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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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byj
493 Posts
On October 22 2018 21:50 prplhz wrote: Because I voted him? This game is too inactive for shennanie or WIFOM and all this, scum shoot to kill someone who will vote them. Not trying to defend him, but I disagree with your reasoning. So if DF had been shot, I'd have been Scum? You think they went after you because you voted for them, instead of you seeming townie, and then hoping for a lynch onto me (or UoN if he is townie)? Also I just got confirmation, apparently it's in the OP, Mafia cannot hold their shot. This makes you confirmed townie for me ( only other possibility would be having a Roleblocker and blocking themselves, which sounds way too unlikely to me, since then I'd expect something like a town cop). | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Your argument is essentially "but WIFOM", and I totally get it, but it's unlikely, especially in a small game (and LYLO), where every single vote and opinion weighs a lot more. Scum would rather kill someone voting for them than kill someone voting for a townie. ruXxar and me are top townies and we want to lynch [UoN]Sentinel, a single bad town vote can lose us the game. I like that you're talking and thinking about the lynch, but keep all this in mind. | ||
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byj
493 Posts
On October 21 2018 07:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I couldn't've prevented that Idk why he feels like 'defending' himself there On October 21 2018 07:08 darthfoley wrote: Idek what to make of the votes. So spread. "I don't want to give an opinion" Makes me think those two are likely our Scum, but I cannot say for sure that Koshi and ruXxar are town. ##Vote: darthfoley | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On October 22 2018 23:03 byj wrote: Idk why he feels like 'defending' himself there "I don't want to give an opinion" Makes me think those two are likely our Scum, but I cannot say for sure that Koshi and ruXxar are town. ##Vote: darthfoley Guess you missed this post On October 22 2018 01:42 darthfoley wrote: byj & sentinel scum team gg? Maybe it's that simple lol It doesn't help that you are lumping Sentinel in with me but then immediately targeting me for flimsy reasoning. Protecting your broski? | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On October 22 2018 22:14 prplhz wrote: No, but you'd obviously be under suspicion. I mean, like you say, no one has to be scum, it just happens to be that [UoN]Sentinel looks scummy since his first post and then the guy who tries to lynch him gets shot and here we are. Your argument is essentially "but WIFOM", and I totally get it, but it's unlikely, especially in a small game (and LYLO), where every single vote and opinion weighs a lot more. Scum would rather kill someone voting for them than kill someone voting for a townie. ruXxar and me are top townies and we want to lynch [UoN]Sentinel, a single bad town vote can lose us the game. I like that you're talking and thinking about the lynch, but keep all this in mind. Agreed which is why Sentinel is probably just scum who got unlucky with the role distribution | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On October 21 2018 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I don't accept circular references. Or smug assertions. I actually agree with this: And since you're the only one talking, and I have no idea who scum is, the best thing I can do is keep my vote on you to keep you talking. I still think this is one of the weirdest and lamest vote justifications I've ever seen | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
DAY 2 VOTING [UoN]Sentinel (3): ruXxar, prplhz, darthfoley darthfoley(1): byj [UoN]Sentinel is set to be lynched Day 2 ends Tuesday, Oct 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in | ||
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byj
493 Posts
On October 23 2018 00:19 darthfoley wrote: It doesn't help that you are lumping Sentinel in with me but then immediately targeting me for flimsy reasoning. Protecting your broski? Care to tell us your reasoning?  | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
My reasoning about what? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
As of right now Koshi is still absent and has been since Day 1. What he says when he gets back will probably affect a lot of what I have to say. For that matter, the only time I can tell town Koshi and scum Koshi apart is when he spams up the thread because it's obvious when he tries to find mafia and when he doesn't. Moving on. byj is an interesting case because HF formed the bulk of the vote on him. That said, aside from hopping on the HF wagon his posts seem to indicate more letting others start the discussion and then hopping in with his own contribution. Once prplhz starts engaging him his posts get a lot more expository and contributing to finding scum. Or people who look like scum. But for now he looks green to me. As far as I know prplhz has never pulled off something on the level of being town and claiming a different town role for some