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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 28 2016 20:24 GMT
#941
On September 29 2016 05:19 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:16 Rels wrote:
I'm here but my vote is not moving unless DYH magically becomes extremely townie


Hm.

Shenanigans are always fun, don't you agree?

Fun, yeah. Efficient, not really.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:24 GMT
#942
On September 29 2016 05:23 Calix wrote:
How can he be the 'not worst result' when he's one of your scum-reads? O_o Like who gives a shit if you got two scum-reads strung up and neither of them are around to do anything, then that's an A* scenario right there.

I for one am psyched that people are wising up to scum!Stutters.


Basically because he's prolly not scum with Skynx, or anyone else for that matter (except maybe with scott) so Skynx seems like the safer bet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:25 GMT
#943
On September 29 2016 05:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:19 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:16 Rels wrote:
I'm here but my vote is not moving unless DYH magically becomes extremely townie


Hm.

Shenanigans are always fun, don't you agree?

Fun, yeah. Efficient, not really.




"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 28 2016 20:26 GMT
#944
On September 29 2016 05:17 Xatalos wrote:
At least you read it


To be fair I did read your WoT, or most of it. I just thought the majority of it was crap.

The reads feel a bit off, like Rels should be much more obv town based on his pressure on Lunatic. I obv disagree about Skynx.

The whole team thing is just bad imo. I'd probably be willing to write it off as a bad approach but the way you use the team stuff to throw out DYH feels off to me.
I can take that responsibility.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 20:26 GMT
#945
On September 29 2016 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:21 Calix wrote:
Hell no we're not doing CFDs.

Also hi.


Hi.

Did you read my post yet?


Who cares about finding the entire scum team on D2? lol. I have tried that before and it's a really bad idea. Just means the scum will be on their guard and making sure their interactions are like "kk this is how we're going to fuck with the associations lul" and means people get stuck in a tunnel of confirmation bias. I'd know all about that.

tl;dr: No, I don't need to read it to know it's bad and you're bad for doing that.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:27 GMT
#946
I guess it's the second best bet still.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 28 2016 20:29 GMT
#947
Stutters posting on the other thread but showing no sign of activity here is fucking weird
Maybe it is DYH / Stutters and they have given up
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 28 2016 20:29 GMT
#948
Dam dat mind meld with Calix there ^.^
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:29 GMT
#949
On September 29 2016 05:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:17 Xatalos wrote:
At least you read it


To be fair I did read your WoT, or most of it. I just thought the majority of it was crap.

The reads feel a bit off, like Rels should be much more obv town based on his pressure on Lunatic. I obv disagree about Skynx.

The whole team thing is just bad imo. I'd probably be willing to write it off as a bad approach but the way you use the team stuff to throw out DYH feels off to me.


Meh, I don't think Rels receives a complete town pass from that. He did question Lunatic, but didn't really pursue it, and he was like the fourth or fifth on his wagon? Not really a main cause of his death IMO, although he participated.

Off?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 20:29 GMT
#950
I don't think disagreeing on reads is scummy but using pre-flips to tunnel on Skynx is woeful.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 28 2016 20:31 GMT
#951
On September 29 2016 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:26 Tictock wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:17 Xatalos wrote:
At least you read it


To be fair I did read your WoT, or most of it. I just thought the majority of it was crap.

The reads feel a bit off, like Rels should be much more obv town based on his pressure on Lunatic. I obv disagree about Skynx.

The whole team thing is just bad imo. I'd probably be willing to write it off as a bad approach but the way you use the team stuff to throw out DYH feels off to me.


Meh, I don't think Rels receives a complete town pass from that. He did question Lunatic, but didn't really pursue it, and he was like the fourth or fifth on his wagon? Not really a main cause of his death IMO, although he participated.

Off?

I was the one who started the wagon. Not by vote but by pressuring Lunatic into giving up.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:31 GMT
#952
On September 29 2016 05:26 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:21 Calix wrote:
Hell no we're not doing CFDs.

Also hi.


Hi.

Did you read my post yet?


Who cares about finding the entire scum team on D2? lol. I have tried that before and it's a really bad idea. Just means the scum will be on their guard and making sure their interactions are like "kk this is how we're going to fuck with the associations lul" and means people get stuck in a tunnel of confirmation bias. I'd know all about that.

tl;dr: No, I don't need to read it to know it's bad and you're bad for doing that.


It's worked for me in the past though. In one game it pretty much won the game. Granted, it was on D3/D4 or something, so a bit later.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 20:32 GMT
#953
DYH/ Stutters would make a lot of sense given that they have done nothing the entire game, have zero thread presence, etc. This would explain how the scum didn't try to save Lunatic or divert attention elsewhere, because none of them have the influence/ staying power to pull that off.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:32 GMT
#954
On September 29 2016 05:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:26 Tictock wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:17 Xatalos wrote:
At least you read it


To be fair I did read your WoT, or most of it. I just thought the majority of it was crap.

The reads feel a bit off, like Rels should be much more obv town based on his pressure on Lunatic. I obv disagree about Skynx.

The whole team thing is just bad imo. I'd probably be willing to write it off as a bad approach but the way you use the team stuff to throw out DYH feels off to me.


Meh, I don't think Rels receives a complete town pass from that. He did question Lunatic, but didn't really pursue it, and he was like the fourth or fifth on his wagon? Not really a main cause of his death IMO, although he participated.

Off?

I was the one who started the wagon. Not by vote but by pressuring Lunatic into giving up.


Hm, maybe you could look at it that way. Although I think it was Dan who mostly did that
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 20:34 GMT
#955
Ok, here we go.

First off

Rels - This is town Rels, it may be meta, it may be whatever, but if he ends up being mafia he gets a hearty handshake from me because this feels exactly like town Rels. Strongest read I have in the game.

Calix - Everyone already agrees on this one, never lynch, maybe MAYBE take a harder look if he is alive lategame.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 20:35 GMT
#956
Are you two going to continue your dick-measuring contest for "how much did Rels push Lunatic?" or what? Who gives a fuck? Rels is going to make himself obvious as town/ scum regardless of what he did about Lunatic, lol.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:35 GMT
#957
On September 29 2016 05:32 Calix wrote:
DYH/ Stutters would make a lot of sense given that they have done nothing the entire game, have zero thread presence, etc. This would explain how the scum didn't try to save Lunatic or divert attention elsewhere, because none of them have the influence/ staying power to pull that off.


That would be pretty funny if it was the case, but it's maybe like a below 10% chance IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:36 GMT
#958
On September 29 2016 05:34 DoYouHas wrote:
Ok, here we go.

First off

Rels - This is town Rels, it may be meta, it may be whatever, but if he ends up being mafia he gets a hearty handshake from me because this feels exactly like town Rels. Strongest read I have in the game.

Calix - Everyone already agrees on this one, never lynch, maybe MAYBE take a harder look if he is alive lategame.


At last he's back.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 20:37 GMT
#959
On September 29 2016 05:36 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:34 DoYouHas wrote:
Ok, here we go.

First off

Rels - This is town Rels, it may be meta, it may be whatever, but if he ends up being mafia he gets a hearty handshake from me because this feels exactly like town Rels. Strongest read I have in the game.

Calix - Everyone already agrees on this one, never lynch, maybe MAYBE take a harder look if he is alive lategame.


At last he's back.


With some obvious town-reads.

I'm going to rot in a pit somewhere before I see a red name from this dude.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 20:39 GMT
#960
I guess we're in for a show then.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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