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On July 11 2015 07:29 Fidei86 wrote:If only posting first did somehow make you confirmed town. That would sure make this game a lot easier So that everyone knows, the only players I know in the game are scott and NHM. I tunnelled scott pretty hard in the game we played together (Holy Guardians) but he was actually town. I null read NHM in HGand he was mafia, then town read him in Himalayas and he was town. I've also chatted a fair bit to HTS, but I don't know how she plays mafia.
Yo I have no clue wtf those acronyms mean can u put like Nydushermain (NHM) the first time you use an acronym so I can understand what you're talking about? Who is HTS?
On a game note, I think it's pretty good if we all say like what our mafia background 1) I don't know anyone except for nydus and 2) i always judge my reads on people against a background of their experience (e.g. easier to read someone new to mafia based on little things they do).
I have played video mafia on DailyMafia for almost two years and have never played forum mafia before. I am basically a god. I am in a clan called the elo angels because im so good and my elo is so high. My day job involves working with and for lawyers every day so i think about thinks pretty logically and might write formally at some points based on my mood. In video mafia I usually pick up on and push on (sometimes minor) logical inconsistencies and ive noticed ive been tunnelling a bit too hard lately so that may happen this game.
My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming.
[purple]Also it allowed if i just put every post I type in purple so taht you guys always know its me?[/purple]
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On July 11 2015 09:14 Fidei86 wrote: My opinion on the ideal town environment is that it is one where everyone contributes, but nobody spams. The best way for townies to get town-read by other townies is to be active, to discuss things and to give your opinion freely. If you're lurking as town, you're actively hurting your own team. Even if you don't say much and make it to the later rounds, and even if you solve the game, you're an easy mislynch if your filter is only one or two pages long.
However, at the same time, too much back and forth leads to the thread becoming unmanageable for players with less time -- essentially allowing mafia to hide in amongst the noise. I don't want to over-traffic cop, and I'm hopeful it's not going to be a big problem this game, but ... there it is. Yup. In my last game, I mentioned during Day 1 that this is possibly my favorite part of the General Guide on how to play this game:
Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos But there ended up being a fair bit of babbling in that game. There's a lot more of it in Gaiden. And there will probably be plenty of it in this game, if the first couple of pages are any indication. But I appreciate you at least trying.
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On July 11 2015 11:06 TJHuggins wrote: My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming.
TJHuggins wrote: Who is HTS? Could be anyone, really!
##Vote: NydusHerMain
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On July 11 2015 11:23 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 11:06 TJHuggins wrote: My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming. Could be anyone, really! ##Vote: NydusHerMain
Your name suddenly makes sense now
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On July 11 2015 11:38 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 11:23 n00bKing wrote:On July 11 2015 11:06 TJHuggins wrote: My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming. TJHuggins wrote: Who is HTS? Could be anyone, really! ##Vote: NydusHerMain Your name suddenly makes sense now
i'm going back to my cabin
I just came down to say this
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@n00bKing dude I already got you
On July 11 2015 09:18 Sulfurus wrote: I'm cop with a guilty check on noobking
##noobking
get rekt
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Never liked Ashton Kutcher anyways. Good to see my vote was a strong one.
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On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote: Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.
##Vote: Fidei
I don't like the way this guy posts early
Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like?
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In case anyone is interested, the reason why I'm feeling so anti-spam at the moment is that the last game I was in, Himalayas, had 100 pages of filter before day1 had ended. It turned out that two of the scum players had taken it upon themselves to get into shit fights with townies, in order to make the thread totally unmanageable. In practical terms, it meant all the important posts were hidden amongst the noise. I spoke about it a couple of times. I wanted to say it at the start, given that a lot of us are new.
As to why NHM thinks what I said is scummy, I'm guessing because I was a lot more passive at the start of the last two days. That was because Holy Guardians (HG) was my first ever game and Himalayas was the spam fest. This time I feel like I can usefully contribute at the start, at least to trying to set up a good town environment.
I'm not sure that much of what has happened so far is alignment indicative. I agree that Half The Sky's thread entry was a little odd, but I think the opening posts are almost always a little strange ("hi, I'm town" the only sensible thing VT's know, and saying that doesn't move things forward). I think NHM is probably just pressuring me with his vote, although his approach to posting in the thread is a lot different to how he has posted since the game started. I appreciate noobking backing me up re the anti-babble stuff, but not sure that's particularly alignment indicative either.
I'm keen to hear from all the people who haven't spoken yet, honestly.
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A few questions -
noob why the vote on NHM? Can't tell whether your vote is a joke vote or not, the others I can.
Fidei's first posting to me is NAI, he - or anyone for the matter - can talk anti spam.
If you read other games, usually the first 1-2 pages are silly and most people make useless/silly/goofy posts. Sometimes with certain veterans it goes a bit longer than that.
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On TJs question, I've only played forum mafia. I've played on other sites and on TL since Nov 2014 and started hosting in February.
If you look at my profile you can get a sense for my experience on TL. If you go to the database thread for any player who's played at least 1 game here (at least since Kitas last update here) you can also do the same.
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I'm interested in the answer to that as well. I wouldn't say I *know* NHM, but I find it weird he calls me "this guy" when we were happily bantering in the thread before the game started. As I said, it looks just like a pressure vote to me, although that theory falls apart a little considering he hasnt followed it up with any reasoning, or pursued it since.
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@HTS I agree that it's easy to talk anti-spam. And it's also obviously possible to play a perfectly good scum game without either spamming or lurking. But my view is that if we build a good town atmosphere with all townies being active but not spammy, it makes it much harder for even good scum players to hide. If I start lurking or spamming, that'll be a good sign I'm Mafia. But since I'm town, I'll do my best to stick to my words.
One thing that irks me is that I know that you aren't the biggest fan of spam either. Obviously this thread is much more in danger of being too quiet than too loud, but I would have hoped you'd join me echoing my words. Why the change of heart? Or have you just got your game face on (which, admittedly, wouldn't be very alignment indicative..)
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Good Morning... Let me wake up a bit more and re-read, but I don't see a whole lot to go on so far that sticks out at me - except a slight town lean on Fidei.
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I looked on the first page to figure out who is even in the game because I'm having a hard time keeping everyone straight. I see "silentwarrior" is living up to his name.
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My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue.
My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about.
On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 09:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: My blood sense is telling me to lynch everyone who knows what theyre doing We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing.
On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote: Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.
##Vote: Fidei
I don't like the way this guy posts early Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like?
I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure.
just an initial read.
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I also loved how Fidei says its weird the NHM refers to him as "this guy" when they were friendly before the game started.
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On July 11 2015 23:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: We are all sheep. On that note imma sheep n00bKing.
##vote NydusHerMain
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On July 12 2015 01:49 TJHuggins wrote:My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue. My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about. Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote:On July 11 2015 09:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: My blood sense is telling me to lynch everyone who knows what theyre doing We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing. Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote:On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote: Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.
##Vote: Fidei
I don't like the way this guy posts early Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like? I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure. just an initial read. I don't agree with this but let's see what Ghandi says.
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