the way that Parting lost using battery rush was when the opponent immediately built 4 spines, and the spine strategy held it comfortably. Scarlett couldn't do that due to no spawning pool so she was forced to go ravager. She had already invested in the roach warren and didn't have money for more than one spine before the pool died.

Vs Ragnarok? That wasnt a robo battery rush and he won that game.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#186
On July 04 2020 15:15 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Prince has given me the confidence to become a pro gamer cos now I know I don't need good micro


technically he's classified as an "amateur" by the KR community

there's really no meaningful pro/amateur distinction in modern SC2


True,

Time to become an amateur
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:18:46
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#187
This madlad is on 0/0 upgrades 18 minutes into the game.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#188
I MISS THE HAS AWARD OF MONTH
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#189
How many prisms has Prince lost this game?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#190
I can't tell if this game is good or just stupid
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:18 GMT
#191
Ball of carriers vs ball of lurkers.

Starcraft 2 is CHESS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:19:49
July 04 2020 06:19 GMT
#192
The 0/0 is a metaphor for Prince's status as a lowly amateur against the elitist "pros"

it's a protest against societal class injustice
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 04 2020 06:19 GMT
#193
On July 04 2020 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:14 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be.


I'm not sure anyone tries to defend cannon rushes into shield battery pushes with mutas.. And I'd argue that zergs do deal with it rather consistently. Some of the gateway and void ray oriented follow-ups (as opposed to the traditional immortal approach) are flavor of the month currently, but no doubt zerg will find a way to deal with it as usual.


RagnaroK likes to use mutas (if they cannon outside the natural that is), but he's also making the assumption that they'll go for immortals. The more gateway based ones aren't a dealbreaker in that scenario but it doesn't just insta win like if you manage to squeeze out mutas vs the pure immortal ones.


Do you have a vod for that? How the hell do you survive long enough to get a lair and a spire and bank up resources to build mutas off one base.




So he's playing someone far below his level, but he also implies that he thinks this is the best response when they cannon outside the natural.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#194
Remember that one time CombatEx took a game off PartinG during WCG?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#195
On July 04 2020 15:18 Solar424 wrote:
I can't tell if this game is good or just stupid

Both?
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#196
On July 04 2020 15:19 Waxangel wrote:
The 0/0 is a metaphor for Prince's status as a lowly amateur against the elitist "pros"

it's a protest against societal class injustice


So +2 air upgrades are on the side of the proletariat?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#197
On July 04 2020 15:17 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:16 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:15 Waxangel wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Prince has given me the confidence to become a pro gamer cos now I know I don't need good micro


technically he's classified as an "amateur" by the KR community

there's really no meaningful pro/amateur distinction in modern SC2

Progamer = someone who plays a video game competitively for a living


Wild definition, I know


except when it's not?

this community hasn't used that as the definition for pro from like day 1

It's not my fault people are wrong and stupid
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#198
I think a lot of the newcomers this season have really nice ideas about how to play but they lack execution and refinement
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 04 2020 06:20 GMT
#199
On July 04 2020 15:18 Solar424 wrote:
I can't tell if this game is good or just stupid

You say that like there's any difference whatsoever between the two.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6122 Posts
July 04 2020 06:21 GMT
#200
Prince has a really cool style to watch.

Epic comeback from Scarlett though
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