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I see this effort very premature but Liquid knows the best.
I'll popcorn my way in for AZK case, I thought Liquid have more values than that. I hope you manage to create a new Simple out of this.
What if those guys get crushed when the flood gates will open? Will you support them even though they would be out of competition?
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This game is too casul. Liquid what are you doing
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On April 11 2016 10:02 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2016 09:56 Latham wrote:On April 11 2016 09:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote: When are we going to get a Liquid Lost Vikings team? Right after a professional Mafia team to compete in Town of Salem web browser game. I personally am quite annoyed at Liquid just throwing its name all over the place in any and every game nowadays it seems. This just results in subpar teams all around, I dunno why Nazgul feels the need to have a team in so many games. What games are you referring too? I am a bit out of the loop I guess. Liquid currently has teams/players in: StarCraft II Dota 2 League of Legends Heroes of the Storm Hearthstone Street Fighter Super Smash Bros Melee Super Smash Bros 4 Counter-Strike Call of Duty Halo Overwatch
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But... this game is not out yet, is it?
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We're all soldiers now! excited to follow Team Liquid into the overwatch scene. I hope the roster will stay stable to build the kind of player-brand identity the way the SC2 squad has
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On April 11 2016 23:08 iloveav wrote: But... this game is not out yet, is it?
I would need to do some checking, but I think pros and teams have started forming long before almost every game’s official release, with the exception of SC2 and LoL.
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On April 11 2016 23:28 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2016 23:08 iloveav wrote: But... this game is not out yet, is it?
I would need to do some checking, but I think pros and teams have started forming long before almost every game’s official release, with the exception of SC2 and LoL. sc2 had sponsored players during closed beta, most from broodwar teams but there were some new acquisitions. Dota2 TI1 had teams competing but they were all dota 1 teams and then it became public.
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On April 11 2016 23:28 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2016 23:08 iloveav wrote: But... this game is not out yet, is it?
I would need to do some checking, but I think pros and teams have started forming long before almost every game’s official release, with the exception of SC2 and LoL.
thus giving an advantage to already established orgs/players in other games to get a head start in the new game (when it's closed beta)
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On April 12 2016 00:17 TwiggyWan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2016 23:28 Plansix wrote:On April 11 2016 23:08 iloveav wrote: But... this game is not out yet, is it?
I would need to do some checking, but I think pros and teams have started forming long before almost every game’s official release, with the exception of SC2 and LoL. thus giving an advantage to already established orgs/players in other games to get a head start in the new game (when it's closed beta) Becoming a member of a quality pro team is very much about who you know and if you are good enough. Nothing can be done to change that.
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Mr. DaHanG himself, the quake legend : ) Nice one Liquid!
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AZK's statement in the OP doesn't sway me from the opinion that match fixing for personal benefit is one of the most harsh things to do in esports. With the pity point I want to award him, it's A for effort but sadly I cannot believe how letting them swap sports makes their previous actions right. It acknowledges the good spirit of the human heart but if anyone is committed to it, they won't care about that.
I am at a loss at this point, and as much as it is a personal opinion the past will always reflect upon you. At some point, your actions felt justified. At some point, it felt like the right thing to do. How can I comprehend this, and supposedly cheer for this person?
The confusion gets to me, because as much as I thought Liquid was going to make a good move in signing an Overwatch team, I did not think it would be riddled with this level of controversy. Now is the time I wish there was an instance above it all that was able to lay down a final verdict.
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Pro teams formed before public has access. New meta.
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On April 12 2016 02:40 loft wrote: Pro teams formed before public has access. New meta. Same meta.
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"Matchfixing is matchfixing"
Great well I guess stealing is stealing and we will ignore all context and give the guy who stole a chocolate bar the same punishment as the guy who robbed a bank. Or perhaps you think the guy who stole the chocolate bar should get a lifetime ban from shopping in any capacity?
Even murder has different levels of punishment applied based on the circumstances. Savior was the ring leader in a throw ring that shook the top of the pro scene to its core. Ibp throw was an insignifigant online match they should of never had to play in the first place.
Do people really think that the ibp guys deserve to be banned from all pro gaming for life when there was no precedent set before they did what they did?
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seriously id really like to know how much blizzard is paying tl to have a team in both overwatch and heroes of the storm
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On April 12 2016 05:28 Erasme wrote: seriously id really like to know how much blizzard is paying tl to have a team in both overwatch and heroes of the storm Its more like their sponsors are giving them money to maximize their exposure. So more teams in more games= more exposure for the advertisers.
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REAllY TL REALLY Azk the matchfixing REALLY and yet yu still have one of the best BW players ban so much bullshit. i mean honestly -.- im starting to agree with TB has said it many times. TL is very shady & not to be trusted.
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On April 12 2016 12:03 ANGELIAS1234 wrote: REAllY TL REALLY Azk the matchfixing REALLY and yet yu still have one of the best BW players ban so much bullshit. i mean honestly -.- im starting to agree with TB has said it many times. TL is very shady & not to be trusted.
TL doesn't have any control over kespa bans...
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On April 12 2016 06:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2016 05:28 Erasme wrote: seriously id really like to know how much blizzard is paying tl to have a team in both overwatch and heroes of the storm Its more like their sponsors are giving them money to maximize their exposure. So more teams in more games= more exposure for the advertisers. Yeah, I'd assume that TL doesn't need to pay this overwatch team much money overall. So the exposure:cost ratio would be very high!
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