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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 04 2020 06:22 GMT
#201
On July 04 2020 15:19 Waxangel wrote:
The 0/0 is a metaphor for Prince's status as a lowly amateur against the elitist "pros"

it's a protest against societal class injustice


You are in this GSL but we do not grant you the rank of professional.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:23 GMT
#202
On July 04 2020 15:19 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:14 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be.


I'm not sure anyone tries to defend cannon rushes into shield battery pushes with mutas.. And I'd argue that zergs do deal with it rather consistently. Some of the gateway and void ray oriented follow-ups (as opposed to the traditional immortal approach) are flavor of the month currently, but no doubt zerg will find a way to deal with it as usual.


RagnaroK likes to use mutas (if they cannon outside the natural that is), but he's also making the assumption that they'll go for immortals. The more gateway based ones aren't a dealbreaker in that scenario but it doesn't just insta win like if you manage to squeeze out mutas vs the pure immortal ones.


Do you have a vod for that? How the hell do you survive long enough to get a lair and a spire and bank up resources to build mutas off one base.




So he's playing someone far below his level, but he also implies that he thinks this is the best response when they cannon outside the natural.


Oh yeah sure if they go for one of the bad cannon rushes where they let you get up to three bases that's fine.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:23 GMT
#203
1st unit sentry


This guy is cray cray
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2020 06:24 GMT
#204
Sentry first? If there was a zealot, I'd think this was Rail
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 04 2020 06:24 GMT
#205
It's DTs
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:26:00
July 04 2020 06:25 GMT
#206
I remember this build from early LotV
But normally you show an immortal
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:25:56
July 04 2020 06:25 GMT
#207
On July 04 2020 15:23 Ej_ wrote:
1st unit sentry


This guy is cray cray

Against a person known for cheesing while also not scouting.

If Scarlett did 12 pool it would have been a build order loss.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 04 2020 06:25 GMT
#208
This isn't a prince, this is a KING
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
July 04 2020 06:25 GMT
#209
I'm surprised he didn't try to glaive-adept the worst glaive-adept defender in the GSL

Maybe it would have been too obvious
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:26 GMT
#210
Of course he gets stride.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:27:21
July 04 2020 06:27 GMT
#211
On July 04 2020 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Of course he gets stride.


At this point, I think we see DT blink more often than not when they go DTs.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
July 04 2020 06:27 GMT
#212
On July 04 2020 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Of course he gets stride.


I love how Classic managed to turn a terrible upgrade into the ultimate jebait with one game
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:28:02
July 04 2020 06:27 GMT
#213
Is there a consensus about when to go DT blink? I think it's almost always worth it when you get DTs that early anyways
But again, he's just bungling the execution of it
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 04 2020 06:27 GMT
#214
This game is getting into snarf territory.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
July 04 2020 06:28 GMT
#215
Seeing that Super went for this too in his group vs rogue... Ionno, is this some Team GP special strat?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 04 2020 06:28 GMT
#216
On July 04 2020 15:27 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Of course he gets stride.


I love how Classic managed to turn a terrible upgrade into the ultimate jebait with one game

This is NightMare erasure
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:29 GMT
#217
On July 04 2020 15:28 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:27 Waxangel wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Of course he gets stride.


I love how Classic managed to turn a terrible upgrade into the ultimate jebait with one game

This is NightMare erasure

Classic was the first person to get it in PvZ
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:30 GMT
#218
On July 04 2020 15:29 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:28 Solar424 wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:27 Waxangel wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Of course he gets stride.


I love how Classic managed to turn a terrible upgrade into the ultimate jebait with one game

This is NightMare erasure

Classic was the first person to get it in PvZ


Before the 7 minute mark that is.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 04 2020 06:31 GMT
#219
Prince is the new Classic?

I miss Classic
gg no re thx
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:33:31
July 04 2020 06:32 GMT
#220
On July 04 2020 15:31 RKC wrote:
Prince is the new Classic?

I miss Classic


He has twice the style, but a quarter the control.

edit: And five Nydus worms later Prince still doesn't have vision in the corner of his main.
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