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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL 시즌 10 MAP TEST(미정) some minor resources and map edits | ||
FlaShFTW
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M3t4PhYzX
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True_Spike
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 07 2020 14:33 FlaShFTW wrote: I think I also noticed something interesting about Ringing Bloom. Zergs in ZvP can't do the 4 base turtle set up because they need the sim city. Unless they get the macro hatch at the ramp fast enough maybe. probably have to go 3 hatch or pool first opening but now that you mention it, the map seems quite in favor against zerg | ||
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 07 2020 18:22 M3t4PhYzX wrote: I really wish that they made some mini tournament on these maps.. are any progamers actually practicing them atm? i could only find this map that reviewed the map but there's no subs stork: for ringing bloom, stork is saying this map is very good for protoss because protoss can go nexus first into gateway, and skipping forge and use 2 probes to block ramp, and lings can't attack. marines can be defended against because of high ground advantage. plus the fact that main is 10 minerals and backyard expo is 7 minerals make it very good for protoss. usually for maps with 10 minerals in the main, the expo should be 6 minerals, as stork highlights. 3rd base is also 8 mineral patches, and this is a macro map. as stork says, "i can order fried chicken at the start of the match, and the game will still be ongoing when the delivery arrives." simcity at 3rd map is hard for zerg, so it'll likely be a zerg graveyard. open map, hard sim-city expo making it heavily toss favored, but he expects the map to get some protoss nerfs. mid expo should be impractical and would probably be never used. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4081 Posts
On May 08 2020 17:45 konadora wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3AZTpIoGM i could only find this map that reviewed the map but there's no subs stork: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ioizR1VTSQ for ringing bloom, stork is saying this map is very good for protoss because protoss can go nexus first into gateway, and skipping forge and use 2 probes to block ramp, and lings can't attack. marines can be defended against because of high ground advantage. plus the fact that main is 10 minerals and backyard expo is 7 minerals make it very good for protoss. usually for maps with 10 minerals in the main, the expo should be 6 minerals, as stork highlights. 3rd base is also 8 mineral patches, and this is a macro map. as stork says, "i can order fried chicken at the start of the match, and the game will still be ongoing when the delivery arrives." simcity at 3rd map is hard for zerg, so it'll likely be a zerg graveyard. open map, hard sim-city expo making it heavily toss favored, but he expects the map to get some protoss nerfs. mid expo should be impractical and would probably be never used. Stork's video about Ringing Bloom I saw and even posted here, but thanks a lot for the translation  the other video was unknown to me, thanks for posting. | ||
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Ivory Coast856 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
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Freakling
Germany1525 Posts
Are those unbuildable tiles in the natural chokes intentional? I'd also suggest you at least use something like this for unpassable Asphalt, as currently map readability is terrible for players:+ Show Spoiler [show image] + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/5n3lzIf.jpg) | ||
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LatiAs
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On June 01 2020 20:58 Freakling wrote: @LatiAs: Are you aware that terrain levels for the unwalkable part of the new reverse ramps are all messed up? this causes vision bugs where you get vision of units/buildings on the edge of the high ground, but this can be easily foxed by replacing the buggy tiles with some standard cliff tiles. Are those unbuildable tiles in the natural chokes intentional? I'd also suggest you at least use something like this for unpassable Asphalt, as currently map readability is terrible for players:+ Show Spoiler [show image] + Yeah, I noticed ramps' height problem, but it was after I finished all the work. It cannot be fixed now that the period has passed. But I think It is a small matter that can be ignored. Unbuildable tiles are intentional. Without them, Terrans can block zerglings perfectly with 2 supply depots and 1 barrack at bottom left natural. But tiles at top right is just for symmetry.  I'll think about your suggestion in the next version, including the ramp problems. | ||
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LML
Germany1737 Posts
After my natural died he also tried attacking up my ramp with his reaver, but his reaver would also not shoot. Both reavers had scarabs available to attack. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4081 Posts
On June 02 2020 17:20 LML wrote: I've had a problem in a game last night where my reaver just wouldn't shoot down the ramp at the top right. My opponent's reaver was in range of my reaver, and neither of them would shoot. It was extremely frustrating since I lost my natural because of it. After my natural died he also tried attacking up my ramp with his reaver, but his reaver would also not shoot. Both reavers had scarabs available to attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQZp_1NAHNI oh snap.. this is not good at all and can cause huge problems if it happens in some bigger league like ASL or BSL or something like that.. should be fixed asap | ||
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Freakling
Germany1525 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/sRcfEow.jpg) However, removing that unwalkable tile (red circle) below the geyser (never put unwalkable subtiles on or next to a geyser centre, by the way! Funky bugs are associated with that!) fixes it handily, while also taking care of another Reaver jam bug a bit outside the nat, fixing some potential mining issues, and all that with no ill by-effect whatsoever it seems! Don't worry, I don't know about ASL policies, but a trivial but important fix like this should not be denied, even if team league had already started. And as for ladder, if you just send Matt Sherman a hotfix, the map will be updated on ladder within the week. | ||
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TT1
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Just_a_Moth
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A.Alm
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Freakling
Germany1525 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4081 Posts
On June 17 2020 16:06 TT1 wrote: optmizer is really good, could be the next gosu 4p map really hope so!!! we need some freshness in the balanced map pool, for sure (like the Neo Sylphid addition for example) | ||
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zlald
Korea (South)34 Posts
On June 17 2020 18:24 A.Alm wrote: i had same problem on bot right corner of polypoid (reaver wouldnt fire on ramp) I'm figuring out some pathing problems (eg. route of workers moving from main to natural, mining path, reaver, ...) if anyone find some buggy situations, please leave a comment here.. it would be really helpful for me ... | ||
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