EPTTeamliquid Redesign - Page 9
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Cricketer12
United States13949 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3993 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3571 Posts
Yeah TL looks pretty antique now | ||
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phantomfive
Korea (South)404 Posts
Don't clean things up by removing things people use. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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juliaRoberts
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though I always look to add extra style to the side bars and still try to keep it simple as well...i suggest the same here. | ||
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C1icKer
United Kingdom1 Post
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
I believe it should be possible to revitalize the site without changing the spirit so it may require some roll back. Just don't get too influenced by "new meta". | ||
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sixfour
England11060 Posts
On May 26 2015 00:19 BookTwo wrote: Would you guys like to see teamliquid get a facelift? it isn't broken so don't fix it. there are few things that annoy me more than unnecessary redesigns. (edit - i did actually post this before, didn't notice this is a week old or so) as far as your design goes, it makes it harder to see the content. too much white, too much space allocated to pictures, i don't know why you're even looking at stream designs as i just click straight through to twitch anyway and doing anything else is insane. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
I have no other interest in TL besides Starcraft since i don't play or follow the other eSports! | ||
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eXeTimelog
Netherlands29 Posts
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populis
Brazil88 Posts
On May 26 2015 16:32 disciple wrote: Those are some interesting thoughts. I've been following a dozen of communities/news sites over the years. Not once I rushed straight to the message boards and forums to read and participate in community discussions. There's always a period of anxiety for new users when they are not active on the forums. The community aspect emerges naturally when users feel comfortable in the environment, but for that to happen you need some other incentive to visit the site on a daily basis. Now, if I'm a new guy visiting TL I would be like 'ok sure I get it, this is a community site, but give me a reason to come back every day and stay'. It's kinda like when you are 10 years old and your parents move to a new town and you have to go to a new school. You probably won't hurry up to introduce yourself and make friends - you will be scared at first. Communities become very intimate and personal over time - that's especially true for TL where ppl know each other for more than 5 years in some cases. The community matters for, well, the community. Don't get me wrong - TL should always be about that. But we also need to present more useful features for the neutral visitor, more substance so there are reasons to visit the sites daily. For all non SC sites people just visit us cause one of our great articles gets linked on reddit, but when they are done reading they just go back to reddit cause they belong there. You won't create a sense of belonging by forcing the community on people. We will need something different if we want our site to grow (or even stop shrinking), if we want to serve our own needs then yea I don't think a redesign is needed at all. Agree. I visit TL almost daily since a long time ago and I don't post quite often ("don't post often" is quite an euphemism, check my registration date and the number of posts). I come here mostly for content/events/streams. From my perspective, the "events" + "streams" sections deserves big screen real estate, alongside a huge articles + featured + news section. But I say "from my perspective" because I'm also a website developer (being working on this for 6 years now) and, despite not being specialized in UX/UI and instead work mostly on programming, honestly I don't think design and UX problem is something that can be discussed and solved by a large amount of people. From experience, I'd say these things are decided by a very small group of people who can identify the current needs and also envision the way the ship is going. If you have a website with 10000 users and ask them for feedback on design, you'd mostly likely end with 10000 versions of the website. I think UX and design are extremely important for a product. Not only it outlines how people perceive it at the current moment, but also defines what it is going to be in the future. Yet it has a strong subjective component to it, so it's too open and too sensitive a subject for general discussion. I say all that because TL's UI always bothered me. It kinda gets in the way of actually navigating and consuming from it. It isn't surprising since it evolved from an old, battered, hacked, customized forum. I think that's the issue: TL was a forum that got several appendages. One day the annexes became bigger and heavier than the core itself and started to be too cumbersome. So, tl;dr: * I think TL needs a clear direction (is it a forum? is it a content/media site? is it a purely community site?) * Its redesign needs to express this direction * Direction is hard to discuss among too much people, specially involving subjective topics such as design * Community feedback helps define direction, but shouldn't become an endless discussion and a problem itself tl;dr II: it mostly comes down to project management issues. | ||
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