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On April 10 2016 04:06 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2016 03:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 10 2016 03:11 calippo wrote: haha signing a player that got busted for matchfixing in CS:GO, way to go Liquid. TL has signed on players in the past, despite slight controversies; they reformed and became respectable players once more. Even in StarCraft 2... When have they ever signed a player that has done anything close to matchfixing?
For example, Haypro was caught hacking in SC1, yet the community got over it and trusted him as he joined TL's SC2 team. Very similar to how this CS:GO cheater will hopefully be eventually accepted into Overwatch, because TL is vetting him.
I'm fine with trusting TL and seeing how things play out.
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Should be interesting - good luck!
On April 10 2016 03:41 ZeromuS wrote: If any org is gonna understand matchfixing its TL. Remember, TL as a community and Nazgul have been around for a very very long time and know well the impact of matchfixing.
And this. We'll see how it plays out.
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Finland893 Posts
Overwatch section for the forums?
Grats on the new team. It's a fun, refreshing shooter.
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On April 10 2016 04:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2016 04:06 ZAiNs wrote:On April 10 2016 03:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 10 2016 03:11 calippo wrote: haha signing a player that got busted for matchfixing in CS:GO, way to go Liquid. TL has signed on players in the past, despite slight controversies; they reformed and became respectable players once more. Even in StarCraft 2... When have they ever signed a player that has done anything close to matchfixing? For example, Haypro was caught hacking in SC1, yet the community got over it and trusted him as he joined TL's SC2 team. Very similar to how this CS:GO cheater will hopefully be eventually accepted into Overwatch, because TL is vetting him. I'm fine with trusting TL and seeing how things play out. The Haypro thing was apparently an accident, and even if it wasn't, it was nowhere near matchfixing, and generally it always felt like Liquid wanted to stay away from controversial players.
Waxangel's opinions are his own and not representative of Liquid's, but in the thread about Kespa possibly persuing legal action against the PRIME matchfixers, he said:
"The fact that [Savior is] very publicly streaming and getting along relatively fine (at least from the outside) sets an awful example."
I feel like this is another bad example.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
rehabilitation, not condemnation
still, i'm a bit wary. he seemed really remorseful when i talked to him, but he will have to earn my trust.
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On April 10 2016 02:54 suicideyear wrote: i have some reservations about people hyping up a comp scene for a game that's still a month away from being released to the public, but that's cool i guess
So much this. I think this game needs time in the public before anything and even then I don't see it as a very entertaining nor fun e-sports game to watch.
What do people find they like watching about it?
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Damn didn't realize Dahang plays overwatch. He really was sick in quake. Is the movement anything like in quake? can you strafejump?
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not every game should be forced into esports
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Onlywatch
hard to be excited for this when ya cant even play
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On April 10 2016 01:27 Ansibled wrote: I'm not really a fan of picking up a player who got permanently banned for matchfixing... While I agree, I also think ppl can change. Besides he will get looked at with special causion.
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On April 10 2016 05:17 -NegativeZero- wrote: not every game should be forced into esports ... Overwatch is designed from the grounds up to be an esport. One I'm actually looking forward too. With this line-up it won't be Liquid I'll be rooting for unfortunately.
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Yaaaaaay DaHaNG! Quake represent!
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Only heard of AZK from the matchfixing thing and Dummy from NotEnigma back in the old beta. Still, it'll be interesting to see how they do. The scene is raw and the game isn't even finished yet, so the roster's probably going to fluctuate wildly. Still, will be interesting to see what happens.
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Oh we have a Blizzard TF2 team
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Still not sold on overwatch as an esports but Blizzard have done a great job balancing the heroes. A Month ago, you would see pro teams running the same comp like two Winston,reapers,tracer, genji or zen. But lately, I have been seeing diverse comps from pro teams. Spectator mode is still pretty iffy thought.....
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Savior matchfixes, has his name stricken from the records, championships removed, almost universally hated on TL.
Add matchfixer to Liquid` roster.
Word.
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will there be an entire section devoted to Overwatch? or just 1 thread?
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wow, dahang in TL. $$$$$$
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