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On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:@Scott Woud like to know the answer to that too. Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry.
I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless
Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well.
Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well.
Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost
Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost
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On June 20 2015 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave, why am I mafia and why is damdred town if people don't want to talk about him.
Oats, wtf.
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OK I have to go so I will explain why I don't like this at all.
On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
First - that is not true, scott played as newbie and town in newbie IX, so he had had a coach as town.
So, why would scott lie about it ?
If he's town, that's because ... *here someone else fill because I have nothing*
If he's mafia, that's because it is an easy way to:
- say he's playing badly so anything weird we find in his play should be excused.
- try to appeal to our emotional side like this: "oooooo poor fellow, never had a coach as town ...."
Anyway that's a lie, and a lie I find hard to explain from a town perspective. Maybe as he was lynched day 1 as town, he didn't have lots of time to interact with his coach ...
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On June 20 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:@Scott Woud like to know the answer to that too. On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry. I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well. Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well. Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost
That's not the question.
Did you have a coach in newbie IX as town ?
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EBWOP Newbie X not IX I was the Mafia RB.
And my signature is a reminder to myself and others about shitty wagons from Newbie IX - just like this one is going to be.
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On June 20 2015 00:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:@Scott Woud like to know the answer to that too. On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry. I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well. Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well. Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost That's not the question. Did you have a coach in newbie IX as town ?
I did but I had real life issues and was unable to use it.
Coaching QT: LoneMeow http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/vWGAAqtcjfQp
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On June 20 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:@Scott Woud like to know the answer to that too. On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry. I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well. Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well. Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost
And in the newbie IX game you are mentioning spending so little time in, your filter for 48 hours is more than half the size than your filter in this game.
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On June 20 2015 00:54 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 00:51 Rels wrote:On June 20 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:@Scott Woud like to know the answer to that too. On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.
I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott. I'm sorry. I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well. Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well. Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost That's not the question. Did you have a coach in newbie IX as town ? I did but I had real life issues and was unable to use it. Coaching QT: LoneMeow http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/vWGAAqtcjfQp
Alright. Point cleared for me.
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OK I really have to go now. Willing to switch to Damdred or ruxxar as I said, but I let you guys discuss the next few hours. Should be back before deadline hopefully.
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Don't forget this though.
On June 20 2015 00:14 Rels wrote:A few other reasons to scumread scott though: 1. Plants' only post. Not letting this one go. 2. From Trfel's case, read progression: Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:59 Trfel wrote:Read Progression + Show Spoiler +On June 13 2015 02:08 scott31337 wrote:
Geript has four posts and very little content. I know he's good as mafia - but on the scum side of null for now. He scumreads geript here, but uses the reason that geript is good at mafia to weaken his argument. As a result, he doesn't push this at all (and it would be hard to push geript, because he is a strong player). He also scumreads MoosyDoosy and batsnacks, back when MoosyDoosy was a very easy target and batsnacks was scumread by most people. On June 13 2015 01:44 scott31337 wrote:
Good day. I'm at page 16 - So far not liking N00bking for his wordy fluff - and Rels gets a slight townread (even if it's for calling out my replacement). KS and Oats feel are two townies angry at each other.
Let me catch up with the rest and a through read. It makes no sense whatsoever for town!scott31337 to townread Rels for scumreading the person he replaced for his one post. Assuming that scott31337 is town, he townreads Rels for scumreading someone who scott31337 knows is town and was only able to make one (useless) post. There is no reason whatsoever that Rels should get a townread for this. To me, this feels like scott31337 is attempting to pocket Rels, which makes sense given that Rels would naturally be suspicious of him after the replacement. His explanation here adds that he townread Rels for strongly believing this case, but mafia!Rels has no reason NOT to push his case so strongly because he knows that Fake)Plants is town (thus an easy mislynch) and that he almost certainly won't provide strong resistance. On June 13 2015 02:27 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 00:10 ruXxar wrote:On June 12 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
^ Also Kickstart, I wouldn't read too much into ruXx's initial post where he's rambling about slapping/daydreaming about Mafia. It might have been from an attempt to identify himself as a non-aggressor to the Mafia so that when night time comes around, they don't kill him. If the game went on for longer, people would also suspect ruXx more giving the Mafia an easy kill. This actually happens a ton in real life Mafia but it's clear it's totally different online at this point.
Also, going back to his post where he "misses the interaction" which is right after his rambling, it's pretty clear that ruXx is not paying attention whatsoever. As a newbie he was probably just as excited as I was about remaining passive which is why he didn't notice the err in his post. Just the fact that it seems he has no idea whatsoever about what he's saying during his rambling just shows this too.
I'll look through the rest of your points, but I'll try and provide a "newbie perspective." Either way, it looks like he wised up real fast and stopped being as frantic and energetic in his posts. On June 12 2015 11:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yeah, the more I read of ruXx's initial posts, the more it seems he's thinking in terms of a real life Mafia game as well as tryharding a bit.
Him intercepting a question was him tryharding a basic read and him supporting lying is from a real life Mafia mindset since lying is much more common in real life.
