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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 26 2015 20:08 GMT
#101
I love TL just the way it is, but I appreciate your work, at least for a tablet use.

To me, the only thing I can think of to improve TL is just to merge the column from left and right in one column only to the left so there is less white space. Nothing more.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 26 2015 20:12 GMT
#102
On May 27 2015 03:49 YourGoodFriend wrote:
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On May 26 2015 01:56 riotjune wrote:
Can we finally get an option to set background to black with white text? It's easier on the eyes. Can't get the plugin to work anyway.


Background of what? (a forum post, the main background, the sidebar), I can write a plugin for you to do it in about 5 minutes if I know what you want

the current white space (especially left and right) in light gray. white is the horror for my eyes If I have to read something.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 26 2015 20:51 GMT
#103
Upgrade already I say =).

It's a modern look while still maintaining that traditional TL feel. We can't keep this old layout forever! I also can't stand how inefficient those white sides are now.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 26 2015 21:03 GMT
#104
On May 26 2015 09:09 Cambium wrote:
I don't know 90% of the new people on TL anyway, if we change the design altogether, I probably just won't visit =/

Same here...which is funny, considering I had this one set as homepage for five years now.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 26 2015 21:11 GMT
#105
If it doesn't make the site take longer to load, I think it looks good.

Currently, I think this site looks good. Better asthetic than smashboards for sure.

I dislike plush, the redesign is plusher but not bad.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 21:45:46
May 26 2015 21:40 GMT
#106
This redesign adds no value for users. There's no calendar/upcoming events and no stream list. (the reason I first came here..) If you make the stream list with those preview-windows I might as well just go to twitch to choose a stream as there is no usability benefit here on TL. You say you're community focused yet community news and forum spotlights have been removed from the front page. I don't hate change but please don't change just to change removing good things in the process.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
May 26 2015 22:39 GMT
#107
On May 27 2015 06:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This redesign adds no value for users. There's no calendar/upcoming events and no stream list. (the reason I first came here..) If you make the stream list with those preview-windows I might as well just go to twitch to choose a stream as there is no usability benefit here on TL. You say you're community focused yet community news and forum spotlights have been removed from the front page. I don't hate change but please don't change just to change removing good things in the process.


Agree 100%. Which is why it's just a concept.

One of the largest aspects of the community is events and streams. Removing them makes no sense whatsoever and any good redesign will retain and improve on these features.

I simply didn't have the scope (read:time) to redesign everything so I went for a more high-level view to generate discussion. From the feedback it's obvious that a lot of liquideans use Events/Calendar and like where it's positioned (top right).
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
May 27 2015 04:06 GMT
#108
On May 27 2015 04:51 darthfoley wrote:
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On May 26 2015 01:59 Faeny wrote:
Anything that doesn't waste >50% of the screen space to the left and the right is an improvement for me.

Dunno why liquid sites still so stubbornly stick to this shitty fixed layout.


This! Too much white space


+1

Also agreed with the comments where the new layout feels too white, and not as userfriendly with the calendar/events etc.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 05:43:56
May 27 2015 04:45 GMT
#109
On May 27 2015 03:05 G5 wrote:
I have my own online marketing company and web design is one thing I do for a living. It's not a bad redesign. I love the stream look. An issue that immediately jumps out at me after scanning the examples is the transparent header/menu in the featured articles. Don't do that please. You will run into limitation issues where the featured image will have to not have certain colors on it or the menu will be hard to read. You could add a stylish overlay on the menu but I'd just scrap it and keep the normal header/menu for consistency.

Also, from someone who has used TL.net for 10+ years, please add the time zones somewhere. I can't tell you how many times the time zones on TL.net made it that much more simple to keep track of when I had a tournament.

I'm also curious as to whether this is going to be a boxed or full-width layout? If it's boxed, you will have trouble with all the white unless the dead space background is going to be something to off-set it like an egg-shell (nothing bold or it'll distract from the actual content). If it's full-width, you'll be fine but may run into functionality issues. For example: If you have a full-width layout the forum won't look too great because the grid will be too large and dwarf the average post size.

I'd start with exactly what you're doing, asking people their opinions. However, you need to be asking the right questions. Asking specific questions as to what layouts, functions, and features should be kept or changed is huge. I believe you all know the good ol' saying of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". This is very true and research is key for something like TL.net with such a strong following. There is so much traffic to TL.net I can guess the EV of the site and it's easily 6 figures. I wouldn't risk that without a lot of research. Example: When GosuGamers.net switched layouts, I stopped reading it because I disliked how everything flowed.

Good luck with the project, if you need any advice or technical help, let me know.

Thank you.


Please work together or something!


On May 27 2015 06:03 Lucumo wrote:
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On May 26 2015 09:09 Cambium wrote:
I don't know 90% of the new people on TL anyway, if we change the design altogether, I probably just won't visit =/

Same here...which is funny, considering I had this one set as homepage for five years now.


Yes, TL is my effective homepage too. I won't move if there's a just a redesign, not after all these years, but I might if I'm totally lost or it totally sucks. But I'm sure it won't be happening

Either way, it's about time I created an account on reddit, it actually is a good place.
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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
May 27 2015 06:04 GMT
#110
If tweaked, this new design might be good to replace the "mobile enhanced" version, but for PC I would be really put off.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 15:19:45
May 27 2015 07:55 GMT
#111
Haven't seen anybody post it yet, but this is full width responsive until it's regular size. Did this within 15mins of just messing and cleaning up some of the html/css (a lot can actually be done in terms of front end development). I'm pretty busy, so you guys only get a full screen view for now!

