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On April 22 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:
-shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP
so give me something not concrete
i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread
as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything.
that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight
if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively
lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads ><
you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that ><
i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning
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Blazinghand
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Damdred is a solid lynch today. His posts don't show a mindset of someone trying to sovle the game.
Let's take a look at how things start off. The game begins, and Damdred starts off with some typical troll posts that you see at the start of games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24117712
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24117713
which are unmeaningful. A page or two later, Damdred starts complaining about votes being thrown around (link) and says he hates it. He doesn't explicitly state that he thinks it's a bad idea, but there you go. Then, he says he hasn't read the game, then, he votes me (link) for "not playing" when the game is at its very outset. This is almost the definition of a vote being "thrown around", something that damdred hates. Then, he says he thinks I'm scum (link) in response to someone saying he needs to play, even though he is supposedly town and admits taht he hasn't played ("I'll play don't worry"). So,w hat's Damdred even thinking here?
Like, the people who come in later and want to policy me for having an excuse, sure, that's fine. The people who hate me for not posting for 24 hours, I get them. These are all actually reasonable reasons to scumread me. It is literally Classic Blazinghand play to use an IRL excuse to not play. (I would note, by the way, that I merely asked for more time, something easily attained in this game-- surely there's no problem there. This isn't a traditional deadline game). Regardless of their own skills, people can reasonably say that me posting after 18 hours saying "haha IRL reasonz duderz" is classic scum Blazinghand. And it is.
But what's Damdred doing here?
and then, look at this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24118610
Damdy posts a list post here, in which he states that I'm scum and he would vote for woS, and various other thoughts. Do we see any progression up to this? Does this actually do anything to help anyone? Of course not. Does he have questions for others, does he want to look at the game? No, he does not. This isn't Damdred pushing his ideas, this isn't Damdred trying to convince peopel to vote me even, it's just... filler. And he even calls it silly. That doesn't make it not scummy, that he calls it silly.
He later comes, and uh, asks himself some questions (link). The fact that he asks himself the questions is like, minorly townie I guess since he's having fun. I don't think it really makes him town though.
now he goes calling me scum based on me being "active elsewhere", (link) which seems pretty strange to me given that the only place I was posting (IIRC) was posting the D1 post to start the newbie game, which was actually before the start of Hapa's game. If I'm really active elsewhere, Damdred, why not bring exampels? Why not quote or link the posts I'm making elsewhere, or whatever? Now maybe it's against your ethics or whatever, but wait a second, clearly it's NOT since you mentioned it. So, another accusation with no oomph, more statements without real backup. Let's take a look at Damdy's post in more depths and let's see if he's actually contributing here, or just making noise.
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.
This is nothing. This is like, not even trying to scumhunt. First off, I don't see any actual mention of games. What experience? Maybe it's just a light meta read of trfel, but where did this come from? Even a mention of like "when I played with him in cell and he was scum there" or whatever (as I think Damdred says later in his filter about me) would make sense, but we don't see anything. Also worth noting here that this read isn't something you'd capitalize on. In fact, this entire paragraph is just scummier. "Towards the bottom of null" is like, the least read you can give someone that will most likely make me think you're scum.
Here's what this looks like to me. Damdy wants to lynch trfel, maybe later, so he can't be seen actively defending trrfel without getting some heat. He doesn't want to lynch trfel yet though, he's hoping to get a wagon rolling on me in the first 24h. If he actively turns up the heat on trfel he'd have to commit to it, or talk about it, and genearlly as scum Damdy wants as little preassure as possible. so he makes this minor read on trfel. It "sets up" for his later scumread, but for now, bam, looks vague enough he won't get pressed on it, but gives him some cred later. town wouldn't bother wasting all this time talking about a "bottom of null" read. Definitey scum move.
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.
this could be an emptry quote and it would share the same amount of info. Damdred here isn't doing anything useful or providing insights, but the buddying with Breshke comes nonetheless.
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level. So, I don't even understand how anyone can let damdred get away with this paragraph. He's like, talking about the "uneveness" between how wave treats art and yamato? again, no evidence, other than he notes that wave has a different opinion on art and yam's alignment. You can't just call something strange and make it strange. What a vague read! Another classic scum move.
We can look at the followup to this to see more revelatory info about Damdred (and I thank rsoultin for being in thread to draw this out"
On April 21 2015 15:24 rsoultin wrote:
so you're not satisfied with his explanation at the bottom of the previous page? mind saying why not?
