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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On July 04 2008 02:36 Ace wrote: for next game can there be a strict time limit on sending in hits for Mafia? 3 months of game time murdered this game. These past few weeks have been more me being busy with work/school than mafia not sending in hits early enough. Next game will be much different and it will be a lot smaller to make the game move faster. | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 04 2008 02:36 Ace wrote: What i find to be very interesting is that the mafia were active (e.g L, Bockit) yet the lists were latefor next game can there be a strict time limit on sending in hits for Mafia? 3 months of game time murdered this game. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 02 2008 09:13 nemY wrote: I was going to make another long post, but seeing as no one even cares enough to vote anymore, let alone post (you don't count, nemY: I'm talking about townies), it's not worth it. Briefly, then:Obviously I can't unconvince you of your mistakes qrs, but please do take a second to analyze my information ok? I never said that BWdero was not mafia, I merely pointed out the fact that Chuiu is unlikely to use information that appears in multiple characters. You say there are no clues related to his name? How about just "Dero" then seeing as how BW can easily be interpreted as "Brood Wars"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dero I poured over this content already and found nothing that could specifically tie Cottonmouth to BWdero. It should be noted in one post that Cottonmouth was dressed "shabbily"... another clue I see as baring no connection to BWdero. Regardless of this, I don't discount him given the plethora of circumstantial evidence mounted against him, I just feel there are stronger suspects at the moment... mainly Scorch as Mr. Blond (which once again no one has yet to comment on  )I never said that BWdero was not mafia, I merely pointed out the fact that Chuiu is unlikely to use information that appears in multiple characters. Stop willfully misunderstanding me. You pointed out that the 15th of a month for a birthday appeared for multiple characters. I clearly said that BWdero has the 15th for both birthday and joined date. Find someone else in the game who fits that and I'll start listening to you. You say there are no clues related to his name? How about just "Dero" then seeing as how BW can easily be interpreted as "Brood Wars"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dero You're right about that: my bad. That does slightly reduce the strength of my case against him, but I still feel that it is a strong case. It should be noted in one post that Cottonmouth was dressed "shabbily"... another clue I see as baring no connection to BWdero. Well, actually, now that you've linked to that wikipedia page, dressed "shabbily" would fit in rather well with the Australian slang for "derelict person". Finally, I'd like to urge everyone to vote for someone on the Showtime! list next lynch, so that we don't have another useless lynch like yesterday's. The showtime! list offers the best odds by far, and if we somehow hit a townie (i.e. if we don't lynch nemY), the odds will shoot up even higher, so it won't be a completely wasted lynch. I think that the obvious lynch from there is nemY (mirror kills, out of nowhere--"I don't know where you are", doing his best to defend BWdero, etc.) but if you don't agree, lynch someone else on the list. Lynch me, if you want. But lynch someone from that list. And if he comes up green, look at nemY again. And nemY, like I said to suresh0t: if you're actually a townie, I apologize in advance. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On July 04 2008 05:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Can someone please get this uncomfortable rake out of my nether-regions? No Shallow, just no. It's a good look for you. I think you should start a new fab. on another side note: qrs, you are so bad at this it isn't even funny >_< | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 04 2008 09:44 nemY wrote: Apology accepted faggot we'll see. and showtime, you're hardly one to talk. Go back to being dead. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On July 04 2008 10:15 qrs wrote: we'll see. and showtime, you're hardly one to talk. Go back to being dead. I kind of doubt that, since I doubt I'll be lynched ;D | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
