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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 21:48 GMT
#2141
Alright. It's useless to me 'cause I can't know if it's true.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 21:55 GMT
#2142
It's not super important anyway, I wouldn't be scum reading damdred if that was the only reason I had, that's more of just an interesting observation. Damdred knows I'm easily buddied as town and has used it to his advantage before as mafia. He also knows I have a pretty big range of metas so he is usually constantly suspicious of me as town.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 22:26:12
June 19 2015 22:22 GMT
#2143
Night 3


Scott31337 as Vanilla Town has been killed



Night ends in
Try TL Mafia!!!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 22:28 GMT
#2144


Alright good night everyone
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 19 2015 22:30 GMT
#2145
zzzzzzzzzzz
Was wanting to switch to oats but overslept and no one was here any fucking ways. Where does this put us. 2 mafia vs how many town still? 2v4? Nightkill we are 2v3.

Yep, have to get the next one right boys.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 22:32 GMT
#2146
k somehow I have to be brave and convince everyone to lynch damdred and wave.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 19 2015 22:36 GMT
#2147
Ugh.

That's really frustrating. I thought he was mafia for sure.

Oatsmaster is probably mafia. The last mafia is probably ruXxar, or maybe even Damdred, as I expect Damdred would be the best at fooling me. He just doesn't feel like mafia, though...

I guess I just need to go back to the drawing board.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 22:46 GMT
#2148
damdred and wave please keep me alive. I'm sure town will be ultra suspicious of me after geript and scott.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 19 2015 22:55 GMT
#2149
Oh... and maybe even Rels.

Yeah, it really might be Rels.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 19 2015 23:08 GMT
#2150
Ugh, I guess I really just need to look into everyone.

Rels
ruXxar
Damdred
Kickstart
batsnacks
Trfel
WaveofShadow
Oatsmaster

8 players left, so 6 town and 2 mafia.
There will be 5 town and 2 mafia after the night, and 3 town and 2 mafia if we mislynch again.

That gives us one more mislynch before LYLO. So if we can get down to three suspects, we should be okay.

I sort of feel like mafia is most likely between Rels, ruXxar, and Oatsmaster, though.

Batsnacks, I would appreciate some reasons why you are suspicious of Damdred and WaveofShadow other than POE. How does their play follow mafia motivations?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 20 2015 00:11 GMT
#2151
Ie bats will say I'm trying to pocket him and lack suspicion of his play. The only thing I have going for,me is voting on sulp instead of ks and instead of shot fighting with ks and trfel I tried to work with them,and get ks to work with me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#2152
On June 20 2015 08:08 Trfel wrote:
Ugh, I guess I really just need to look into everyone.

Rels
ruXxar
Damdred
Kickstart
batsnacks
Trfel
WaveofShadow
Oatsmaster

8 players left, so 6 town and 2 mafia.
There will be 5 town and 2 mafia after the night, and 3 town and 2 mafia if we mislynch again.

That gives us one more mislynch before LYLO. So if we can get down to three suspects, we should be okay.

I sort of feel like mafia is most likely between Rels, ruXxar, and Oatsmaster, though.

Batsnacks, I would appreciate some reasons why you are suspicious of Damdred and WaveofShadow other than POE. How does their play follow mafia motivations?

Here's the thing about that. Bats has been pretty wrong despite taking very strong stances twice now which on its own is pretty meh, but now the fact that he's continuing on with his apparent PoE scumread of me, nevermind Damdred despite the method being obviously faulty in the first place?
Something's up.

As far as your townread of Damdred I am definitely not sold on that. Reasons to afk aside, the times where he has been here he has been extremely content to take a backseat, rather than what you say about him leading.

On June 20 2015 03:50 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 20 2015 03:39 Trfel wrote:
On June 20 2015 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok actually, switching back to Damdred because I'm not going to be around for deadline in all likelihood, so if for some reason the entire thread changes their minds you can vote with me :D
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
I guess a lot of our difference in opinion on Damdred is because in my last few games with Damdred, I've always scumread him and I've always been wrong. While Damdred is certainly capable of being an incredible town leader, he doesn't always play to his capabilities.

Although town!Damdred is capable of playing better than he has in this game, his play reminds me of his town play, only there is less of it. And there are several smaller indicators that he is town, particularly his Day 2 voting.

VOTING ASIDE, because it's all most people seem to look at in this game (holy shit i sound like Oats. probably IS town)
Why is Damdred town? What have you seen from him that makes him look like town Damdred? Why have your past scumreads on him been wrong?