On April 21 2015 15:26 Damdred wrote:
How can you be satisfied with such a drastic over reaction? Arts is is a great player who sheeped onto what at that point in time a joke vote with a seemingly joke phrase and vote. And wave gives this as a response I don't buy it at all, its over explaining and not really saying anything
On April 21 2015 15:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 15:26 Damdred wrote:
How can you be satisfied with such a drastic over reaction? Arts is is a great player who sheeped onto what at that point in time a joke vote with a seemingly joke phrase and vote. And wave gives this as a response I don't buy it at all, its over explaining and not really saying anything the overreaction is explained by not understanding the lynch mechanic xP and he wasn't the only one who didn't understand it daaaaamdy as for the artie vs. yama thing...i don't agree with the analysis but i don't think wrong = scum lol >< and can see how he arrived at the conclusion now that he's explained it do you have a specific example(s) of the bh meta you were referring to?
On April 21 2015 15:29 Damdred wrote:
Literally it might be one of the worst reasons to town read someone ever. Do scum never do pressure votes or joke votes and then not do much else?
So, leaving off the reply about my meta (which is actually interesting), here's the Wave post they were talking about:
On April 21 2015 13:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the absolute final time.
I'm going to spell it out so it's absolutely crystal fucking clear, and if it's still not enough then just go ahead and lynch me for it or some shit because unless it's going somewhere, this is ridiculous already.
Yamato gave some reason directly referencing something he said to me outside of the game that i don't remember, probably something he jokingly said to me at some point yesterday or the day before...? I don't consider that a reason because it has zero direct reference to anything that occurs within the confines of this game and is directly related to something yamato and I supposedly talked about. As that is the case, he would do it as either alignment since supposedly he said he would do it and therefore is completely alignment UNindicative.
Artanis' reason I have no knowledge of and has no direct reference to me, so I naturally find it a little odder to bring something like that up---it is my opinion that that could draw more attention than something yamato can directly reference to something he and I supposedly did
First off, I think we can all agree this is a pretty bullshit explanation. The more likely truth is that Waveofshadow wasn't paying attention or got confused or something, and is now embarassed about it, and invented an explanation. "Oh, Yamato referenced an out of game thing that I have since forgotten about, and that's the reason" is like, actually one of the worst explanations I have ever heard. The thign is, though, if WoS were scum and had the freedom to invent an explanation, he'd probably come up with a good one. the only reason he'd use such a lame explanation is if there's a kernel of truth to it. Maybe he and Yamato are lovers IRL, for example, and it was a whisper passed between them in the bedsheets. Who knows. The point is, the fact that woS is being so strikingly weird about his not-an-affair reason for not scumreading Yams is actually evidence WoS as town. No way scum comes up with something so strange.
So, rsoultin rightly notes that the overexplaining is a town thing. Damdred calls it an overreaction and doesn't say why that's actually scummy. What's happening here is that Damdred isn't having a scumread follow a logic. Instead of observation + logic -> scumread, he's doing scumread + observation -> logic. In other words, he's using what happened in thread, plus his PLAN to scumread WoS (who is very bad at defending himself in general) and then CREATING FALSE LOGIC to populate his read. Basically, Damdred isn't finding the truth, he's stating a read in his head then working back from it to find an explanatino. That's why he says stuff like "it's the worst town read" or whatever without explaninig why, because there *is* no "why", not until Damdred creates it.
Moving on, Damdred (link) reasonably brings up some of my past games, though in Aperture I don't think I mentioned anything IRL, I mostly just goofed around and rode my claim (and boy did I ride it!) to victory. Cell mafia I am pretty sure I pretended to be moving house. That was fucking awesome. hahaha. Man I'm awesome. In any case, just cause Damdy's right that I'm an amazing scum player doesn't mean that he's town. Scum isn't forbidden from saying true things; it happens.
At this point, Damdred comes back after 13 hours, and in the past 13 hours, I have made this post:
On April 22 2015 01:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey guys, yesterday was my last day at my old job and today is my first day at my new one. Can't check tl mafia at ork during my first day on the job, sorry. I haven't read the thread and won't be able to until 00:00 GMT (+00:00)'£. Please extend day by 24 hours and dint lynch me
Now let's say you're Damdred as town somehow. You think Blazinghand is pulling the classic "I am blazinghand and I alone out of all TL Mafia players have the manliness to lie about IRL things". You fucking CALL it, youv ote him, then you come back to the thread and he has made one SOLITARY post int he first like 18 hours of the game, and it's LITERALLY AN IRL EXCUSE.
