On March 12 2019 03:54 Vivax wrote: I think Tubesock is highly suspicious just for the fact that nobody, and I mean literally nobody IIRC, has brought him up for lynch.
The above sentiment saddens those of us here at the Dead Zone Show. Even though we've decided to devote our lives to late night radio, we still like to think of ourselves as people worthy of consideration.
Radio hosts are people too!
With that being said, here's what your host had to say about Tubesock on D3:
On March 11 2019 05:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Faithful listener LightningStrike writes in:
On March 11 2019 03:53 LightningStrike wrote: So why is Wiggle keeping his vote on Tube when we got 2 close wagons atm?
Your host's vote on Tubesock was made because we want to lynch scum. The fact that TS has gone AFK is starting to put us off a bit like with Chezinu yesterday, but we believe our previous read is solid. Here is our collection of past Dead Zone Show clips where we talk about Tubesock:
Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?
I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.
On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote: Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.
You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.
Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmarso he actually plays. Town win wins.
On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote: I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.
If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.
I think this is a bad post. It's quite obvious why he questions acros posts because there's no distinction between any of those other players.
What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game?
On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote: There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.
If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch.
I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you!
Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace?
That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.
You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor.
Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone.
Reads scummy to me.
When I have a lynch target I’ll let everyone one know. Do you want an opinion from me?
Am I and Conversion your only scumreads? Who do you want for mayor and why?
Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear.
I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too.
I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.
I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator.
On March 06 2019 11:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Tubesock fell off the face of the earth. Still scum though.
Got to pressure vote trfel near the start of the day and park the vote because the rest of us ran with a case. No posting into D2 means no pressure from the lynch fallout. Pushed the Palmar is scum thing early without needing to commit hard on it or later comment on HF's announcement of a Palmar lynch.
We've only gotten two reads out of TS on trfel and conversion and they've both flipped now. Besides that we have zero information on where their head's at, scum-hunting wise. Lurking without offering anything to town.
On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in:
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote: Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.
This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles
This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo!
On March 09 2019 19:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Acro writes in some thing about us having a weird interaction ewith Tubesock. We say that the distinction here is that Tubesock thinks that your faithful host's behaviour is similar to his own, but we do not agreee with that. We see TS as lacking in scum hunting or professing reads. It's D3 and we have only a faint idea of what the gentlyeperson in question actually thjinks. As town that's a pretyy big WTF. There's no reason to lay low and keep your cards close to your chest at this point. We're playing mafia, not poker. Seems way more likely to be scum motivated as not contributing reads or solving the game allows you to not get caught in a contradiction or take pressure for your views lqter on. You might take heat for not helping town out (like I've been trying to do to TS) but otherwise you can keep laying low and hope town passes over your redness.
So for Acro's point, I don't see our play as the same. That's why I can say that Ts' thing about replacing me with him in my case makes him scum. He supposedly agrees that the main thrust of what I wrote points to scum, but tries to undermine it by sayoing it could point to me as well. I don't think our play is the same, so I don't believe you can honestly do the replacement. In that case, he's just saying that his own play is scummy, but that I shouldn't gibe him crap for it since he thinks I'm doing the same, which I'm not.
Voting this guy to die
If we're looking to kill scummy lurkers, I think TS should be the #1 choice. I implore my listeners to follow my lead and vote to kill this guy. If not, they can at least argue why I'm wrong.
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Altogether, this is enough that I'll vote for Chezinu closer to the deadline if I need to save Ace, but I'd rather we kill Tubesock.
We are gladdened to see others catching on to the case against Tubesock, even though it appears to be happening subconsciously as opposed to being based on your host's persuasive arguments. We'll be placing out vote there for now, in the hope of flushing him out from wherever he's hiding before bringing him to justice.
If it looks like Tubesock has flown the coop, so to speak, we will be voting for another promising scum candidate closer to the deadline.
On March 12 2019 11:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Pandain not dead after his shot is scummy as fuck to me. Same with Acro. Why was Ace killed ahead of them? There was also plenty of people willing to kill him today. I feel like he was right about something the rest of the thread hadn't bought into so i gotta reread his filter.
I was wondering who was going to use this to push agenda
The TT kill makes me wonder if Mafia is trying to leave WIFOM at max levels if both MZ and Wiggles are town here. He wasn't scumread by anyone really but he didn't have much presence either. Hmmm.
On March 12 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: The TT kill makes me wonder if Mafia is trying to leave WIFOM at max levels if both MZ and Wiggles are town here. He wasn't scumread by anyone really but he didn't have much presence either. Hmmm.
yeah, just annoying really.
when i have done kills like that, I took out low hanging-fruit because I wanted keep infighting at play.
Im a bit confused then, cos who are they expecting to infight?
The only other thing that makes sense to me is they seeking to keep discussion around the amoutn of blue claims.
Disgruntled ex-employee Meapak_Ziphh called in with this to say:
On March 12 2019 11:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Pandain not dead after his shot is scummy as fuck to me. Same with Acro. Why was Ace killed ahead of them? There was also plenty of people willing to kill him today. I feel like he was right about something the rest of the thread hadn't bought into so i gotta reread his filter.
Our own explanation for this from those of us here at the show is that the only claimed vigilante who had a full-on alignment confirmation was TW, since they took out the dastardly BC in a magnificent display of brutal street justice.
People have (rightfully) been considering that either of Pandain or Acrofales could be scum, regardless of their role. Ace was also pushing that one of the vigis could be scum, and was using it in part to push Acrofales as a lynch. By killing Ace and leaving the two non-town-confirmed vigis alive, maybe scum are pushing to try to lynch into them? It seems a lot like bait to try to get an Acrofales lynch going.
