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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 21:19 GMT
#981
On September 29 2016 05:53 DoYouHas wrote:
ptmc - The crazy effort in analyzing the game is major town points from me. The way he addressed my response to Rels' case also showed that he is reading carefully and thinking critically. So long as he doesn't drop off hard I'm thinking he is town.

Xata - I liked him from the first hours of the game when he interacted with Calix. Calix stuck around and mixed things up even when he had been given an out, Xata recognized this and gave him a townread for it. I agreed with the read and I liked that he mentioned it as it would be an easy thing to let slide to keep options open. He also seems to be trying to solve the game and I might be biased towards him as he is one of the few who is toying with scenarios that don't involve me being scum.


Dunno, that read felt pretty genuine to me. Or maybe I'm conversely biased
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
September 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#982
So I get to the lab and it's closed due to an emergency, thanks for calling me guys! Love commuting! <3 At least now I can stick around until EoD.

On September 29 2016 05:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:26 Calix wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:21 Calix wrote:
Hell no we're not doing CFDs.

Also hi.


Hi.

Did you read my post yet?


Who cares about finding the entire scum team on D2? lol. I have tried that before and it's a really bad idea. Just means the scum will be on their guard and making sure their interactions are like "kk this is how we're going to fuck with the associations lul" and means people get stuck in a tunnel of confirmation bias. I'd know all about that.

tl;dr: No, I don't need to read it to know it's bad and you're bad for doing that.


It's worked for me in the past though. In one game it pretty much won the game. Granted, it was on D3/D4 or something, so a bit later.

Although I've heard others say it isn't recommended too, I also have had a good experience with doing this in D4. However, I feel that there is a time and place, and this was not it. The broadness of your findings are a testament to this.

On September 29 2016 06:06 DoYouHas wrote:
I have absolutely not read D2 properly. As I said, I've been slammed.

Then why are you posting reads that are outdated instead of updating your information?

@Calix: #gotem

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 28 2016 21:21 GMT
#983
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.


Like it's weird that you are putting out thoughts on 2 ppl at a time when you are just typing these one after another.

You say you haven't paid attn to scott of skynx this game but basically you have to think one of the two of them is scum or else your reads are pretty meaningless. Also you had Skynx as town in a list post before so obv you had thoughts on him at one point.
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 21:22 GMT
#984
On September 29 2016 06:20 Jealous wrote:
So I get to the lab and it's closed due to an emergency, thanks for calling me guys! Love commuting! <3 At least now I can stick around until EoD.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 05:31 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:26 Calix wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
On September 29 2016 05:21 Calix wrote:
Hell no we're not doing CFDs.

Also hi.


Hi.

Did you read my post yet?


Who cares about finding the entire scum team on D2? lol. I have tried that before and it's a really bad idea. Just means the scum will be on their guard and making sure their interactions are like "kk this is how we're going to fuck with the associations lul" and means people get stuck in a tunnel of confirmation bias. I'd know all about that.

tl;dr: No, I don't need to read it to know it's bad and you're bad for doing that.


It's worked for me in the past though. In one game it pretty much won the game. Granted, it was on D3/D4 or something, so a bit later.

Although I've heard others say it isn't recommended too, I also have had a good experience with doing this in D4. However, I feel that there is a time and place, and this was not it. The broadness of your findings are a testament to this.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:06 DoYouHas wrote:
I have absolutely not read D2 properly. As I said, I've been slammed.

Then why are you posting reads that are outdated instead of updating your information?

@Calix: #gotem



Maybe so. However, it can serve as a base to be updated rather than the final solution.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 21:22 GMT
#985
Is it likely? not really. Dane's aggression on Luna seems pretty genuine.

Is it outside the realm? no. Especially if Stutters is town.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#986
On September 29 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.


Like it's weird that you are putting out thoughts on 2 ppl at a time when you are just typing these one after another.

You say you haven't paid attn to scott of skynx this game but basically you have to think one of the two of them is scum or else your reads are pretty meaningless. Also you had Skynx as town in a list post before so obv you had thoughts on him at one point.

This is true. Would like some expansion on that
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#987
How is typing them out two at a time relevant to anything? Is this going anywhere?