Give me something here.
My past scumreads have been wrong because I've expected Damdred to always play like he does in his best moments. Damdred is certainly a good player, but he doesn't always play to the very high level that he's capable of. (not to pick on Damdred, I'm rarely able to play to my best...)

Damdred and I have turned our last few games together into a yelling match, which is one of the main reasons I attributed to town losing those games. If Damdred were scum here, I would expect him to do the same, as it would be an easy way to sidetrack the thread and there's minimal risk for Damdred. Instead, he does this:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 04:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm trying something new here, I'm not going to,give top town trel a hard time about being not sure about me. Instead I'll try to work with and sheep today.

This plan is great
Which I don't really see coming from mafia!Damdred.

When Damdred is here, he seems to be willing to lead the thread.

Your bolded point is mostly meta-based, where you assume mafia Damdred will act a certain way even though meta is fairly easy to change in a case like this, and when you say starting a shit fight is at no risk to him when you're top town? Not really seeing how that's the case either.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#2153
On June 20 2015 09:11 Damdred wrote:
Ie bats will say I'm trying to pocket him and lack suspicion of his play. The only thing I have going for,me is voting on sulp instead of ks and instead of shot fighting with ks and trfel I tried to work with them,and get ks to work with me.

Damdred who is scum?
Have you caught up?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:30 GMT
#2154
I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points.

Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him"

why not respond to anything I said with reason?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 20 2015 00:34 GMT
#2155
On June 20 2015 09:30 batsnacks wrote:
I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points.

Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him"

why not respond to anything I said with reason?

Yeah and since nothing has changed at all in your PoE even though you were clearly wrong on Scott, what I responded with originally still stands:

Yeah I've read your 'sulf did this, so town' posts and I'm not particularly enamored of them. I will admit I'm usually not great at reading newbies here so maybe that's why I don't feel like looking into his motivations will yield good results, but to assume that every time Sulf defended someone it makes them town seems a little suspect since there are other cases sulf didn't even comment on due to low activity.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:39 GMT
#2156
On June 20 2015 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 09:30 batsnacks wrote:
I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points.

Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him"

why not respond to anything I said with reason?

Yeah and since nothing has changed at all in your PoE even though you were clearly wrong on Scott, what I responded with originally still stands:
Show nested quote +

Yeah I've read your 'sulf did this, so town' posts and I'm not particularly enamored of them. I will admit I'm usually not great at reading newbies here so maybe that's why I don't feel like looking into his motivations will yield good results, but to assume that every time Sulf defended someone it makes them town seems a little suspect since there are other cases sulf didn't even comment on due to low activity.


I did not say that every time sulf defended someone it makes them town. I would take your responses more seriously if you were responding to things I actually said instead of making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about what I said. I said trfel is likely not mafia because sulfur defended rux and rels from him d1 and I said that oats is likely not mafia because sulfur scum read him for attacking n00b and Rels. That is not the same as townreading everyone that sulfur defended.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 20 2015 00:45 GMT
#2157
Alright, but you clearly missed the point of what I said. Your reasons are seemingly based on whatever your specific ideals are for how Sulfurus played his game when in reality you don't know exactly how he played.

In all of your PoE analysis you essentially assume that Sulfurus does not bus anyone, and never townreads fellow scum mates so only those people omitted from most of his posting entirely must be scum. If you don't see why that's faulty even after Scott got lynched than by all means continue, but don't expect me or anyone else to listen to you any further.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:51 GMT
#2158
On June 20 2015 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright, but you clearly missed the point of what I said. Your reasons are seemingly based on whatever your specific ideals are for how Sulfurus played his game when in reality you don't know exactly how he played.

In all of your PoE analysis you essentially assume that Sulfurus does not bus anyone, and never townreads fellow scum mates so only those people omitted from most of his posting entirely must be scum. If you don't see why that's faulty even after Scott got lynched than by all means continue, but don't expect me or anyone else to listen to you any further.


Sulfur's first post about you was a town read. Sulfur scum leans on damdred several times. So you're still just making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about my POE. It's not important to me whether or not people listen to me. Not one person has responded to a single thing I said in my POE reads. I'm happy to lead a horse to water it's not my problem if it won't drink.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 20 2015 01:05 GMT
#2159
I am not caught up nor will I be for another few hours when I get home.

However without new information rux/rel and oats still up there.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 20 2015 01:06 GMT
#2160
Though I have a thought that I want to talk about when I get to a comp
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