Due to the way that sulfur tried to make an attack on oats.
Scott also tried to push hard on oats.

Could be a bus on oats, but I doubt it.

If you go back and look sulfur made that case against oats when the train was still on kickstarter.
It makes me think it was an honest attempt to get oats lynched because he was an easy target.

However that doesn't make sense either, because why wouldnt sulfur just jump on the kick train?
I don't know, but that's my thoughts about the situation.

ruXxar

Norway5669 Posts

June 19 2015 19:15 GMT

#2124

When I say hard I mean that in a relative sense of what scott has pushed for. He hasn't really pushed anyone that hard imo.

Trfel

7015 Posts

June 19 2015 19:26 GMT

#2125

On June 20 2015 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
Due to the way that sulfur tried to make an attack on oats.
Scott also tried to push hard on oats.

Could be a bus on oats, but I doubt it.

If you go back and look sulfur made that case against oats when the train was still on kickstarter.
It makes me think it was an honest attempt to get oats lynched because he was an easy target.

However that doesn't make sense either, because why wouldnt sulfur just jump on the kick train?
I don't know, but that's my thoughts about the situation.

On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.

I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts)

Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

Here is Sulfurus' first mention of Oatsmaster.

At this time, the vote count was
Sulfurus (3): Kickstart, Damdred, WaveofShadow
Kickstart (3): Rels, ruXxar, Trfel
ruXxar (1): batsnacks

The people who were not voting were MoosyDoosy, Oatsmaster, scott31337, and of course Sulfurus.

At this point, you're right, it was not obvious that Sulfurus was going to be lynched. But with this much time left, why doesn't Sulfurus move his vote to Oatsmaster? Sulfurus didn't seriously push Oatsmaster, and he wasn't widely townread, so his scumread of Oatsmaster didn't really change the suspicion on Oatsmaster.

Sulfurus made sure to come back before the deadline and change his vote to Kickstart. At this time he scumread Oatsmaster more aggressively, but by now he was guaranteed to be lynched.

I don't see why this makes Oatsmaster town.

Trfel

7015 Posts

June 19 2015 19:27 GMT

#2126

I need to head out for a while, be back before the lynch.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 19 2015 19:30 GMT

#2127

It doesn't make oats town imo, its just a classic distancing technique a good bit of scum will use.

Anyway you just acting dumb now bats

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 19 2015 19:53 GMT

#2128

Yo I'm on the train right now, won't be here until 30 minutes before deadline. I'll read as fast as I can then

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 20:00 GMT

#2129

On June 20 2015 04:30 Damdred wrote:
It doesn't make oats town imo, its just a classic distancing technique a good bit of scum will use.

Anyway you just acting dumb now bats

It's possible I'm wrong. Disagree that I'm being dumb. I'm not even kynching you today you have 72 whole hours.

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 19 2015 20:06 GMT

#2130

Idk if your being dumb or not tbh could have a pretty good reason and I just haven't read it at this point.

However 72 hours is to much time lets make it interesting and put it at... 32

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 20:13 GMT

#2131

I'll quote some stuff for you when I get home would like your input regardless

Damdred

15669 Posts

June 19 2015 20:15 GMT

#2132

Kk sounds good anyway tonight/tommorow I should be able to do a good bit of work

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 20:45 GMT

#2133

On June 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote:
Kk sounds good anyway tonight/tommorow I should be able to do a good bit of work

here's the progress I made in more or less chronological order:

sulfur's first post was scum reading and voting kickstart. Good knowing he's town. Also good knowing that we were lynching between town and mafia yesterday.
Sulfur spends more time d1 townreading ruxx than he does doing anything else. The only think that comes close is pushing my lynch. This could mean that ruxxar is town.
Ruxxar voted me for most of d1, sulfurus is probably encouraging ruxxar's vote by townreading him. I don't know if this feels like two mafias.
Thinking about it more, ruxxar is probably town and probably wound up on so many wagons because he is over thinking his first game. He probably discredited my geript read because he saw n00b do it first and thought it would be okay for him to do it. I think all of his scummy actions can be explained in a way that makes sense for town.
Scott does not make an appearance in sulfur's filter until 10 minutes before sulfur is about to be lynched. I am starting to like the possibility of sulfur attempting to wifom Scott/oats. Sulfur's read on Damdred is also suspicious.
Sulfur's strategy d1 is getting on my wagon asap and townreading the other people who voted and stayed on my wagon. Sulfur is "rewarding" n00b and ruxxar with town reads because they are pushing an agenda that benefits him. Sulfur does not need to reward his scum mates to get them to push his agenda, they do it for free.
On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.

I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts)

Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

Look where sulfur says oats is discrediting n00b and Rels townie posts. Sulfur is defending their posts from the big bad bully oats. Newer mafia players do this a lot as scum; they defend townies from aggressive/abrasive town players and scum read them because they believe that the abrasive townie's attitude will make them easier to mislynch. They believe they are earning town points from saving other townie's from the bully. This also implies that Rels is town.
sulfur hard defended Rels and rux from trfel d1. This is very likely a case of sulfur defending town from town, which he also did with oats and Rels/n00b. If Trfel is mafia sulfur is not going to hard defend two townies from him.
so townies are very likely to be:
Batsnacks
Oats
Ruxxar
Rels
Kickstart
trfel

Mafia is:
Scott
Damdred
which leaves wave. if scott or damdred is not mafia, then it is wave. wave has lots of stuff that makes him look better than scott and damdred though, so this I think this is unlikely.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 20:59 GMT

#2134

it's not really clear but I'm townreading oats for the bullet point with sulfur's quote about him.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 19 2015 21:34 GMT

#2135

Hello back (=

Looks like scott gave up. Just have to wait for deadline then

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 19 2015 21:35 GMT

#2136

On June 19 2015 06:27 ruXxar wrote:

Show nested quote +

I second this.

@BS You still haven't explained that.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 19 2015 21:37 GMT

#2137

On June 20 2015 03:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did he not scumslip earlier wave?

You're not reading the fucking game properly. He has explained that, it is not a slip.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 21:39 GMT

#2138

On June 20 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:

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@BS You still haven't explained that.

Completely disregarding meta, scott/damdred are still my votes. It seems unnecessary. And I actually did explain it once this game earlier on.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 19 2015 21:43 GMT

#2139

Alright I feel you, lost all motivation doing a proper scott case when he's going to be lynched anyway.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 19 2015 21:45 GMT

#2140

On June 20 2015 06:43 Rels wrote:
Alright I feel you, lost all motivation doing a proper scott case when he's going to be lynched anyway.

Damdred you buddy/agree/placate/sheep me way more when you're mafia than when you're town. When you're town you are usually suspicious of me at every point in the game and it is usually a constant struggle for me to keep you not-suspicious.

Yeah. If damdred is mafia it's for buddying me and contributing as little as possible.