On September 29 2016 03:17 Xatalos wrote: Skynx's static non-reaction to my biggest contribution so far ("still scum because OMGUS, nothing will ever change that!") makes me quite sure that he has to be scum.
If you're still not convinced, read this with some thought and then look at Skynx's filter:
On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote: Skynx Soft-defended Lunatic, ignored him or counter-pushed away from him on several occasions during D1 (see ptmc's eventlist for easy details, just search for "Skynx" lines in red text, or read his filter). Never pressured Lunatic or contributed to his lynch either (no, the one-liner "Lunatic had the worst intro post I guess" didn't impact his own or anyone else's play during D1). A Lunatic/Skynx scumteam makes the most sense to me.
I commented on your push and why it was crap and why it made you scum. Your comment on it pretty much ignored everything I put on the table and just said OMGUS. Therefore you painting me as "static non-reaction" is just hilarious.
I agree I presented your filter's ugly truths badly earlier, but it doesn't make me scum. The core of my suspicion on you came from reading ptmc's list of your actions on D1, which were about all scum-aligned. I should have just listed those, but for some reason I went looking for additional things that weren't very damning. Keep it simple, stupid
ptmc's list was good, but I already addressed those. They weren't OMGUS at all, you seem to be the only one thinking so anyway.
It is OMGUS if the only reason to push someone is that they pushed you.
On September 29 2016 03:17 Xatalos wrote: Skynx's static non-reaction to my biggest contribution so far ("still scum because OMGUS, nothing will ever change that!") makes me quite sure that he has to be scum.
If you're still not convinced, read this with some thought and then look at Skynx's filter:
On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote: Skynx Soft-defended Lunatic, ignored him or counter-pushed away from him on several occasions during D1 (see ptmc's eventlist for easy details, just search for "Skynx" lines in red text, or read his filter). Never pressured Lunatic or contributed to his lynch either (no, the one-liner "Lunatic had the worst intro post I guess" didn't impact his own or anyone else's play during D1). A Lunatic/Skynx scumteam makes the most sense to me.
I commented on your push and why it was crap and why it made you scum. Your comment on it pretty much ignored everything I put on the table and just said OMGUS. Therefore you painting me as "static non-reaction" is just hilarious.
I agree I presented your filter's ugly truths badly earlier, but it doesn't make me scum. The core of my suspicion on you came from reading ptmc's list of your actions on D1, which were about all scum-aligned. I should have just listed those, but for some reason I went looking for additional things that weren't very damning. Keep it simple, stupid
ptmc's list was good, but I already addressed those. They weren't OMGUS at all, you seem to be the only one thinking so anyway.
It is OMGUS if the only reason to push someone is that they pushed you.
It's the reasons behind your push that I pushed you, which were nada other than me/Lunatic association as it has been mentioned a million times. I guess we just agree to disagree.
On September 29 2016 03:17 Xatalos wrote: Skynx's static non-reaction to my biggest contribution so far ("still scum because OMGUS, nothing will ever change that!") makes me quite sure that he has to be scum.
If you're still not convinced, read this with some thought and then look at Skynx's filter:
On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote: Skynx Soft-defended Lunatic, ignored him or counter-pushed away from him on several occasions during D1 (see ptmc's eventlist for easy details, just search for "Skynx" lines in red text, or read his filter). Never pressured Lunatic or contributed to his lynch either (no, the one-liner "Lunatic had the worst intro post I guess" didn't impact his own or anyone else's play during D1). A Lunatic/Skynx scumteam makes the most sense to me.
I commented on your push and why it was crap and why it made you scum. Your comment on it pretty much ignored everything I put on the table and just said OMGUS. Therefore you painting me as "static non-reaction" is just hilarious.
I agree I presented your filter's ugly truths badly earlier, but it doesn't make me scum. The core of my suspicion on you came from reading ptmc's list of your actions on D1, which were about all scum-aligned. I should have just listed those, but for some reason I went looking for additional things that weren't very damning. Keep it simple, stupid
ptmc's list was good, but I already addressed those. They weren't OMGUS at all, you seem to be the only one thinking so anyway.
It is OMGUS if the only reason to push someone is that they pushed you.
It's the reasons behind your push that I pushed you, which were nada other than me/Lunatic association as it has been mentioned a million times. I guess we just agree to disagree.
Well, it's pretty much the same as the case on DYH, plus a stronger association with Lunatic than DYH and minus your more active attitude compared to him.
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote: Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote: Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.
Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.
Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.
I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.
This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!
This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.
I know you'd say this
On September 25 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote: What makes you so soure Stutters pr Lunatic?
On September 26 2016 02:21 Xatalos wrote: Well, actually there's also a third scenario, where he's town and simply messed up by making a blue read, including it in his read list for some reason (without specifically saying that he thought he was a blue) and then saying it out loud in the heat of the moment. I guess that's a bit more likely than the scenario #2 after all since he's a newbie... But scenario #1 seems the most credible one, I guess. Hm. Any opinions?