sort of advantage to town. Tell me if I'm wrong. Which means we're in one of two universes. Either prplhz is actually vet and he did get shot (or there's a very lucky doctor in the game, but that doesn't affect this case) or he's scum and they shot someone else who was saved by doctor (because no vet counterclaim). So which universe is more likely? On October 22 2018 21:50 prplhz wrote: Because I voted him? This game is too inactive for shennanie or WIFOM and all this, scum shoot to kill someone who will vote them. I would disagree with this half of the sentence. Scum shooting someone who will vote for them becomes more obvious, not less, whenever there isn't any activity in the thread. It becomes blatantly obvious because it's at most 1 or 2 pages apart. Especially in the case where you are prplhz and you spend the entire day with your vote on me and even in the midst of Holyflare vs byj voting you not only don't change your vote but repeat in the thread that you think I am more scum than Holyflare (or byj). Which is a pretty towny course of action. Now of course if prplhz is scum he can tunnel the scummiest looking towny all day (yours truly - by design). But that would mean byj is town. Any one additional vote on him would set him to be lynched. And nobody aside from HF and darthfoley even hedged on byj being scum beforehand. Again, it's a small game with 9 pages and counting. If you want to save your buddy you'd have to come out of the woodwork ASAP (unless scumteam is darthfoley/byj - but then prplhz is not scum). The scum case is definitely more WIFOMy and convoluted than the town case. Combine that with being one of the few players trying to earnestly make logical sense (incorrectly - I'm town) of the first day/night, which in this game is the closest thing to actual substance. On the other hand: ruXxar has said nothing of substance this entire game. What separates him from Palmar and Koshi is that he's been posting throughout. In fact he calls me scum yet doesn't vote for me until 1) prplhz does, and 2) prplhz claims vet without counterclaim, making him the greenest living player. Whether or not prplhz is actually green, we're perceiving him to be green right now. And riding on the coattails of that without taking any sort of risk is scummy behavior. Especially since green prplhz vouching for ruXxar makes him seem greener by association in the event that I get lynched. If you're set on believing that I'm scum, keep in mind that he didn't commit his vote until there was no other possible candidate - HF is dead and byj is participating more - for him to lynch. As if he wanted me to attempt to dig myself out of my hole first while distancing from me, and then once he himself was safe and I was a lost cause, he put his vote on me. Then he can do this: On October 22 2018 17:29 ruXxar wrote: Btw koshi no longer super detective. Pls kill. And push for inactive/safe lynches assuming this game goes into D3. Darthfoley is the second scum for pretty much the same reasons although he's been saying more (still piggybacking on me w/o original ideas which I don't like). But I'm less sure of this read than I am of the previous one. ##Vote: ruXxar | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Two things that outweigh that IMO: 1) The possibility of a doctor (if I was host and had a 9 player setup reduced to 8, I'd kick town an extra blue role to compensate, but that's just me) 2) Being able to lynch as 3-3 or 3-2 if fucking Koshi doesn't come back to the game | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
At the price of there being a 50% increase of wrong players one could vote for | ||
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byj
493 Posts
Obviously for On October 22 2018 01:42 darthfoley wrote: byj & sentinel scum team gg? Maybe it's that simple lol | ||
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byj
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byj
493 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On October 23 2018 08:22 byj wrote: Zzz, guess it's time for me to go sleep again... and wake up to an empty thread What are your thoughts on my effortpost | ||
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byj
493 Posts
On October 23 2018 08:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What are your thoughts on my effortpost + Show Spoiler + TL;DR I agree with you on DF, Koshi and prplhz, but I got no clue about ruXxar. I hate to say it, but it made you seem less scummy. But still what you said after the lynch makes you seem so scummy... even riding onto another lynch with HF is something beneficial for Scum I'd say, and something I'd do. Assuming you get it you have the chance to upgrade from a VT to a power role, and once pressed about changing the vote you could argue that it's because you think that HF was town - and thus implying lynch votes onto you are misdirected and should be onto HF if they really think he's scum... maybe I'm reading way too much into it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I'll go to sleep for real now, looking forward to hearing from you Koshi and ruXxar | ||
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byj
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