from page 317 On June 26 2008 23:48 qrs wrote: In terms of actual clues, the main piece of evidence is Camlito's connection of Mr. Blonde to a mirror (link). Not all of it was compelling, but I found this one pretty convincing: Show nested quote + Camlito wrote: Clue 5: Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie. Ok this one is too obvious, they are mirroring each others' movements and style as if it's planned out. Specifically, Cottonmouth has been the only one killing with 15 weapons a night--until Mr. Blonde shows up with him. -While from an initial look through it, it does look suspicious given the mirror theory, but really look at it... Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth kill their targets with 15 knives a piece, but place them in different places in their targets (Cottonmouth carves a Pentagram into his target... possible lead there eh? dunno who though ). Mr. Blonde simply follows a set pattern.-Mr. Blonde charges through the convenience store door smashing it and the surrounding windows. I'm assuming it's a glass door he charged through it, smashed it, and well it's a convenience store right? I don't see how or where that connects anywhere to my profile To that, I'll add a weaker clue: Mr. Blonde's whole "out of nowhere" theme that some were connecting with Ninja early on may connect with nemY's profile quote ("~But I don't know where you are now~"). -I don't buy this as a clue for two reasons. One, the connection with the actual statement is sorely misaligned. I forget the term for this, but the connection is surely out of line. "But I don't know where you are now" != "out of nowhere" does it? -second of all... that quote wasn't in my profile when the game originally started. Read araav's post on page 20 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=20 and you'll see quite plainly that the quote was not there. Would Chuiu start adding information about mafia depending on how they edit their profile as the game goes on? Debatable, I don't really know, but it doesn't matter since the first set of mafia kills were on page 18, where Mr. Blonde makes an appearance... coming out of nowhere! Unless you find something that really links my profile quote with Mr. Blonde's theme I would disregard it. Circumstantial evidence: Camlito was killed soon after he presented his nemY theory. We know that the Mafia likes to kill the good clue-analysts (for good reason). Was Camlito getting too close to the truth? Circumstantial is the key here. People have fingered me as mafia and ended up dying shortly there after (Camlito did, Alethios did... although he was joking I know that), people have fingered me as mafia and ended up not dying shortly thereafter, but nonetheless are dead now (Plexa, MTF, a few others I'm sure), people have fingered me as mafia and are still alive today (you (qrs), jtan, BuGz if you want to count him I guess), and many now confirmed mafia have fingered me as mafia (clazz, randombum, suresh0t... I suppose you could count L voting for me as pointing me out, but I don't really buy it). You're stubbornness here appears to be making you miss the bigger picture. And finally, this wouldn't hold up in a court of law, but I just find nemY's posts suspicious. I know that he and suresh0t were at each other's throats near the end, but IMO that was just a desperate Mafia ploy. Split the camps, like Jacob in the Bible: And it shall be that if the townies fall upon one mafioso and smite him that the other mafioso shall be for a remnant. -Like I've said before, the same thing applies to you. Hell people have been suspecting you via your posting for who knows how long. Most people's posting at this point seems somewhat suspicious and having a double meaning at this point =/. You claim that suresh0t and I were doing some sort of desperate mafia ploy, but I've known suresh0t was mafia for a long time now (I voted for him on days 9 and 10... you should know this given that you voted for him too on day 10). Wanna know why I voted for suresh0t and clazz back then? Read about it on page 267. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=267 Like you know, it's been frustrating to get support to lynch suresh0t... but once I was able to I PUSHED FOR IT LIKE A MOFO On June 29 2008 10:55 qrs wrote: I feel so...predictable. edit: just because nemY points it out doesn't mean it isn't true. It is a mirror kill. Think about that. Once again this falls under the same thing as the Mr. Blonde / Cottonmouth killing. The general conclusion would be that this is another mirror killing, but really look at the details. In the dark shed in ShaLLoW[baY]'s backyard Mr. Blonde gleefully waiting in silence clutching his weapon -nothing of glee, hope, happiness, even smiling can be connected to my profile Mr. Blonde swatting ShaLLoW[baY] with the front end of the yard tool causing him to stumble backward into a trap Mr. Blonde had set of several nails on the ground. Having punctured his foot on a rather rusty one ShaLLoW[baY] began hopping frantically trying to pry the devil from his foot as he screamed in pain -I don't recall any of this happening in the lynch/raping of Bockit Mr. Blonde used this opportunity to maneuver himself behind his victim and he killed ShaLLoW[baY] in one swift vengeful blow by shoving the rake up his ass. -every townie raped Bockit with the rake, hence multiple... rapings lol; there is only one rape here, and it's the true Mr. Blonde (HotZhot) raping ShaLLoW[baY] One more thing to consider, I don't see how Days 1, 2, 5, 7, 13, 15, and 16 connect with the whole mirror theory. I think I may have mentioned Day 13 as possibly being connected, but even that connection seems weak. Wow sorry I was going to keep going, but I'ma sleep for now. I'll continue this later. One final thing to consider... On May 08 2008 04:40 HotZhot wrote: That mr.blonde sure is one though individual, just won't die. Come on Ace, Plexa who to vote for? stupid finals On June 01 2008 04:45 HotZhot wrote: the pardoner functions like one and we are gonna depend on him now, btw how come mr blonde is still alive? i've been saying the past 11 days or so | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