Your faithful host has reviewed the case on DF and we agree that he doesn't look good. If desired for questioning, we suspect that he'll be found at the local trout pond, as he seems to be quite fond of fishing for answers.
Beyond that, he seems to float where the wind takes him, without providing any substance of his own.
On March 12 2019 11:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Can we talk about vivax? He should be 100% gone by now also 1000% gone.
I wanna say the ace kill means that scum knew that sent was mafia
The bolded is likely true.
We here at the Dead Zone Show would like to reach out to LightningStrike and Oatsmaster for comment. Could you please expand on this point for our fine citizens listening at home?
We believe the question of whether scum knew about Sentinel's treacherous qualities is relevant to the case of the mysterious drifter known as Onegu.
After the Sentinel lynch Onegu was quick to come in and passionately throw around the idea that scum had no idea who Sentinel was. We don't know how they could be so sure of that fact. Wouldn't only scum know for certain?
As scum that could be a misdirection play to keep town from focusing more on the other D3 wagons.
Well folks, that's all the time we have for tonight's edition of the Dead Zone Show. Sweet dreams Liquidia. Remember to send in your fan mail and we'll be sure to read it out on air during the next show.
If you are mafia and are roleplaying cause you know it make me want to never lymch you... its working... and then you vote not me... making want to save .myself more...
On March 11 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Aight its the opposite from yesterday, i could honestly go for both of these lunches. But gut and dead town say sentinel so I'm comfortable with that.
alright this one is the thing that is really scummy for me. Hes like still waffley and uses dead town from like day 1 to justify his read when there is so much more that MZ couldve used but he doesnt care. He also uses the word "comfortable" which implies an uncaring attitude towards the lynch. I feel like he hedges here with the "dead town" because he doesnt want to seem too sure that Sent is mafia because he isnt supposed to know BUT HE DOES DUN DUN DUN
On March 12 2019 13:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Well folks, that's all the time we have for tonight's edition of the Dead Zone Show. Sweet dreams Liquidia. Remember to send in your fan mail and we'll be sure to read it out on air during the next show.
Our paths will cross again soon!
Dear Dead Zone Show:
I have found it strange that my inability to read anyone has caused me to go slowly from universal townreadedness (how would I say that? Oh from being generally regarded as townie) to a stronger and more universal scum read from my fellows. My alignment didn’t change; So I have to ask, is not the General methodology this town is using, somewhat of a failure? Can we agree on that? What then, is a reliable metric to use to find criminals, without as much risk of the costly error of assigning a sentence to the innocent?
Also, how can one who has found that spending the time to pick up a $100.00 bill would cost him more than he would make keeping it, prove innocence quickly and concisely?
I posit this is impossible, and ask that people read my filter. Is it so bad?
What is your take? Are the eyes of Svengali upon my filter?
I posit I lack the skill.
But
May this town Mowglify. Despite how our bagheeras are all deeply entranced (shot) mayhap we can push kaa
On March 12 2019 14:01 Chezinu wrote: Dear Mr. Wiggles.
If you are mafia and are roleplaying cause you know it make me want to never lymch you... its working... and then you vote not me... making want to save .myself more...
My good man
What is this
We’re you feeling the guilt or did He ask you to witness?
Mayhap I have been treating you alike to Holyflare
On March 12 2019 11:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Pandain not dead after his shot is scummy as fuck to me. Same with Acro. Why was Ace killed ahead of them? There was also plenty of people willing to kill him today. I feel like he was right about something the rest of the thread hadn't bought into so i gotta reread his filter.
Our own explanation for this from those of us here at the show is that the only claimed vigilante who had a full-on alignment confirmation was TW, since they took out the dastardly BC in a magnificent display of brutal street justice.
People have (rightfully) been considering that either of Pandain or Acrofales could be scum, regardless of their role. Ace was also pushing that one of the vigis could be scum, and was using it in part to push Acrofales as a lynch. By killing Ace and leaving the two non-town-confirmed vigis alive, maybe scum are pushing to try to lynch into them? It seems a lot like bait to try to get an Acrofales lynch going.
I agree with this?
At least parts of it? I still think Pandain's shot + claim is absolutely terrible and I don't think people should clear him. I really need to reread acro but I had him as green. I could see scum trying to get a mislynch rolling there.
Hi everyone. I should be back and posting more today. My brain is no longer a hazy fog of dense wet sadness. Can someone explain to me why the NKs are weird this time? I'm not quote following the logic. Thanks
On March 11 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Aight its the opposite from yesterday, i could honestly go for both of these lunches. But gut and dead town say sentinel so I'm comfortable with that.
alright this one is the thing that is really scummy for me. Hes like still waffley and uses dead town from like day 1 to justify his read when there is so much more that MZ couldve used but he doesnt care. He also uses the word "comfortable" which implies an uncaring attitude towards the lynch. I feel like he hedges here with the "dead town" because he doesnt want to seem too sure that Sent is mafia because he isnt supposed to know BUT HE DOES DUN DUN DUN
I've been leaning pretty strongly on the reads of dead town from the first few days since that's when I was closely reading the thread. I'm gonna reread some filters tomorrow and try and get some decent reads hammered out. I've seen a few people lightly push me as a potential lynch which I understand, regardless of how things pan out I'll be voting for my scummiest read.
On March 12 2019 15:44 Jockmcplop wrote: Hi everyone. I should be back and posting more today. My brain is no longer a hazy fog of dense wet sadness. Can someone explain to me why the NKs are weird this time? I'm not quote following the logic. Thanks
We have claimed vigis who were not shot last night. Take that as you will since some people believe they were left alive as lynch bait. You'll have to draw your own conclusions
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