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On October 23 2018 09:39 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2018 08:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On October 23 2018 08:22 byj wrote:Zzz, guess it's time for me to go sleep again... and wake up to an empty thread  What are your thoughts on my effortpost + Show Spoiler +I agree with you on DF, Koshi and prplhz, but I got no clue about ruXxar. I hate to say it, but it made you seem less scummy. But still what you said after the lynch makes you seem so scummy... even riding onto another lynch with HF is something beneficial for Scum I'd say, and something I'd do. Assuming you get it you have the chance to upgrade from a VT to a power role, and once pressed about changing the vote you could argue that it's because you think that HF was town - and thus implying lynch votes onto you are misdirected and should be onto HF if they really think he's scum... maybe I'm reading way too much into it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I'll go to sleep for real now, looking forward to hearing from you Koshi and ruXxar
My D1 plan was pretty simple:
1) Lynch any good source of information. Especially in a game this inactive I have absolutely no idea who's town and who's scum (most of) D1. Whoever we lynch, hopefully it's contentious enough that we get different wagons. Maybe even if we lynched Palmar in absentia (like over the course of the day, not rapidly at the end), we would've had a productive conversation about it.
BUT lynching someone like HF who has said a lot of stuff will give us lots of information. If we lynch Palmar he has said nothing and the fact that he is town gives us no additional information (besides how people voted and why). If we lynch HF we get all that and we get to see lots of confirmed town posts. If he turned out to be scum we just stopped scum from running the thread in their frame.
And you might ask "why didn't you lynch your scum reads instead?" which is the ideal town strat right? Right now my most probable scumteam is ruXxar and darthfoley. I would have no idea besides a very light suspicion on DF that those two were scum. Probably someone else would be an idiot or I'd somehow convince myself Koshi was scum and I'd get a towny lynched even if I had my way.
2) Get a wagon on me. First of all mafia is way more fun when everyone is talking about you. But second from my perspective I had no idea what to make of the game so I wanted to reduce the number of variables. Towns generally give more risky and more substantial arguments for lynching someone. Scums either tag along or have to frame the argument in which the target (me) is scum and ignore the one in which the target is not scum. I've used it before to varying success but usually it helps more than it hurts.
Maybe it makes it a little more ass to play a game with me - I don't know, you tell me about that one.
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On October 23 2018 10:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Whoever we lynch, hopefully it's contentious enough that we get different wagons. Maybe even if we lynched Palmar in absentia (like over the course of the day, not rapidly at the end), we would've had a productive conversation about it.
Though wouldn't any other person have fit that purpose?
I would have no idea besides a very light suspicion on DF that those two were scum. Probably someone else would be an idiot or I'd somehow convince myself Koshi was scum and I'd get a towny lynched even if I had my way.
How did HF's flip help you with a read onto DF/raX?
Maybe it makes it a little more ass to play a game with me - I don't know, you tell me about that one.
Nah
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Oh and 10h left in the day
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On October 23 2018 21:11 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2018 10:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Whoever we lynch, hopefully it's contentious enough that we get different wagons. Maybe even if we lynched Palmar in absentia (like over the course of the day, not rapidly at the end), we would've had a productive conversation about it. Though wouldn't any other person have fit that purpose? Show nested quote +
I would have no idea besides a very light suspicion on DF that those two were scum. Probably someone else would be an idiot or I'd somehow convince myself Koshi was scum and I'd get a towny lynched even if I had my way.
How did HF's flip help you with a read onto DF/raX? Show nested quote +Maybe it makes it a little more ass to play a game with me - I don't know, you tell me about that one. Nah
Correct. But I believe HF gave us the most info. In hindsight lynching you could've also been optimal since HF could exonerate himself as suspect number one, and then we could do the same analysis. Others didn't say enough to really reveal much if they got lynched and flip town IMO.
But HF got lynched and that simplified the vote to the question if you are scum or not. If you are, then mafia had skin in the game. If not, then they could relax. Working backwards from there and my assumption is that DF is red and you are green. That ruX is scum is evident from his filter.