I'd rather leave the DYH-answering-questions thing until he's finished with his thoughts. Don't want to distract him too much from saying something first.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
September 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#988
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.

"Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion."

[image loading]
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#989
On September 29 2016 06:22 DoYouHas wrote:
Is it likely? not really. Dane's aggression on Luna seems pretty genuine.

Is it outside the realm? no. Especially if Stutters is town.


Hm... How is stutters related? Process of elimination?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 28 2016 21:24 GMT
#990
On September 29 2016 06:23 Calix wrote:
How is typing them out two at a time relevant to anything? Is this going anywhere?

I'd rather leave the DYH-answering-questions thing until he's finished with his thoughts. Don't want to distract him too much from saying something first.


I guess that's true too. There isn't much time left.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 21:24 GMT
#991
Actually I have one question. DYH, who are you going to vote for and why? Don't spend ages on answering this, lol.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 21:27 GMT
#992
On September 29 2016 06:23 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.

"Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion."

[image loading]


This is an extremely odd thing to say to your #1 scum read on the eve of his flip.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#993
On September 29 2016 06:23 Calix wrote:
How is typing them out two at a time relevant to anything? Is this going anywhere?

I'd rather leave the DYH-answering-questions thing until he's finished with his thoughts. Don't want to distract him too much from saying something first.


At this point if he has anything to say he'd better be typing it up to say it.

We are 30 min till lynch.
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#994
On September 29 2016 06:27 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:23 Jealous wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.

"Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion."

[image loading]


This is an extremely odd thing to say to your #1 scum read on the eve of his flip.

Why ? It is pretty true
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 28 2016 21:30 GMT
#995
On September 29 2016 06:28 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:23 Calix wrote:
How is typing them out two at a time relevant to anything? Is this going anywhere?

I'd rather leave the DYH-answering-questions thing until he's finished with his thoughts. Don't want to distract him too much from saying something first.


At this point if he has anything to say he'd better be typing it up to say it.

We are 30 min till lynch.


True. He's posted most of his reads anyway.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 21:34 GMT
#996
On September 29 2016 06:24 Calix wrote:
Actually I have one question. DYH, who are you going to vote for and why? Don't spend ages on answering this, lol.


##Vote: Scott

I've been thinking about Superbia's kill. There are 4 reasons I can think of for it.

1. Medic dodge.
2. Town is off track, didn't want a fresh vet voice changing things
3. Superbia is on right track
4. WIFOM salad

#1 is obviously the case. With their RB gone they aren't going to target Calix (most townread person N1).
#2 is iffy. Obviously taking out a fresh voice in Superbia accomplishes this, but he isn't heavily townread and he has stated repeatedly that he was going to be lazy this game.
#3 is the most likely case. After losing your RB the first night you can't risk someone with correct suspicions putting you down 0-2. Most common reason to kill someone, also makes the most sense from the mafia perspective this game.
#4 is very unlikely. There are too many people who have established themselves decently as town, too many people more productive than Superbia.
Guts? Determination? $5?
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 21:35 GMT
#997
On September 29 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:27 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:23 Jealous wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.

"Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion."

[image loading]


This is an extremely odd thing to say to your #1 scum read on the eve of his flip.

Why ? It is pretty true


True or not you don't tell someone you think is scum to stop posting pre-flip, that is extremely foolish.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
September 28 2016 21:35 GMT
#998
The amount of people who have 20 minutes to cast a vote... ;;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
September 28 2016 21:37 GMT
#999
On September 29 2016 06:35 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:27 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:23 Jealous wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time?

Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why.

Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game.

"Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion."

[image loading]


This is an extremely odd thing to say to your #1 scum read on the eve of his flip.

Why ? It is pretty true


True or not you don't tell someone you think is scum to stop posting pre-flip, that is extremely foolish.

I didn't tell you to stop posting pre-flip, I suggested that you might want to read the thread before posting reads tho. Like, pick one person and give a read, if you're pressed for time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 28 2016 21:38 GMT
#1000
Ok, gut calls here and then we do some Q&A.

Xata and Skynx is TvT

Scott is scum,

last scum is between stutters and Dane (hedge with Jealous)
Guts? Determination? $5?
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