EPTTeamliquid Redesign - Page 7
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craaaft
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Boundz(DarKo)
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
But as others I don't like that completely bright white. This "grey area" in the current version is nicer somehow... but I don't know if that clashes with the other colors... The Livestreams on the side are too big! I prefer a simple, short list. Also where is the difference between "normal" streaming and Event streams? I really like this difference here! Don't know if it's just for tablets/mobile, but the live streams in a window-wide screen is nice. But please keep the "pop out stream" button! I really like it! About the "head font". I like the "transparent" version better. But I wouldn't take people as picture; well maybe for TL-Pro. But for the games I would use ingame units or something other recognizable. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
the new design doesnt address the forum at all, it just makes the splash page white??? what change is this it looks good but so does the current thing unless u hate grey and want everything white or whatever this is like painting ur walls white instead of beige coz u think white looks nicer . next you will chuck ur desk out coz it looks like wood color and buy a plastic white one instead to match ur white google iphone obsession. u want a white website well go to http://www.teamliquidpro.com/ and someone already made it white. just pretend the grey bit is white and that's your new design. this doesn't address anything other than the fact that everyone is jacking off over the colour white teamliquid.net - "now everything is fucking white" ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/swO6qhA.jpg) ^ whiteception | ||
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Mekare
Germany393 Posts
The design also doesn't represent Team Liquid very well in my opinion - and the colours for the Starcraft part don't look "starcrafty" at all. When I clicked the link I actually expected that the new design would capture the "TL feel" somehow, but this could be any website, there's nothing special or familiar about it. Much of it looks just like any generic news website that flashes oversized images around. Having a different / improved use of space for the pages' content seems like a neat idea, but i don't think that this new layout truly improves that much. Where did the calendar disappear to? Not a fan of the bigger streams list. It just gets stretched by showing screenshots, looking less clean. Maybe there's another way of giving it a small visual upgrade without making it look like a youtube playlist? That said, I do believe that the site could use an overhaul, but unless it keeps the "TL feel", I'd rather keep the current version, if only to protect my eyes from all that white. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 27 2015 17:47 JieXian wrote: This isn't a redesign but an optimisation for wider screens and keeping up to date with the current requirements (not fashion) --- but it's BRILLIANT and this should definitely be done at the very least. A lot of websites nowadays look like apps anyway >_> hideous on PCs/laptops I just noticed that the first 4-5 slides were fluff and Mr BookTwo could've easily saved the time or spent the time in making his design look better. That might have been a good idea when used to present to corparations because in all honesty the first few slides of fancy fluff looked reaaally sleek, but I think it was a waste of your time since all we care about are the other 3-4 slides. PS: You're caught redhanded using adblock  Not using adblock at all actually. I just have my javascript settings to require me to "allow" certain scripts. Helps with the load of certain pages and security. If it's just an image, the ad will show up and TL get's their view :D Here is what it actually looks like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DtplYjw.png) On May 27 2015 19:27 velvex wrote: There's a limit to how wide you want a text column to be. At some point, it becomes awkward to read when a line goes on and on across the entire screen. You could probably make it slightly wider than it is now, and wider sidebars could be nice as well, but the middle column in your example is really too wide. Yea, I thought that too, I had made the left column a bit larger (can definitely go larger here) and the right one I kept the same because I saw it would have a lot of negative space inside the column if I made it larger. The middle column, will be one tough one to figure out in terms of trying to make it responsive but not weird for reading. Just wanted to show what a large screen TL would look like if it was built like that. | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On May 27 2015 21:00 Kaeru wrote: People hate change. But change is necessary. Is it necessary to be spice up your life and be an outlaw like Jesse James? Is it necessary to change the Swedish government into Is it necessary to be to paint your house completely white and use only white furniture and white doors and dye your hair white? These are all lifestyle changes. Are any of these necessary? No, because things can change for the better or change for the worse. We have been part of this community for many years. We want to ensure things improve instead of regress. To everyone who has said similar things as Kaeru, please don't regurgitate some quotes you heard blindly and think for yourself. | ||
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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TelecoM
United States10675 Posts
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salle
Sweden5554 Posts
On May 27 2015 21:00 Kaeru wrote: People hate change. But change is necessary. I'd go one step further and say "change is inevitable" And it's not a new observation either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_too_shall_pass | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
As others have said before, it makes the web site a lot more generic. In other words, it's good but not distinctive. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On May 27 2015 13:45 JieXian wrote: Yes, TL is my effective homepage too. I won't move if there's a just a redesign, not after all these years, but I might if I'm totally lost or it totally sucks. But I'm sure it won't be happening  Either way, it's about time I created an account on reddit, it actually is a good place. To be fair, it wouldn't be just this. TL has changed quite a lot over the years...from a homely place to a (subjective) generic multigaming forum. Before, you knew most of the faces but these days...definitely not. The only unique thing here is the BW section but that's all. I'm also interested in SSBM (but there is a dedicated website + larger general forums) and Dota 2 from time to time but that wouldn't be enough to keep me here, especially with a design change which is so displeasing on the eye. Not just the colors but the layout as well. I'm a PC user and want to see all the options and content immediately. I don't need drop-down menus, gigantic pictures for one single livestream and the likes. It's funny that in these days when everything needs to be more efficient, design goes the complete opposite way. | ||