The last two posts that you point out are kind of shady but even then they err on the side of newbie to online Mafia. Overall I wouldn't vote him just yet until we get more evidence. Wow moosy. I have to give you 5 stars for this read. It's like you're inside my head or something. I had goosebumps reading this since it was so spot on. You are absolutely right that my only exposure to mafia has been through watching the TI qualifiers hub, and later watching all stars mafia on youtube. I really wanted to emulate the dynamic of a live environment, and went in trying to actively counter some of the things i picked up that a mafia would do. From watching those live mafia games I learned that the number 1 trait of a mafia is to be silent. They would bide their time and look for arguments to bandwagon onto, often avoid getting into heated arguments if possible, and when attacked they would try to deflect onto another person. I admit I am very excited to go out playing my first mafia game, and overracted by claiming my role before day 1 post(I did not know that this was frowned upon). Another thing that I learned is that it doesn't matter if you are mafia or not, as long as you contribute to try solving the case, then it's good to keep people around just in case they are town, because then in the largest portion of games they would be a boon to you as a town. This is Rexxar's best post. The goosebumps part sounds so legitimate and would be extremely creative to fake from the posts he made earlier. Slight town read Slight townread on ruXxar. Then he doesn't mention ruXxar for a while, until: On June 13 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
Who I'm liking so far -
Wave
Trfel
n00bKing
Damdred
Oats
Probably wouldn't lynch today -
Rels
Kickstart
Could Lynch -
Batsnacks
Geript
MoosyDoosy
Sulfurus
RuXxar Including basically everyone who could be lynched today in the "Could Lynch" category. Again, note that he ends up voting for Rels, despite having included him in the "Probably wouldn't lynch today" category, the only reasons being sheeping me and this post: On June 13 2015 07:37 scott31337 wrote:
KS and Rels are playing a lot different then my last game with either of them, which makes me wonder. Finally, he's always saying he could lynch geript, without actually pushing it or doing anything about it. When the votes finally switched to geript, and scott31337 switched his own vote to geript, he didn't say anything whatsoever. I need to move on, I'm running out of time, but I'm pretty confident that scott31337 is mafia. 3. Meta: - His filter when he was town in HG was 2 pages longer than on this one. - His filter when he was town in newbie IX was 3 pages on day 1 when he was lynched, more than half the size than this game. - His filter when he was mafia in newbie VIII was 1 page less than this game. And you discarded it, but 4. Vote analysis: - Day 1 ninja voted geript as the last vote. - Day 2 weird behaviour at EOD.
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Without a good case on Damdred or rux I'm staying on scott.
Alright see you later guys (=
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Well anyway that's a scum slip because if he's town this game, he has a coach so therefore he's mafia.
Wave, what wtf?
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Wave is into his usual shenanigans. Don't worry about him, he has this all planned out 
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Oats wtf is THE FACT THAT I AM VOTING FOR DAMDRED AND YOU SAID I CALLED HIM TOWN.
I know how you are with this game, so the fact that you are not being careful whatsoever with anything you post and it makes no goddamn sense half the time is absolutely not a towntell for you. You come in here, throw random shit jabs at people, have no semblance of who you want to lynch straight and why, and you're somehow getting away with it. You started to play well in the beginning of the game but now that people are putting pressure on you you've completely lost that and have fallen apart.
Guys get off scott.
It HAS to be one of Oats/Damdred, and this point I don't really care which one you vote for.
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On June 20 2015 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
He's doing his best Oats impression I think.
Damdred is looking better and better to me.
There are definitely people avoiding talking about him in any real respect.
so by better you mean worse.
Ok.
Seems legit.
This also smells a whole lot like you trying to save your scumbuddy.
How did he not scumslip earlier wave?
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On June 20 2015 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats wtf is THE FACT THAT I AM VOTING FOR DAMDRED AND YOU SAID I CALLED HIM TOWN.
I know how you are with this game, so the fact that you are not being careful whatsoever with anything you post and it makes no goddamn sense half the time is absolutely not a towntell for you. You come in here, throw random shit jabs at people, have no semblance of who you want to lynch straight and why, and you're somehow getting away with it. You started to play well in the beginning of the game but now that people are putting pressure on you you've completely lost that and have fallen apart.
Guys get off scott.
It HAS to be one of Oats/Damdred, and this point I don't really care which one you vote for.
Prove the bolded statement.
Also, quote the posts in which I make no goddamn sense.
Why are you trying to get people off this totally good lynch??!??
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Wave you better not be pulling the shit I think you are pulling.
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Im going to sleep.
Guys, dont let wave derail this lynch just because he had a bad day at work.
Stay the course.
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Oh actually a misunderstanding here for once.
Yes, by better and better I mean better and better as a lynch.
How did who not scumslip earlier? Scott's shit about the coaching?
I have no idea but you should how scumslips work---that is, they don't. I assume he's simply not including this game for whatever reason?
On June 20 2015 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is scott town??
How is he scum?
Go ahead and show me Oats.
Do some scumhunting.
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