EPTSC2 Power Rank: March 2019 - Page 7
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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Creo1
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stilt
France2750 Posts
And he got eliminated from his group as expected... TL writing quality is pretty poor nowadays, too bad it's the main community site for sc2 :/ | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:03 youngjiddle wrote: writers now defensive they bring up their Serral interview they did as some kind of defense that they give everyone their attention and have not historically been Korean biased (and still are). "Serral wouldn't care where TL rates him" It's not really about Serral or people who think Serral should be #1. It's more about being dishonest and sharing misinformation for those who aren't hardcore fans. They see this and think soO is the best player in the world right now, which probably isn't the truth. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the writers were all trolls hired by the Korean government to upset the increasingly powerful western SC2 community. The misinformation being spread in this opinion piece is absurd. We, as a community, must take action. Why are we giving these writers any attention? On March 08 2019 17:20 pvsnp wrote: I'd like to see Serral's face when he's told that those meanie TL writers are bullying him. What you didn't see in the interview is the gun pointed at him from behind the camera. "Act like you've got emotions" we told him. "We ranked you second in our PR all year, behind a guy who only wins with proxies. How's that taste?" That's how you get them talking. That and the gun, of course. | ||
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kajtarp
Hungary485 Posts
On March 09 2019 19:54 stilt wrote: Stats could have been ahead of Serral imo considering his performance in late zvt was awful, but putting soO first is ridiculous. And he got eliminated from his group as expected... TL writing quality is pretty poor nowadays, too bad it's the main community site for sc2 :/ They didn't do anything wrong, except they could have waited just a few days until Group A and D is over... | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Really whoever won Katowice was probably gonna get #1. There's not really any other way of doing it until more events go on. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Otherwise based on the circumstances and the number of relevant events so far its a good ranking don't understand so many people bashing it. I guess Serral fan boys want to keep they reputation of the most deluded group of people ever. GJ in that regard | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 09 2019 21:43 MarianoSC2 wrote: My only issue with this list is that Gumi is in it. Should have been Rogue. And TY is too low. Otherwise based on the circumstances and the number of relevant events so far its a good ranking don't understand so many people bashing it. I guess Serral fan boys want to keep they reputation of the most deluded group of people ever. GJ in that regard Have you looked at the results of that astonishing pool, "Who's most deluded: Serral fanboys or Korean Elitists?" ? You may not support the opinion that Serral should be at #1 this power ranking but you should at least understand there is a strong case for it, casually insisting on this "delusion" regarding the most successful player in 2018(according to TL, you know) and the best foreigner in history is frankly out of place. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 09 2019 21:43 MarianoSC2 wrote: My only issue with this list is that Gumi is in it. Should have been Rogue. And TY is too low. Otherwise based on the circumstances and the number of relevant events so far its a good ranking don't understand so many people bashing it. I guess Serral fan boys want to keep they reputation of the most deluded group of people ever. GJ in that regard nvm | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15974 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:10 Xain0n wrote: Have you looked at the results of that astonishing pool, "Who's most deluded: Serral fanboys or Korean Elitists?" ? You may not support the opinion that Serral should be at #1 this power ranking but you should at least understand there is a strong case for it, casually insisting on this "delusion" regarding the most successful player in 2018(according to TL, you know) and the best foreigner in history is frankly out of place. There is a strong case for it but saying "Serral must be first and every other opinion is just dishonest and disrespecting him" is just bullshit. Personally Serral still seems like the best player to me but given his lack of recent results (Blizzcon was 3 months ago) I think it's completely reasonable to put the player that has won the only big tournament this year at the top. Not sure what's there to get upset about... | ||
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria855 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:20 Charoisaur wrote: There is a strong case for it but saying "Serral must be first and every other opinion is just dishonest and disrespecting him" is just bullshit. Personally Serral still seems like the best player to me but given his lack of recent results (Blizzcon was 3 months ago) I think it's completely reasonable to put the player that has won the only big tournament this year at the top. Not sure what's there to get upset about... I am personally not upset as you might notice, I think Serral should figure as first in this list but soO is understandable. People overreacting are probably frustrated by the fact Serral never figured as #1 in a power ranking despite totally deserving it(it would have been unanimous for HSC, but TL's writers decided to make a humurous one instead). You are basically right, here. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
