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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
On May 26 2015 01:24 JieXian wrote: Call me old but I don't want TL to change, at least not teamliquid.net Pretty much my sentiment right there :3 I don't mind experimentation on relatively new offspring (HS, Dota, Lol) but the main portal has it's allure as well. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2501 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On May 28 2015 00:02 JieXian wrote: Is it necessary to be spice up your life and be an outlaw like Jesse James? Is it necessary to change the Swedish government into a Neo Nazi one? Is it necessary to be to paint your house completely white and use only white furniture and white doors and dye your hair white? These are all lifestyle changes. Are any of these necessary? No, because things can change for the better or change for the worse. We have been part of this community for many years. We want to ensure things improve instead of regress. To everyone who has said similar things as Kaeru, please don't regurgitate some quotes you heard blindly and think for yourself. I've refrained from commenting until now but why the hell are you obsessed with this? You can not want the redesign but making neo nazi analogies towards those who would welcome a new layout is really really fucking stupid. Yea; everyone in the last 7 pages understands that you don't like this proposed change. We get it. | ||
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trada
Germany347 Posts
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On May 28 2015 05:05 darthfoley wrote: I've refrained from commenting until now but why the hell are you obsessed with this? You can not want the redesign but making neo nazi analogies towards those who would welcome a new layout is really really fucking stupid. Yea; everyone in the last 7 pages understands that you don't like this proposed change. We get it. Yeah that guy is kind of awful. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On May 28 2015 05:05 darthfoley wrote: I've refrained from commenting until now but why the hell are you obsessed with this? You can not want the redesign but making neo nazi analogies towards those who would welcome a new layout is really really fucking stupid. Yea; everyone in the last 7 pages understands that you don't like this proposed change. We get it. I think you've misunderstood me because you seem like a level headed person. If "neo nazis" were the problem, I'll swap it for incompetent donkeys, and my analogy still stands. All I meant with neo nazis was an example of the epitome of a bad change (of government). And there analogies were meant to demonstrate how change can be bad. Not one word against the design or anyone in that post. On May 27 2015 21:00 Kaeru wrote: People hate change. But change is necessary. These are all lifestyle changes. Are any of these necessary? No, because things can change for the better or change for the worse. I assume the neo-nazi analogy was a sensitive issue that you couldn't see past so I hope you can see that all I mean was changes can be good or bad, that Kaeru's 2 liner was dismissing everyone who didn't like change for being stubborn old dogs, instead of the reality which is some welcome change but not this particular one, because this is bad in our opinion, and I gave examples of "bad changes" to show how changes can be for the worse. More from my earlier here. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/486200-teamliquid-redesign?page=7#137111 I have nothing against people who liked it. I disagree with them but I have to respect their opinions, especially BookTwo for his effort. Or else I'd have said some shit to other people like proper artists that I respect a lot like ZeroCartin, who happened to like it. And if you read my post properly it was directed towards people who regurgitated quotes blindly, not towards people who liked the design. Kaeru, however was being disrespectful, and I called him out on it. Hope that clears things up. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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jackacea
66 Posts
Oh, and please please please dont add a Upvote/Downvote or Like system, in my opinion they give false incentive to comment, plus, i'd rather judge a comment or article based on its content than on its (possibly) biased reviews. | ||
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Latham
9568 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On May 28 2015 07:19 SpunXtain20 wrote: I can't believe the amount of negative comments. This guy has done a fantastic job, and I'd push to action it immediately. TL looks so 2000'n'late. What's wrong with that though? The current trend seems to be to draw the attention to all the bells and whistles instead of to the actual content (i.e. the text). I hate how distracting web design has become: extra-large images, enlarged quotes, ads everywhere .. I'm still waiting for a "reader" option in IE that filters out everything that is not text. | ||
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BartCraft
Netherlands45 Posts
Change is a part of life. I think TL should embrace the suggestion of change. This guy put in a ton of free time and did a great job in my eyes. The suggestion that TL should never change and the past has been always better. come on guys, you can't be serious, with that attitude we will make TL in relevant because no new people will visit. | ||
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SinTio
Germany871 Posts
On May 28 2015 21:36 BartCraft wrote: Yeah caves were perfect. You only had a rock you had to move to open and close it, it really had no bells and whistles, only raw material that worked. You could stay in it and being salty about everything and shout to everyone who wants change. Change is a part of life. I think TL should embrace the suggestion of change. This guy put in a ton of free time and did a great job in my eyes. The suggestion that TL should never change and the past has been always better. come on guys, you can't be serious, with that attitude we will make TL in relevant because no new people will visit. So personally preferring more information over big nice looking pictures now makes you a caveman. AND all change is always good. Can't be that in his personal opinion the big pictures push way too much information offscreen and he dislikes that. Nah, he is against change. Btw. I also dislike those pics. Same goes with the preview for the streams. On desktop at least. On mobile, on the otherhand I'd understand the change. | ||
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Anvil666
Germany122 Posts
I, too, can't believe how many people here are flat out hating on the guy. He's making a proposal. If you don't like it, then say so, but with the appropriate respect. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On May 28 2015 21:36 BartCraft wrote: Yeah caves were perfect. You only had a rock you had to move to open and close it, it really had no bells and whistles, only raw material that worked. You could stay in it and being salty about everything and shout to everyone who wants change. Change is a part of life. I think TL should embrace the suggestion of change. This guy put in a ton of free time and did a great job in my eyes. The suggestion that TL should never change and the past has been always better. come on guys, you can't be serious, with that attitude we will make TL in relevant because no new people will visit. He did a great job at designing something he thought would work and spent a lot of hours into it, which was his own decision, but as a person who works in this field, you can't just completely redesign a site that has A LOT of visits a day and not expect backlash. This is a long process, it takes time to really change a design to suit everyones needs, you have to test and keep testing to make sure it will work. Currently the format of how the threads are and the colors are great, but the box layout though, maybe not so much since more less everyone has a smart phone. They're still on tables and don't use current front end development techniques when they can. I'm positive everyone on this site is using a modern browser (if you're a gamer and still using IE, I'm sad [should say it in the analytics]), so updating directly to HTML5/CSS3 will work no matter what. In my opinion, the front end should be the first to be updated so it can later start picking up design changes. The design should be the last thing on their mind if they're going to change anything about the site. | ||
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Zync
Netherlands5 Posts
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
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Odowan Paleolithic
United States232 Posts
For mobile platform the proposed design will be better (for clicking). The current design is more condensed. | ||
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