Man I somehow feel like Luna is just misinformed town trying to cover up mistake of being lazy and saying he's blue.
Fking lynch me first just to confirm Xata/DYH then lynch stutters if the game isn't over already. Oh wait thats just not necessary cuz you two are getting lynched anyway.
I won't be around for EoD because I'm stuck in the lab. Here's what I'm thinking so far:
1. Xata: Although he put in effort and produced some content, as I was reading it I realized I wasn't agreeing with some key points in it, mostly his team associations and rationale. I was expecting to read through the post and glean something new from another perspective, but for the most part I feel that he just repeated the same reads he's had for a while in a different way with better formatting. His completely forgetting ptmc is curious as he referenced him within the same post, which isn't really saying anything AI but speaks of how thoroughly he has gone through the thread while making this list. He is still intent on Skynx, still doesn't want to give me much credit for pushing Luna, and failed to arrive at anything definitive. He has 2 scumreads but says they can't be on a team together?
2. Skynx: I'm actually really liking his list of reads right now. I wouldn't put Xata in the conf.scum category quite yet. I find Stutters and DYH to be much worse. What is more important for me is that he is showing what I find to be a more realistic view of the game so far, better than he did a few pages/days ago when I would look at some of his read s and go "huh?" I fear there might be a decent possibility that him vs. Xata is TvT but I'm not yet convinced. Either way, I wouldn't lynch Xata today. Skynx moves a little closer to a town lean for me.
3. I still dislike Stutters greatly. Maybe even more so than DYH, but that might be a chronological bias since I've seen more said about him recently and no words out of his mouth about it. The defense of Stutters seems to hinge on one post of Lunatic's, which I don't find to be a very good thing to put our money on. A person. Who could fuck up D1 so royally could fuck up more than once.
I am tempted to switch to Stutters, but I'll keep my money on DYH since I read into his filter more and thus won't be taking someone else's word for it.
Scummy af: DYH, Stutters Nullish: Scott, Skynx, Xata Town of varying degrees: everyone else
I have the paranoid suspicion that one of our trusted townies might be a bussing scum but I've learned to fight through that paranoia and focus on the tangible until my current scumlist is settled.
There's also the scumlean on DanelerH for his case on Lunatic. It's just a pool of circumstantial evidence.
Do you think DYH looks worse than you on association or do you think the other points against him (disinterest to scumhunt etc.) are just strong enough?
On September 29 2016 05:06 Skynx wrote: Hey you know what, I'm just gona vote DYH cuz if i don't maybe Xata will accuse me of trying to save him by voting xata tomorrow lul
On September 29 2016 05:02 Jealous wrote: I won't be around for EoD because I'm stuck in the lab. Here's what I'm thinking so far:
1. Xata: Although he put in effort and produced some content, as I was reading it I realized I wasn't agreeing with some key points in it, mostly his team associations and rationale. I was expecting to read through the post and glean something new from another perspective, but for the most part I feel that he just repeated the same reads he's had for a while in a different way with better formatting. His completely forgetting ptmc is curious as he referenced him within the same post, which isn't really saying anything AI but speaks of how thoroughly he has gone through the thread while making this list. He is still intent on Skynx, still doesn't want to give me much credit for pushing Luna, and failed to arrive at anything definitive. He has 2 scumreads but says they can't be on a team together?
2. Skynx: I'm actually really liking his list of reads right now. I wouldn't put Xata in the conf.scum category quite yet. I find Stutters and DYH to be much worse. What is more important for me is that he is showing what I find to be a more realistic view of the game so far, better than he did a few pages/days ago when I would look at some of his read s and go "huh?" I fear there might be a decent possibility that him vs. Xata is TvT but I'm not yet convinced. Either way, I wouldn't lynch Xata today. Skynx moves a little closer to a town lean for me.
3. I still dislike Stutters greatly. Maybe even more so than DYH, but that might be a chronological bias since I've seen more said about him recently and no words out of his mouth about it. The defense of Stutters seems to hinge on one post of Lunatic's, which I don't find to be a very good thing to put our money on. A person. Who could fuck up D1 so royally could fuck up more than once.
I am tempted to switch to Stutters, but I'll keep my money on DYH since I read into his filter more and thus won't be taking someone else's word for it.
Scummy af: DYH, Stutters Nullish: Scott, Skynx, Xata Town of varying degrees: everyone else
I have the paranoid suspicion that one of our trusted townies might be a bussing scum but I've learned to fight through that paranoia and focus on the tangible until my current scumlist is settled.
See y'all after work.
At least you read it
Which team suggestions did you disagree with? If you have good points, I'll gladly keep them in mind.
How can he be the 'not worst result' when he's one of your scum-reads? O_o Like who gives a shit if you got two scum-reads strung up and neither of them are around to do anything, then that's an A* scenario right there.
I for one am psyched that people are wising up to scum!Stutters.