2 - stats 3 - maru 4 - soo 5 - dark 6 - TY 1 tournament win in which you barely edge out the #1 and #3 head to head in a big 1 time run doesn't make you the new number 1. Not even close imo. To me, a power ranking indicates who is the currently biggest favorite if blizzcon would happen now. You really think it's soO? Serral and Stats are the guys to beat. I can see soo being #3. €: did this list before seeing GSL group results of today. just proves my point. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15974 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:32 Xain0n wrote: I am personally not upset as you might notice, I think Serral should figure as first in this list but soO is understandable. People overreacting are probably frustrated by the fact Serral never figured as #1 in a power ranking despite totally deserving it(it would have been unanimous for HSC, but TL's writers decided to make a humurous one instead). You are basically right here. Yeah TL writers totally made a humorous PR for HSC to avoid putting Serral in first. I don't understand what's the big deal about him never being #1 in a PR. That's of course only because there wasn't one in the off-season. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:37 Charoisaur wrote: Yeah TL writers totally made a humorous PR for HSC to avoid putting Serral in first. I don't understand what's the big deal about him never being #1 in a PR. That's of course only because there wasn't one in the off-season. I am not saying TL made a humorous PR for HSC in order to avoid putting Serral as first; it just happened, right when Serral would have been #1 without any doubt. As for why people are upset, it would be another recognition of Serral's status of best player in the world, it doesn't feel right to always see him at #2. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:23 BlazingGlory wrote: Ok if we put soO in first just cause nothing else actually happened last three months, why not arrange the list the same as IEM? Stats 2nd, etc etc. Because the PR does consider consitency and map score as a valuable factor. But just not as much as the "Serral for 1rst"-fraction wants to. On March 09 2019 22:10 Xain0n wrote: the most successful player in 2018(according to TL, you know) Even TL can be wrong. Maru had a longer time of domination than Serral (6 months vs 4 months) facing tougher competition more often. On March 09 2019 22:32 Xain0n wrote: People overreacting are probably frustrated by the fact Serral never figured as #1 in a power ranking despite totally deserving it Serral did not totally deserve being figured #1 at the times the serious PRs were made. Before Blizzcon Maru's feat of 3 GSLs in a row was just too big to not rank him first. Now Serral's great sucess of last year is too long ago to give it enough impact for this PR. Bad luck. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 09 2019 23:24 fronkschnonk wrote: Because the PR does consider consitency and map score as a valuable factor. But just not as much as the "Serral for 1rst"-fraction wants to. Even TL can be wrong. Maru had a longer time of domination than Serral (6 months vs 4 months) facing tougher competition more often. Serral did not totally deserve being figured #1 at the times the serious PRs were made. Before Blizzcon Maru's feat of 3 GSLs in a row was just too big to not rank him first. Now Serral's great sucess of last year is too long ago to give it enough impact for this PR. Bad luck. My 2 cents is that if someone other than soO who was not part of the previous top 10 would have won(let's say Solar or Bunny), he would not be listed as #1 here; soO's breaking his Kong curse had a huge impact, bigger than the "merely" impressive IEM victory. I said very clearly that HSC's PR was the one that had to feature Serral as #1. As for Serral being crowned best player in 2018, my opinion is well known: he had a better year than Maru by a slight yet noticeable margin and TL rightgeously recognized that was the case. Maru, despite facing harder competition on average(the key here is how harder it was, that's where an objective approach dissipates), lost too often at the weekenders and too hard in the biggest tournament of the year to retain the throne. | ||
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terribleplayer1
95 Posts
This powerrank was ridiculous, if soO dominated the tournament maybe you put him as #1, but he played risky, lost a bunch, and happened to win. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
TL should release their ranks before big tournaments/finals instead of after. Ofc they will still find a way to screw it up tho  | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 10 2019 00:23 terribleplayer1 wrote: You people do realize that Serral did considerably better vs BETTER Koreans than Maru did last year right? In terms of win%. This powerrank was ridiculous, if soO dominated the tournament maybe you put him as #1, but he played risky, lost a bunch, and happened to win. You do realize Maru playing in Korea resulted in him playing them more often thus Serrals numbers may be just an accident because low number of games? Statistics need large pool of games. And somehow people disregard THE WHOLE year, e.g. the epic WESG where Serral lost to Maru Edit> Wrong tourney | ||
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