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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 08 2019 08:02 GMT
#81
On March 08 2019 16:31 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 08:59 Mahanaim wrote:
I would still have put Serral on #1 and soO at #2 (for tradition), but hey, if you are the reigning champion of IEM Katowice, then you at least deserve that #1 spot for the time being! soO Jjang Nim fighting!

I guess, that s what the writers were thinking, it would have been blasphemy to place SoO second after all this, so it was either 3rd or 1st, and decided to go with first.
I understand people who say he should be 3rd or even lower, because his run started with pretty bad losses, and then Serral and Stats kinda played sloppily as opposed to SoO pulling out some next level meta-shaping way to play SC2.

But as I said, im fine with him at first. If you would put Serral, people would lose their collective minds as he lost to SoO heads up. Cant put Stats because he s out of GSL and ultimately was beaten by SoO, despite his clean run till that point.
Dark looks hot, but hasnt won anything, Maru looked bad.

So yeah, SoO first makes sense.


Those are some terrible reasons to place soO first. First of all this is supposed to be a power rank, if soO deserves to be second he's second--no blasphemy involved. And if head to head is that important to you, why is soO ahead of herO, TY, Dear or Bunny?
SpaWnvERtiGO
Profile Joined November 2016
110 Posts
March 08 2019 08:09 GMT
#82
sOO won Katowice after what, 6 GSL finals appearances?
Hes been good for at least 6 years consistent.....

Give him a month stop the rankings ..... it wont kill anyone...
SpaWnvERtiGO
Profile Joined November 2016
110 Posts
March 08 2019 08:11 GMT
#83
Fact is, consistency aside, who ever won the last tournament is in the best shape....

Marus performance is the glaring example..... and for that matter, look at Rogue vs Ragnarok....

Rogue has BEEN better, I would STILL say hes bette but at the moment, its Ragnarok over Rogue......


Results speak loudest....m
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12126 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 08:18:22
March 08 2019 08:11 GMT
#84
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.

The fuck, dude? He got THE BEST PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Have you missed it or what? The last power rank for 2018(which I found) is the October one and Serral didn't anything as impressive as 3 consecutive Code S titles back then. Then there's the conclusion where Serral gets the best player.

He got player of the year, then there wasn't anything for 3 months, then he lost in the group to Innovation of all players and to top that off he lost in the RO8. At this moment spot #2 is just because he looked strong, but his momentum isn't the greatest, is it?

Currently soO is the reigning champion of IEM while the last Serral's success is the Blizzcon win 3 months ago. soO managed to beat Serral. soO managed to beat Innovation in the code S group while Serral lost to Innovation in his IEM group.

There's no clear indication that Serral at this moment is better than IEM champion. What kind of indication you want to use, 3 months old result from the previous season and previous balance patch? If we use Code S and IEM than soO IS better than Serral at this moment.

On March 08 2019 08:01 fishjie wrote:
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On March 08 2019 07:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I mean, the Serral fanboys have been annoying, but there's no denying he still deserves #1. Even with how heavily IEM seems to be weighted here, Serral only barely lost to soO and looked much more convincing throughout. soO stumbled his way through up until he met Serral. Not to mention Serral just came off an extraordinary 2018, while soO was mostly irrelevant.

I love Gumiho as well, but Trap deserves to be above him.


Yup, serral could easily have won that series. and he's already beaten stats twice, so he easily could've won IEM. all the more reason to remove region lock. let him keep showing his dominance over the best in the world. i want moar soo vs serral. zvz went from gglord winfestor broodlord vs broodlord roro vs curious, to intense back and forth roach ravager insanity. so beautiful


It was so easy he easily ended the IEM with 2 losses and RO8 finish for the Finish. Sad story, really. So easy. Why he didn't do it if it's so easy?
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 08 2019 08:17 GMT
#85
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.


We bullied Serral so much that he personally sat down with us at HSC to give us an exclusive interview. When does the cruelty stop? :O
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 08:21:42
March 08 2019 08:20 GMT
#86
On March 08 2019 17:17 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.


We bullied Serral so much that he personally sat down with us at HSC to give us an exclusive interview. When does the cruelty stop? :O


I'd like to see Serral's face when he's told that those meanie TL writers are bullying him.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12126 Posts
March 08 2019 08:22 GMT
#87
On March 08 2019 17:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 17:17 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.


We bullied Serral so much that he personally sat down with us at HSC to give us an exclusive interview. When does the cruelty stop? :O


I'd like to see Serral's face when he's told that those meanie TL writers are bullying him.

I want to be bullied with the best player of the year too. Please, TL, make it happen. I can wait for December 2019, no worries, just remember
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
SnowAngel
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland38 Posts
March 08 2019 08:38 GMT
#88
To my understanding, this is a ranking of current form, not class. Soo would be a lot lower in the list, if the latter was the case. As it stands, the list seems accurate.
Akio
Profile Joined January 2019
Finland1825 Posts
March 08 2019 08:50 GMT
#89
Nice power rank, excited for Maru to claim his throne with the upcoming WESG and GSL
Mine gas, build tanks.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 08 2019 09:01 GMT
#90
On March 08 2019 17:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 16:31 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 08 2019 08:59 Mahanaim wrote:
I would still have put Serral on #1 and soO at #2 (for tradition), but hey, if you are the reigning champion of IEM Katowice, then you at least deserve that #1 spot for the time being! soO Jjang Nim fighting!