*Engage Haunting* muahahahaha! | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 04 2008 18:12 nemY wrote: Perhaps you can explain your reasoning to me and everyone else as to why you are so sure I'm Mr. Blonde. I'd really like to get this settled once and for all. All right, I'll try. 1) You say that the "mirror kills" are not exact duplications of each other. I don't buy that argument. As it is, the essential things are mirrored: e.g. the number of knives, which is Cottonmouth's signature. True, the pattern isn't mirrored, but the pattern doesn't seem to be important anyway--Cottonmouth himself doesn't follow any particular pattern from night to night. Similarly, not all of the details of shallow's kill correspond to bockit's but the central feature (the rake up the rectum) is the same. If Chuiu made these kills exact duplicates, down to every detail, the clue would be too obvious. 2) You point out that not all of the clues on all the days can be connected to you. That's true enough, but I haven't seen them connected to anyone else either. You don't connect the glass-smashing to HotZhot, for instance. Even suresh0t, who we were both pretty sure was Mafia--I don't know how all of the clues were meant to finger him. Chuiu's ways are subtle, and we cannot hope to fathom all of them. If someone made a good case for someone else as Mr. Blonde, and he managed to connect all of the clues to him, I'd be listening. 3) You say that when the phrase "out of nowhere" appeared, you didn't have "I don't know where you are now" in your profile. Maybe that's true, but we only have your word for it. The post from araav's that you point to only lists profile information including signatures, but not the "public profile". 4) You point out that the Camlito thing is circumstantial, which certainly it is. Part of the reason that the Camlito kill stands out to me is that he was on the Mandalor list, which the Mafia had good reason to avoid as much as possible. But of course this is not conclusive. 5) You point out that you were against suresh0t for quite a long time--longer than I had remembered, actually. I'll concede that that does reduce the suspicion against you to a degree. 6) The suspicious posts? I guess I shouldn't have said anything about that unless I could clarify what I meant by it. Basically, it was just your generally schizophrenic posting style, going between kinda useless posts like no map yo~ MH off 18 nom~ ssi bal se ke No Oblivion please TOO EASY GG BITCHES ALL YOU HATERS SAYING I'M MAFIA ( JTAN, QRS (LOL YOU'RE SO FUCKING RETARDED, SAYING SURESH0T IS MAFIA AND VOTING FOR ME LOL), BUGZ, AND OF COURSE SURESH0T) CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK. BITCHES LIKE I'M FUCKING MAFIA NOW. ANYONE ELSE THAT'S MAFIA WANNA POINT THE FINGER AT ME? HOW ABOUT YOU JTAN? and posts that were actually somewhat helpful to the town. Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone that your posts should sound suspicious--that was just my own reaction.7) In any case, I think that the town should lynch someone from the showtime list next time, whether it's you, me, or someone else for the simple reasons that a) at this point it offers the best odds of getting a mafioso b) if we hit a townie, the odds go up much higher of getting the mafioso the next time, since the list is so small c) if we kill the mafia on that list, we immediately gain some information about who is innocent (as opposed to the other lists, which each have two mafiosi left on them). 8) I'm going to leave it at that. Guilty or innocent, nemY, I shall harass you no longer. I'm tired of being Cassandra. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:02 qrs wrote: 3) You say that when the phrase "out of nowhere" appeared, you didn't have "I don't know where you are now" in your profile. Maybe that's true, but we only have your word for it. The post from araav's that you point to only lists profile information including signatures, but not the "public profile". http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=71784 | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:02 qrs wrote: 3) You say that when the phrase "out of nowhere" appeared, you didn't have "I don't know where you are now" in your profile. Maybe that's true, but we only have your word for it. The post from araav's that you point to only lists profile information including signatures, but not the "public profile". Oh wow haha I didn't even check that out >.< | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
Btw thanks for finding the rest of the picture and the hentai, been looking for it forever | ||
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