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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
July 04 2020 05:54 GMT
#141
This is exactly the kind of Starcraft gameplay I'm into.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 04 2020 05:57 GMT
#142
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 04 2020 05:58 GMT
#143
That drone pull was a major blunder
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 05:58 GMT
#144
Prince's execution with the cancels doesn't seem all that great. But it was good enough.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 05:58 GMT
#145
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:00:07
July 04 2020 05:58 GMT
#146
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now


Proxy battery has nothing on proxy rax. I've seen at least one proxy battery rush lose, but I never see proxy rax lose.
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2020 05:59 GMT
#147
This is like one of the few maps left in the map pool that actually allows that specific variant of the cannon rush.

RIP Blue shift
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 04 2020 05:59 GMT
#148
On July 04 2020 14:58 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now


Proxy battery has nothing on proxy rax.


Proxy battery and proxy rax have nothing on proxy hatch!
gg no re thx
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 04 2020 06:00 GMT
#149
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 04 2020 06:01 GMT
#150
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.


I'm no expert at cannon rushing, but iirc 12pool is not actually a good counter for it.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:01 GMT
#151
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:02 GMT
#152
On July 04 2020 15:01 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.


I'm no expert at cannon rushing, but iirc 12pool is not actually a good counter for it.

12pool is ok if you know exactly where they start cannons or blindly go 12pool ravagers.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 04 2020 06:03 GMT
#153
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:03 GMT
#154
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.


Your impressions about the strength of the build order doesn't trump Protoss' persistent lack of success in the match-up. If it's actually broken we'd see it more.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 04 2020 06:04 GMT
#155
Would not losing the pool and having a few lings to tank or runby the wall to cut off reinforcements helped?
gg no re thx
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:04 GMT
#156
On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win.

sOs has not won a single premier (any?) tournament this entire expansion (4 years)
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 06:05:10
July 04 2020 06:04 GMT
#157
On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win.


sOs has not been very successful as of late. Despite his crazy proxy nexus or carrier rush shenanigans.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 04 2020 06:05 GMT
#158
On July 04 2020 15:03 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

Because if you mess it up and lose you just look stupid. That's why players like sOs succeed, because they don't care how it makes them look, a win's a win.


Yeah sOs hasn't been having much success or winning many PvZs recently.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 04 2020 06:07 GMT
#159
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 04 2020 06:09 GMT
#160
On July 04 2020 15:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2020 15:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 15:00 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:58 Ej_ wrote:
On July 04 2020 14:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I dunno how y'all feel about it but I think proxy shield battery rushes are the most powerful build in the game right now

If that was case, PvZ wouldn't be below 50% for the last 4 years or so.

When performed by someone with good micro like PartinG it seems practically unbeatable, only counter is 12 pool or something to stop it from getting up to begin with. When good players do it they don't even need to cannon the natural, they'll just do it outside your base and win.

I saw Stephano beat Parting trying to cannon rush lmao

Furthermore, if a build is unbeatable, why don't progamers do it every game? Do they lack the expert knowledge?

It's not literally unbeatable but despite how long the build has been around it seems like Zergs just can't deal with it consistently. Some try nydus, some try mutas, most try ravagers, some try lings/queens, and there doesn't seem to be any strategy that beats it with any real consistency. It reminds me of immortal/sentry in 2012 where it's just so hard to hold even if you are aware its coming. If you do any build EVERY game people will just blind counter it, not that I have any idea what a blind counter would be.

So its practically unbeatable but not literally unbeatable? Ok
Im phoning Stats rn so je can win GSL
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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