I guess, that s what the writers were thinking, it would have been blasphemy to place SoO second after all this, so it was either 3rd or 1st, and decided to go with first.
I understand people who say he should be 3rd or even lower, because his run started with pretty bad losses, and then Serral and Stats kinda played sloppily as opposed to SoO pulling out some next level meta-shaping way to play SC2.

But as I said, im fine with him at first. If you would put Serral, people would lose their collective minds as he lost to SoO heads up. Cant put Stats because he s out of GSL and ultimately was beaten by SoO, despite his clean run till that point.
Dark looks hot, but hasnt won anything, Maru looked bad.

So yeah, SoO first makes sense.


Those are some terrible reasons to place soO first. First of all this is supposed to be a power rank, if soO deserves to be second he's second--no blasphemy involved. And if head to head is that important to you, why is soO ahead of herO, TY, Dear or Bunny?

Well, you've been along for long enough, I should think, Power Ranks are always somewhat subjective and each writer has his own ideas how to weigh the results and performances.

I for one am glad that it's multiple writers doing the PR and coming to a consensus, and not just the whims of a designated person (like, remember Fakesteve's PR?). It's impossible to please everyone or to be 100% objective with so few tournaments going on.
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 09:04:26
March 08 2019 09:03 GMT
#91
Hey, just a note to the editor:

"It's a testament to the Towel Terran's tenacity that he made the top ten this month."
This should be:
"'Tis a true testament to the Towel Terran's tenacity that he took to the top ten this time."
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8984 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 09:16:48
March 08 2019 09:16 GMT
#92
The real crime is herO being #6 when he never looked good outside of retarded PvP games and blatently bracket lucked his way to the ro4 at Katowice
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 08 2019 10:38 GMT
#93
Looking at the power rank...sounds about right.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6668 Posts
March 08 2019 10:40 GMT
#94
Nice power rank! Always a fun and enlightening read

Hope these will come more regularly now that 2019 picks up its pace
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
March 08 2019 11:16 GMT
#95
SoO on #1 is absurd. His group stage performance was quite mediocre, while Serral's was strong. When they played, he narrowly beat him. Take into account the massive strength and consistency of Serral in 2018 and this placement just doesn't work out. I get it why you did it though, kong story and all. Though it would have also been funny if he was #2 on the only ranking that matters anyways, lol.
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 08 2019 12:44 GMT
#96
On March 08 2019 17:38 SnowAngel wrote:
To my understanding, this is a ranking of current form, not class. Soo would be a lot lower in the list, if the latter was the case. As it stands, the list seems accurate.

If it was about class nobody would be debating soO as number 1.
DevilDriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany77 Posts
March 08 2019 14:24 GMT
#97
I think putting soO on the first place is rather extreme, going from not being listed in former rankings, to instantly #1, based on a single tournament. Of course IEM is an incredible tournament, but Serral and Stats have been way more conistent over a long amount of time. soO still has to prove, how strong he really is, in the rest of the year.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12126 Posts
March 08 2019 14:41 GMT
#98
On March 08 2019 23:24 DevilDriver wrote:
I think putting soO on the first place is rather extreme, going from not being listed in former rankings, to instantly #1, based on a single tournament. Of course IEM is an incredible tournament, but Serral and Stats have been way more conistent over a long amount of time. soO still has to prove, how strong he really is, in the rest of the year.

We had Code S groups and IEM. And that's all. There has to be a start and you can't look 3 or even more months back when you're discussing players current form. It's a start of the year, it has to be extreme in some way.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33018 Posts
March 08 2019 15:05 GMT
#99
On March 08 2019 17:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 17:17 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.


We bullied Serral so much that he personally sat down with us at HSC to give us an exclusive interview. When does the cruelty stop? :O


I'd like to see Serral's face when he's told that those meanie TL writers are bullying him.


Serral bullies me every time we interview :'(
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
March 08 2019 15:31 GMT
#100
On March 09 2019 00:05 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 17:20 pvsnp wrote:
On March 08 2019 17:17 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On March 08 2019 16:29 Dave4 wrote:
On March 08 2019 08:05 Waxangel wrote:
On March 08 2019 07:22 Dave4 wrote:
[Blah blah blah blah]


If it's of any solace to you, we gave Serral the extremely prestigious player of the year award

1. Please don't edit my text in an attempt to insult me, I'm pretty sure that's not consistent with the high standards of TL communication.
2. It's not about me, it's about the way TL writers appear to bully Serral via underpaying and mocking his achievements in this way.


We bullied Serral so much that he personally sat down with us at HSC to give us an exclusive interview. When does the cruelty stop? :O


I'd like to see Serral's face when he's told that those meanie TL writers are bullying him.


Serral bullies me every time we interview :'(


Serral is almost as much a bully to interviewer than 2013 Scarlett
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