EPTNewbie Student Mafia XI - Page 108
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Rels
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batsnacks
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Onegu
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Night 3 Scott31337 as Vanilla Town has been killed Night ends in | ||
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Rels
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 Alright good night everyone | ||
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Kickstart
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Was wanting to switch to oats but overslept and no one was here any fucking ways. Where does this put us. 2 mafia vs how many town still? 2v4? Nightkill we are 2v3. Yep, have to get the next one right boys. | ||
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batsnacks
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Trfel
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That's really frustrating. I thought he was mafia for sure. Oatsmaster is probably mafia. The last mafia is probably ruXxar, or maybe even Damdred, as I expect Damdred would be the best at fooling me. He just doesn't feel like mafia, though... I guess I just need to go back to the drawing board. | ||
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batsnacks
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Trfel
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Yeah, it really might be Rels. | ||
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Trfel
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Rels ruXxar Damdred Kickstart batsnacks Trfel WaveofShadow Oatsmaster 8 players left, so 6 town and 2 mafia. There will be 5 town and 2 mafia after the night, and 3 town and 2 mafia if we mislynch again. That gives us one more mislynch before LYLO. So if we can get down to three suspects, we should be okay. I sort of feel like mafia is most likely between Rels, ruXxar, and Oatsmaster, though. Batsnacks, I would appreciate some reasons why you are suspicious of Damdred and WaveofShadow other than POE. How does their play follow mafia motivations? | ||
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Damdred
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WaveofShadow
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On June 20 2015 08:08 Trfel wrote: Ugh, I guess I really just need to look into everyone. Rels ruXxar Damdred Kickstart batsnacks Trfel WaveofShadow Oatsmaster 8 players left, so 6 town and 2 mafia. There will be 5 town and 2 mafia after the night, and 3 town and 2 mafia if we mislynch again. That gives us one more mislynch before LYLO. So if we can get down to three suspects, we should be okay. I sort of feel like mafia is most likely between Rels, ruXxar, and Oatsmaster, though. Batsnacks, I would appreciate some reasons why you are suspicious of Damdred and WaveofShadow other than POE. How does their play follow mafia motivations? Here's the thing about that. Bats has been pretty wrong despite taking very strong stances twice now which on its own is pretty meh, but now the fact that he's continuing on with his apparent PoE scumread of me, nevermind Damdred despite the method being obviously faulty in the first place? Something's up. As far as your townread of Damdred I am definitely not sold on that. Reasons to afk aside, the times where he has been here he has been extremely content to take a backseat, rather than what you say about him leading. On June 20 2015 03:50 Trfel wrote: My past scumreads have been wrong because I've expected Damdred to always play like he does in his best moments. Damdred is certainly a good player, but he doesn't always play to the very high level that he's capable of. (not to pick on Damdred, I'm rarely able to play to my best...) Damdred and I have turned our last few games together into a yelling match, which is one of the main reasons I attributed to town losing those games. If Damdred were scum here, I would expect him to do the same, as it would be an easy way to sidetrack the thread and there's minimal risk for Damdred. Instead, he does this:Which I don't really see coming from mafia!Damdred. When Damdred is here, he seems to be willing to lead the thread. Your bolded point is mostly meta-based, where you assume mafia Damdred will act a certain way even though meta is fairly easy to change in a case like this, and when you say starting a shit fight is at no risk to him when you're top town? Not really seeing how that's the case either. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On June 20 2015 09:11 Damdred wrote: Ie bats will say I'm trying to pocket him and lack suspicion of his play. The only thing I have going for,me is voting on sulp instead of ks and instead of shot fighting with ks and trfel I tried to work with them,and get ks to work with me. Damdred who is scum? Have you caught up? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him" why not respond to anything I said with reason? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On June 20 2015 09:30 batsnacks wrote: I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points. Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him" why not respond to anything I said with reason? Yeah and since nothing has changed at all in your PoE even though you were clearly wrong on Scott, what I responded with originally still stands: Yeah I've read your 'sulf did this, so town' posts and I'm not particularly enamored of them. I will admit I'm usually not great at reading newbies here so maybe that's why I don't feel like looking into his motivations will yield good results, but to assume that every time Sulf defended someone it makes them town seems a little suspect since there are other cases sulf didn't even comment on due to low activity. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 20 2015 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah and since nothing has changed at all in your PoE even though you were clearly wrong on Scott, what I responded with originally still stands: I did not say that every time sulf defended someone it makes them town. I would take your responses more seriously if you were responding to things I actually said instead of making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about what I said. I said trfel is likely not mafia because sulfur defended rux and rels from him d1 and I said that oats is likely not mafia because sulfur scum read him for attacking n00b and Rels. That is not the same as townreading everyone that sulfur defended. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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In all of your PoE analysis you essentially assume that Sulfurus does not bus anyone, and never townreads fellow scum mates so only those people omitted from most of his posting entirely must be scum. If you don't see why that's faulty even after Scott got lynched than by all means continue, but don't expect me or anyone else to listen to you any further. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 20 2015 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright, but you clearly missed the point of what I said. Your reasons are seemingly based on whatever your specific ideals are for how Sulfurus played his game when in reality you don't know exactly how he played. In all of your PoE analysis you essentially assume that Sulfurus does not bus anyone, and never townreads fellow scum mates so only those people omitted from most of his posting entirely must be scum. If you don't see why that's faulty even after Scott got lynched than by all means continue, but don't expect me or anyone else to listen to you any further. Sulfur's first post about you was a town read. Sulfur scum leans on damdred several times. So you're still just making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about my POE. It's not important to me whether or not people listen to me. Not one person has responded to a single thing I said in my POE reads. I'm happy to lead a horse to water it's not my problem if it won't drink. | ||
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Damdred
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However without new information rux/rel and oats still up there. | ||
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Damdred
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