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I currently like the layout cause it really is simple and every forum has it's place. Where as the design proposed is really plain and looks like every other grid framework (don't mean to be rude or anything, but I sense you're more of a UI Developer for applications?)
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 08:56:30
May 27 2015 08:47 GMT
#112
On May 27 2015 16:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Haven't seen anybody post it yet, but this is full width responsive until it's regular size. Did this within 15mins of just messing and cleaning up some of the html/css (a lot can actually be done in terms of front end development). I'm pretty busy, so you guys only get a full screen view for now!

http://imgur.com/7v80GSd

I currently like the layout cause it really is simple and every forum has it's place. Where as the design proposed is really plain and looks like every other grid framework (don't mean to be rude or anything, but I sense you're more of a UI Developer for applications?)


This isn't a redesign but an optimisation for wider screens and keeping up to date with the current requirements (not fashion) --- but it's BRILLIANT and this should definitely be done at the very least.

A lot of websites nowadays look like apps anyway >_> hideous on PCs/laptops

I just noticed that the first 4-5 slides were fluff and Mr BookTwo could've easily saved the time or spent the time in making his design look better.

That might have been a good idea when used to present to corparations because in all honesty the first few slides of fancy fluff looked reaaally sleek, but I think it was a waste of your time since all we care about are the other 3-4 slides.

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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 27 2015 09:15 GMT
#113
This is kind of good (objectively since i just hate those new responsive design modes) but the only thing i REALLY dislike is the lack a feeling of the site.

For exemple you can clearly see the difference entre TL and TLheartstone today because colours. Here it's like too subtle for me.
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tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
May 27 2015 09:17 GMT
#114
Dude, this is aweful. You wasted hundreds of hours man. I would hate this. Teamliquid please for the love don't even consider this crap. Its disgusting. The background is way too bright it hurts my eyes to look at it. The community news is my favorite part of teamliquid. The community news not even there. Its harder to see the separation between subsections. Its harder to look for what i see. The whole layout looks cheap. I love the awesome teamliquid header with the horse as the first thing you see. You don't have the awesome teamliquid header. The only thing i like is the fonts are a little larger and the streams have preview images. Other than that it looks cheap and hideous to me. I definitely do not like it.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 27 2015 10:06 GMT
#115
On May 26 2015 01:59 Faeny wrote:
Anything that doesn't waste >50% of the screen space to the left and the right is an improvement for me.

Dunno why liquid sites still so stubbornly stick to this shitty fixed layout.

This is maybe the only complaint I would have. Other than that I like the website as it is :D
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 10:20:23
May 27 2015 10:15 GMT
#116
On May 27 2015 06:03 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 09:09 Cambium wrote:
I don't know 90% of the new people on TL anyway, if we change the design altogether, I probably just won't visit =/

Same here...which is funny, considering I had this one set as homepage for five years now.

same, TL has been my hopepage for years now and I dont want it to change, No offence to the author or anything, but it doesn't feel like I'm reading TL when I see that, I feel like I'm looking at The Daily Dot.


Couldn't you also just offer it as a part of the user preferences? Like TL Classic and TL Modern layout settings?
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velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
May 27 2015 10:27 GMT
#117
On May 27 2015 16:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Haven't seen anybody post it yet, but this is full width responsive until it's regular size. Did this within 15mins of just messing and cleaning up some of the html/css (a lot can actually be done in terms of front end development). I'm pretty busy, so you guys only get a full screen view for now!

http://imgur.com/7v80GSd

I currently like the layout cause it really is simple and every forum has it's place. Where as the design proposed is really plain and looks like every other grid framework (don't mean to be rude or anything, but I sense you're more of a UI Developer for applications?)

There's a limit to how wide you want a text column to be. At some point, it becomes awkward to read when a line goes on and on across the entire screen. You could probably make it slightly wider than it is now, and wider sidebars could be nice as well, but the middle column in your example is really too wide.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
May 27 2015 11:00 GMT
#118
I must say that it's better than I'd expected it to be. I think interaction will benefit from it, but it's less of a page that stands out amongst others. But you're always going to lose a bit of identity, so naturally people will oppose change.

I'm really ashamed to admit that I did not know what LiquidDota or LiquidLegends looked like. But I agree the structure should be more clear. I'd even suggest to reserve the 'team' tag for the proteam, as it's really the only team around here, and not drop it like in the design.

teamliquid pro -> proteamliquid?
teamliquid -> liquidstarcraft
liquiddota, liquidhearthstone, liquidpoker, fine.
I'm not too enthusiastic about liquidlegends, at first I thought it was about old SC players when I read the title (some kind of liquipedia with BW players like Kim Dong Soo, Guillaume ). I even like liquidlol better.
liquipedia should indeed just be a part of liquidstarcraft (and should probably be renamed as well, liquidstarcraftwiki?)
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 11:38:20
May 27 2015 11:37 GMT
#119
i guess u cud make current TL scale more for higher resolutions/larger screens
that wud get rid of the white sides and also preserve the ability to zoom in for people with shit eyesight
like increase maxwidth of the inner/centre box
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Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
May 27 2015 12:00 GMT
#120
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