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On October 23 2018 05:45 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:On October 23 2018 01:29 byj wrote:On October 23 2018 00:19 darthfoley wrote:
It doesn't help that you are lumping Sentinel in with me but then immediately targeting me for flimsy reasoning. Protecting your broski? Care to tell us your reasoning? My reasoning about what? Obviously for Show nested quote +On October 22 2018 01:42 darthfoley wrote:
byj & sentinel scum team gg? Maybe it's that simple lol
I mean, you both voted on confirmed town people, and now you're calling him scummy but kind of backhandedly while trying to lynch me. Feels like you're trying to start another wagon on me, while simultaneously trying to distance yourself if Sentinel gets lynched. If you lynch me, gg mafia wins. If Sentinel gets lynched, you can at least say "aw shucks, I knew it!!"
Makes good sense considering you would win with one mislynch.
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On October 23 2018 09:39 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2018 08:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On October 23 2018 08:22 byj wrote:Zzz, guess it's time for me to go sleep again... and wake up to an empty thread What are your thoughts on my effortpost + Show Spoiler +I agree with you on DF, Koshi and prplhz, but I got no clue about ruXxar. I hate to say it, but it made you seem less scummy. But still what you said after the lynch makes you seem so scummy... even riding onto another lynch with HF is something beneficial for Scum I'd say, and something I'd do. Assuming you get it you have the chance to upgrade from a VT to a power role, and once pressed about changing the vote you could argue that it's because you think that HF was town - and thus implying lynch votes onto you are misdirected and should be onto HF if they really think he's scum... maybe I'm reading way too much into it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I'll go to sleep for real now, looking forward to hearing from you Koshi and ruXxar
Why do you hate to say this? If he's less scummy, that should be a good thing right? This wording sticks out to me as stilted and awkward
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I would appreciate Koshi providing some level of analysis though... ever
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Doing work all day but I'll be able to keep an eye on the thread from 5 hours before to 20 minutes after the deadline (1-6:20 eastern)
In the meantime, DF, could you tell me
1. Do you have any thoughts on my big post on the last page?
2. Who's your current scum team?
3. Of the other 3 people, why do you think they are more town than your 2 scum picks?
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byj you as well although you've answered #1, and you said you agree DF is scum and prplhz is town. Of me, Koshi and ruXxar who do you think is the second scum and why?
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On October 23 2018 23:12 darthfoley wrote:
I mean, you both voted on confirmed town people
Sorry, I must've missed our Town Cop vetting HF
, and now you're calling him scummy but kind of backhandedly while trying to lynch me.
You are playing for more scummier, and what do you want me to do, push you whilst voting for Sent???
Feels like you're trying to start another wagon on me, while simultaneously trying to distance yourself if Sentinel gets lynched. If you lynch me, gg mafia wins. If Sentinel gets lynched, you can at least say "aw shucks, I knew it!!"
Makes good sense considering you would win with one mislynch.
Makes no sense, assuming he's Scum, why would I want to distance myself from his lynch?
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On October 23 2018 23:15 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you hate to say this? If he's less scummy, that should be a good thing right? This wording sticks out to me as stilted and awkward
Yeah, getting less sure on your scum reads sure is a great thing.
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On October 23 2018 23:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
byj you as well although you've answered #1, and you said you agree DF is scum and prplhz is town. Of me, Koshi and ruXxar who do you think is the second scum and why?
I initially had you as 2nd scum, but your thread play seems somewhat townie now, although that might be because of the lack of involvement from anybody else... I don't know if Koshi's or raX's inactivity is because they can just sit back and win, or are actually not reading the thread. My most solid scum read now is DF
Also as it is now it looks like Koshi will get mod killed, so if he turns out to be town the game is over either way
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(fuck I completely forgot about this, sorry guys)
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I am here. Just done with dinner. Going home soon. Sry for absence. Could have played this afternoon but decided against it.
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I will reread sentinel his big post and think about it.
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I need to watch df and byj interactions and see how likely they are mafia togzther.
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