EPTOther than that meeting, Last has performed more consistent than rain.
Otherwise, a perfect power ranking!
BW Power Rank: November 2018 - Page 2
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
Other than that meeting, Last has performed more consistent than rain. Otherwise, a perfect power ranking! | ||
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
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Yanokabo
268 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2344 Posts
Or if we go by recent results, I'm pretty sure Last wins there too? EDIT: Oh, I read all of page one and then posted, and page two is a bunch of people saying this, lol EDITEDIT: Oh, I haven't watched the Blizzcon games yet. | ||
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Yanokabo
268 Posts
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razorsuKe
Canada1995 Posts
On November 06 2018 10:06 hiro protagonist wrote: Eh, just my opinion, but I'd put Last above Rain. Rain's win at bilzzcon is undermined by the fact sparkle was a map they played on. Other than that meeting, Last has performed more consistent than rain. Otherwise, a perfect power ranking! Except sparkle favors terran in TvP  SparkleSparkle kinda reversed the traditional race cycle by going P > Z > T > P | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On November 06 2018 12:18 razorsuKe wrote: Except sparkle favors terran in TvP SparkleSparkle kinda reversed the traditional race cycle by going P > Z > T > P Huh, I stand corrected. I have a memory of terrans getting destroyed by toss, but I must have only watched the losses | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On November 06 2018 10:17 Lazare1969 wrote: Rain vs. Last is a tough call because Last got 3rd place in ASL6 whereas Rain won KSL vs. ASL showmatch which appears to have no prize money. In KSL2 Rain won his group 3-1 while Last won 3-0. Also based on sponsored matches in 2018.10-2018.11 Last has an Elo rank of 1308 whereas Rain has 1217. Holy shit if you look at sorted by total winrate (I know Elo is better since it factors in opponents), the best Protoss that month is Rain at number 17 with a 55% winrate... damn | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3088 Posts
Other than that I agree with the rankings. EffOrt is number one so Eon doesn't have to go toxic in this thread. Thank God for that. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
On November 06 2018 09:44 Rodya wrote: Shuttle is too high ): Honestly though, after the last power ranking, I've lost the will to complain about these. Well I'll say one more thing - was JD really left out because he wont be playing in a LAN this month? Isn't that the kind of thing that might impact next month's power ranking? If you want to know why I think that Shuttle is too high: just look at his results - a solid group stage performance, and then barely getting past Action, who was not a true top 8 calibre player (though he had some exciting games including the Shuttle series). His match against Flash was really bad and his match against Last was more of the same. His results don't speak as a top 5 player - better to have Soulkey or JD there. What makes you say that Soulkey is a good top 5 player right now? I don't really get taht vibe from him, considering he almost choked to Mini and that KSL series just looked absolutely terrible from him. I really had him barely in the top 10 at like 8 or something, anything higher than that was being too generous. I even talked with Jaeyun at Blizzcon about this and we both sorta agreed Soulkey was kinda slumping a bit. I think at his full potential he's easily in the top 4/5 players in the scene right now behind EffOrt FlaSh Last but his games haven't been looking impressive at all. | ||
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TiQ.SinGi
Norway385 Posts
Loved Effort on that #1 spot. It is deserved and a true moment of history! | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12021 Posts
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ortseam
996 Posts
On November 06 2018 15:00 NoS-Craig wrote: I would've put Last over Rain. Third world and Sparkle are very strong protoss maps. Especially Sparkle, which in my opinion should be renamed to 'lol protoss wins'. Literally two posts above you it is explained that Sparkle is T>P , actually just as much as Third World is P>T. Maps were fine, Rain just played better | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17712 Posts
On November 06 2018 07:57 thezanursic wrote: "Most recently, he beat Last in a flawless 3-1 in the KSL vs. ASL showmatch." Not to say the win wasn't impressive, but 3-1 is by definition, not flawless This. Also Love him or hate him, everyone loves a good underdog. No. If people hate him, then not everyone loves Shuttle, the underdog. Some slightly wonky writing on this one  | ||
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
In all ASL 5 maps, Transistor was the only one broken in terms of PvT balance. But yeah sometimes mapmakers get it wrong; like how Camelot and Gold Rush were very Terran favoured. Other than that, Sparkle favours Terran, 3rd World favours Protoss, and Gladiator is about even. Honestly for a tournament with two concept maps, in terms of TvP it was pretty amazing. And besides, it's not like tournaments of the past had super balanced maps. The real balance issue in ASL 5 maps was the ZvP balance, which skewed crazily in favour of Protoss (Sparkle, 3rd World). Gladiator favoured Zerg slightly, and Transistor favoured Zerg a little more. So bravo to Hero for making 3rd place. In short, ASL 5 wasn't a "Let's make sure Protoss wins this one" as much as "Let's see how well Protoss does when Zergs are decimated." I feel like I made this post a dozen times, but yeah. Flash and Last lost because they were outplayed, not because of the maps. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On the bright side, now we just wait for EffOrt to dethrone himself with his play in future tournaments and Flash will go back to #1 again haha. | ||
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Ty2
United States1433 Posts
On November 06 2018 21:11 Acrofales wrote: This. Also No. If people hate him, then not everyone loves Shuttle, the underdog. Some slightly wonky writing on this one Yah some silly mistakes on my part. I didn't catch them all. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5566 Posts
 I said this last time, but I don't think willfully skipping a tournament should mean very much for the power rank. The power rank is (or at least was) never about who has the best results right now, its more like who are the scariest players right now. And Jeadong is one of the absolute scariest players. Thanks for the ranking though, Big Fan! | ||
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rackdude
United States882 Posts
But Last lost because the Sparkle was Protoss favored? Logic is missing from this statement. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
Sparkle definitely favored T in TvP with all Terrans going Wraith/Valks against Corsairs. I thought Effort’s ASL6 interview was interesting when he said the best PvZ player he feared the most was Mini. Mini must be amazing online but I agree he chokes in tournaments every time. He sounds like a poor loser that can’t mentally get past his early game mistakes. I always like Best a lot and I think he is underrated. Can letmelose tell us something about how Best playstyle is different from Rain, Snow, Mini, and Shuttle? Thanks. | ||
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