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SinTio
Germany871 Posts
Edit: This is all on desktop, though I guess the point still stands on mobile. A redesign for mobile I would understand though, seems a little awkward at times, though the mobile version should be independent of the desktop one anyway. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On May 28 2015 01:18 Kaeru wrote: 1. Mad much? 2. Your arguments are beyond stupid. 3. I didn't say anything about his design or what my thoughts on his design was. Simply because I don't think the design present enough solutions. I've worked professionally as a web designer - at top agencies for a long time kid... And no matter if it is better or worse - people still hate change. Do you remember Facebook when they changed from v1 to v2? How much people hated it? From v2 to v3? from v3 to v4? Do you remember the status updates? The chat updates? How much hate there was? Well I can tell you this much - all these changes were for the better. But still there was a lot of hate. Exactly, the arguments were made to make your 2 liner look stupid. Yes, people hate change, sometimes because they don't want to change, sometimes because it's for the worse I merely gave you a few examples of changes for the worse. Some people resist change for being change but don't group all of the resistance from TL members in that category, that's just having a superiority complex as a designer and disrespectful to people. Some people don't like to change but some people really think that the proposed idea was bad, just like how you thought my proposed lifestyle changes to you were "beyond stupid". I'm surprised I have to explain this to you. If you read my post as being mad or like I was yelling, don't worry I was calm and I don't have anything personal against you It was just an insulting choice of words because of the statement that make us look like stupid change resisting sheep. I was against your statement. I'm happy for your to have been in top agencies, no idea why you brought that up. BTW I've heard of the hate but I was happy with the facebook and youtube changes. They added features but didn't rebrand anything. I didn't say anything about his design or what my thoughts on his design was. Simply because I don't think the design present enough solutions stop making this about you again. I did not once question you on your thoughts about the design. Now you're even being disrespectful to BookTwo who actually put in the effort, because "he didn't present enough solutions". wth man. Now I'm saying that you're really a fancy professional designer (which I highly doubt based on the immaturity of your reply as compared to the one by BookTwo) you could contribute more than fancy 2 liners. On May 28 2015 01:36 salle wrote: I'd go one step further and say "change is inevitable" And it's not a new observation either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_too_shall_pass What was the point of that quote? The concept of impermanance has been around at least since the days of Buddhism in 600-400 BC, way before the time in the wiki link. We all know that. And it is irrelevant. TL is already going to change whether it gets a redesign or not. It has already changed a lot for a lot of us who were around 10 years ago and it will keep changing. | ||
Thumbless
United States24 Posts
Second, thanks. The time you spent shows in the design. No one asked you, you just did it for the love and that's awesome. You also started the talk about what people like and don't like about the current design. That's the information needed to make an actual attempt to redesign. I love the specific feedback that people are giving. However, this is one hell of an onion to unfold. I would write down my thoughts but no one wants to read a 50+ page spec. Keep refining the idea. Just remember that the community doesn't just read and post and share, it creates the content as well. A lot of the writers, streamers and designers volunteer and do it for the love. The site needs to be a stage for those individuals who are creating the content. The redesign should be one that considers this. It should be more about the tools it gives those creators and the tools that facilitate content production and distribution. For both the community and content to interact with low friction. That's usually a UI/UX task before graphic design. Ultimately, you did a great job. Cheers! | ||
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salle
Sweden5554 Posts
On May 28 2015 03:15 JieXian wrote: What was the point of that quote? The concept of impermanance has been around at least since the days of Buddhism in 600-400 BC, way before the time in the wiki link. We all know that. And it is irrelevant. TL is already going to change whether it gets a redesign or not. It has changed a lot for a lot of us who were around 10 years ago. Yes TL has changed, TL is changing, and TL will continue to change as long as it's "alive". The only thing we can do is try to bring positive change to it, which is where constructive criticism is one good tool, but so is daring to dream big and put your thoughts out there for others to criticize. And in this case I mean ... if we were to release this as a stand alone webapp called LiquidNews or whatever. Ithink there would be a whole lot of people who would like and use it, since it's aimed for a very specific demographic and usage pattern. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On May 28 2015 03:34 salle wrote: Yes TL has changed, TL is changing, and TL will continue to change as long as it's "alive". The only thing we can do is try to bring positive change to it, which is where constructive criticism is one good tool, but so is daring to dream big and put your thoughts out there for others to criticize. And in this case I mean ... if we were to release this as a stand alone webapp called LiquidNews or whatever. Ithink there would be a whole lot of people who would like and use it, since it's aimed for a very specific demographic and usage pattern. Yes, BookTwo has balls of steel. Not many of us can do that. Yes if you release an app I have no idea if it will work but it's worth a try. | ||
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