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Chinese Vase Inscriptions
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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YokoKano
United States612 Posts
china has a very complex causal map compared to the western world, with a vast unexplored second level ante-dating the pyramids. great wars were fought in the dawn of marijuana smoking using magickal powers far beyond the diminutive power of modern man. only with the aid of the egyptian witch doctors could the space:time:mind ratio be shattered and unbound as the pre-hindu religions discovered meditation, creating a permanent lock to the time:mind ratio. finally the pyramids were constructed as edifices to flesh and blood, ceiling for a time the fate of earth in a space:time-mind ratio called the golden ratio. the beginning work of the unbinding followed with the primitive space-time relationship of the desert wastes wherein mescaline provided a lightspeed isotope. mescaline began the work of disassembling the space-capsules called pyramids, gradually loosing the 12,000 year hold meditative technique had ingrained on the time-mind relation. it was entirely necessary to place the meditative hold on the time-mind relation to develop space-faring spatial vehicles... thus only recently... | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
It's like trying to read the essence of Chinese before the characters took form. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On January 17 2017 13:57 IntoTheEmo wrote: It's like trying to read the essence of Chinese before the characters took form. Well, that's a really interesting way to put it, and in fact I think I should give a little more info about the vase, because frankly you might be right. The person I bought this vase from specializes in importing antiques from China, and somehow he managed to bring this monstrosity across the world. He didn't speak much English so there was very little that I could get out of him as to the origin of the vase or what it says. All I could gather was that it's a few words from a philosopher. I could not really understand the name, and while I asked him to write it down, it was his personal transliteration that didn't Google well. It looked phonetically similar to Lao Tzu, but different enough that I really couldn't tell if there was any similarity whatsoever. I took a look at the inside of the vase as well. While it's clear that it was once glazed, most of the inside was reduced to a very bland ceramic rubble. There were layers of glaze that were partially intact (and the top of it was very much intact), but it certainly showed signs of age. I guess it's probably too much to hope for for someone here to be well-versed in ancient Chinese writing - would be cool if someone is though, haha. In any case, looks like at the very least I learned something interesting about the vase. | ||
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YokoKano
United States612 Posts
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cakepie
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On January 17 2017 15:13 LegalLord wrote: All I could gather was that it's a few words from a philosopher. I could not really understand the name, and while I asked him to write it down, it was his personal transliteration that didn't Google well. It looked phonetically similar to Lao Tzu, but different enough that I really couldn't tell if there was any similarity whatsoever. This information might be useful if you could provide it. Someone who knows philosophers and their sayings well might then be able to make a guess at it. It's easier to decipher the calligraphy if you have some idea what you're looking for. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Unless it was a phonetic naming of Confucius that I couldn't recognize, Lao Tzu is probably the most likely person to fit that description. I also had a rather interesting mount that came with the vase, made out of what is probably red resin. I didn't use it, but I can take photos of it when I get home, in case the artwork would help someone figure it out. | ||
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ArmadA[NaS]
United States346 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AeKzBku.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kBzTDjS.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jtFutCL.jpg) Until I get better information I guess I'm just going to assume that the writing on the jar is a magical sealing spell to hold a demon sorcerer. Evidently no one would be able to contradict me on that. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On January 18 2017 16:13 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: If I get a chance I'll ask some of the exchange students from China at my university if they can figure it out. No idea if they'll be able to though I've done that too. At this point I think I need a scholar, lol. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On January 19 2017 10:13 LegalLord wrote: I've done that too. At this point I think I need a scholar, lol. antiques roadshow ever come by where you live? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
怒发冲冠，凭栏处，潇潇雨歇。抬望眼，仰天长啸，壮怀激烈。三十功名尘与土，八千里路云和月。莫等闲，白了少年头，空悲切。 靖康耻，犹未雪；臣子恨，何时灭？驾长车，踏破贺兰山缺。壮志饥餐胡虏肉，笑谈渴饮匈奴血。待从头，收拾旧山河，朝天阙！ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Jiang_Hong If you look at the third picture you can see the column on the right matches the words "八千里路云和月". | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On January 19 2017 12:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's not an archaic dialect, it's just cursive Chinese. I asked my mother and she told me it's the following poem by Yue Fei (岳飛). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Jiang_Hong If you look at the third picture you can see the column on the right matches the words "八千里路云和月". I recognize the name. I think you solved the mystery. Thanks a bunch! | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On January 17 2017 08:18 YokoKano wrote: no one really knows how language works man. it's recursive relation between you, the writer, the world, and other variables too. the vase might say exactly what it's supposed to say given the time, context, and recent change of ownership. expensive calligraphy jobs wont reveal their intended meaning until presented to a TL scholar of sufficient experience, age, and merit. china has a very complex causal map compared to the western world, with a vast unexplored second level ante-dating the pyramids. great wars were fought in the dawn of marijuana smoking using magickal powers far beyond the diminutive power of modern man. only with the aid of the egyptian witch doctors could the space:time:mind ratio be shattered and unbound as the pre-hindu religions discovered meditation, creating a permanent lock to the time:mind ratio. finally the pyramids were constructed as edifices to flesh and blood, ceiling for a time the fate of earth in a space:time-mind ratio called the golden ratio. the beginning work of the unbinding followed with the primitive space-time relationship of the desert wastes wherein mescaline provided a lightspeed isotope. mescaline began the work of disassembling the space-capsules called pyramids, gradually loosing the 12,000 year hold meditative technique had ingrained on the time-mind relation. it was entirely necessary to place the meditative hold on the time-mind relation to develop space-faring spatial vehicles... thus only recently... I wish I could make this my TL quote. This whole thing. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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