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On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote: rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia?
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On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote: rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia?
he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me
you're still saying the sky is green
and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you?
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your assertion is that rels
as mafia
could lynch me with impunity because you and marv would take the heat
my assertion is that no, you're wrong, because i pushed him for him dropping his read to push me, so people going back through after my lynch would see that and he'd look really bad for it
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On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote: rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia? he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me you're still saying the sky is green and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you? I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this:
So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room.
So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more.
Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.
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On October 03 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote: rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia? he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me you're still saying the sky is green and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you? I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this: So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room. So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more. Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.
-squints at-
i'm not trying to be mean here, rayn, but this is really just hot air. you're telling me how i should be thinking when i was townreading trfel d1 as it was @.@
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it's not just "i think trfel is town"
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
so what are you even getting at here? i didn't sit here and say the magic words while still reaching the same conclusion?
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On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2.
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On October 03 2015 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2.
indeed i have
and i wasn't scumreading rels at the time, so again...this doesn't apply? you're right...me thinking rels and trfel being mafia together would be rather illogical. i don't and i don't think i ever have said that?
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on the surface it would be kinda logical to explain the sudden drop of his push on trfel, but pissing off to vote cool...no. rayn, you're beginning to exhaust me again -_-
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Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this. In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.
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On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: it's not just "i think trfel is town"
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
yes this would make sense if you had never scumread Trfel but that's not the case here.
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On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this. In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.
-squints at-
so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that
i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^
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On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this. In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia. -squints at- so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^ Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies...
You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago. Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town).
So, another scumpoint to you.
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On October 03 2015 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this. In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia. -squints at- so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^ Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies... You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago. Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town). So, another scumpoint to you.
-rolls eyes-
you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that
the fact that my main scumreads are all people who DIDN'T CARE about the lynch and pissed off with an afk vote should tell you that my mind is there even if i didn't explicitly say "trfel must be town because scum didn't vote for me"
saying "scum didn't care about the lynch" IMPLIES that "trfel is town"
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On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote: you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further...
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On October 03 2015 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote: you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further...
very good, rayn
and once i looked into him further i decided he was town and i was distracting myself
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If truffle is Mafia then he deserves to get to late game because he is putting the effort into looking into past games
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like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway
so unless you think we're both scum, the only conclusion that you can draw from this is that it does not make a player scum because they didn't consider that at some point in the game ^^ and instead focused on other things
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but instead you townread him for suspecting me lol >< apparently this hadn't occurred to you at the time, either. does that mean you're scum? essentially, rayn, you're barking up the wrong tree here
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and here is where you either rescind your townread on trfel or admit i'm probably lock town if trfel is ^^
-rolls around the thread-
xP
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