What's your response? Do you:
A) Call BH scum and quote his single post
B) Call BH scum and note that he played just as you acted.
C) Start asking other players why they're accepted BH's bad excuses, and call him scum.
or...
D) make some vague noises at BH, but UNVOTE HIM AND VOTE SOMEONE ELSE
well, guess what kids, Damdy went with D. Now look, I'm not saying Damdred has to spend 100% of his time paying attention to me. I get it, he has to pretend to have otehr reads too. But the first 2 hours after damdred comes back to thread post Blazinghand-post, he only makes these two posts:
On April 22 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:
Maybe some of it was rehashed I can't remember honestly ^^. But keep talking about me its good to have a new focal point today
On April 22 2015 05:10 Damdred wrote:
I don't like that post especially that town read on wave hrm.
The first one concerning people scumreading him for his notably scummy actions. The second one saying he doens't like trfel for the WoS townread. Eventually, he calls me out, 2 hours later-- and this is fine, maybe it took him 2 hours to read the thread somehow, even though he read other things, or no actually that makes no sense. Damdred makes no sense. He forgot he was scumreading me probably then had to make up for it with humor.
On April 22 2015 06:32 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys my name is bh, I'm moving so I won't be doing much don't lynch me give me time.-scum bh
HEY GUYS I HAVE A NEW JOB WONT DO ANYTHING FOR AWHILE SO DONT LYNCH ME-BH this game
Don't let the fact that he's humorous distract you from the fact that he's not actually focussed on me. The killer is here though:
On April 22 2015 07:10 Damdred wrote:
##unvote
##Vote artanis
Lets do this, if he's Scum we get a great lynch if he's not oh well statistics. But seriously his approach is scummy
Ok so let'st ake a look at what Damdred has said about Art so far: he's said ARt is null and he's also said Art was joking. He called out WoS FOR CALLING OUT ART. Then he votes art for being lazy. Which I get. You maybe do that to pressure people for funsies. But tehre's no follow up on me.
at this point, we're getting up to 24 hours into the game, and Damdred's posts are no longer caring about the fact that, as far as he claims, BH IS LITERALLY PLAYING BH SCUM META. Remember, Damdred CALLED this. he VOTED me for this. Sow hat's he up to?
On April 22 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
That's part of the bad thing about a sorta iml nobody wants to play unless they have to.
As such I think arts actions are scummy and we should,make him play
Oh, right, Arts isn't playing. What about your main scumread, Damdred? What about the guy who has literally made one post, a post saying he wasn't playing?
There's no way Damdred is ACTUALLY having these thoughts. If he was spending his time thinking about people not playing, he'd bring me up again. Maybe nto a lot; buit at least once. And wait, let's look at that vote post again. Let's just TAKE A FUCKIN LOOK:
On April 22 2015 07:10 Damdred wrote:
Lets do this, if he's Scum we get a great lynch if he's not oh well statistics. But seriously his approach is scummy
EMPHASIS MINE. Yes, I emphasised the whole post. READ IT. READ IT. He's obviously distancing himself from the outcome. Look at this! oh, if Art isn't scum, well, STATISTICS. Fuck, when I say statistics (when I RNG, that is), I at least back it up with REAL STATISTICS. Look at this? He doesn't even say Art is scum! He just says the approach is scummy and he's PREPARING for a townflip. Who votes like this? Who THINKS like this?
Damdred is fabricating the whole read and it shows.
his resposne to pressure is this:
On April 22 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
Lol rsoultin
On April 22 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Sure it's a good idea. Would be fun for me not for town
On April 22 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Though rs reasons are well documented why are you scumming me again trfel
trfel unvotes damdred saying he was voting to "make a point" and asks if damdred gets it (note trfel: I'm watching you) and damdred says:
On April 22 2015 07:23 Damdred wrote:
Nope not really.
On April 22 2015 07:25 Damdred wrote:
Me not playing the game as I should be is meh but I go through spurts where I just shit around, granted I know I do it and it's a conscious decision not,to,change Barbados of my game.
However art isn't the same type of creature
Again, talking about absence, but no evidence about art's meta (remember how he had that about mine? Why is this case even on art and not me, for whom it's like, actually a case? WTF), just balthering.
On April 22 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote:
Apparently I want to go to Barbados however, that doesn't explain at all why if we lynch it should,be me
not sure what's going on here.
Wos scumreads Trfel for Trfel's scummy activities, and Damdred says:
On April 22 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Waves getting town points here for good line of thinking
which is again, meaningless.
He makes a bunch of strange posts that don't really do anything about me. It's now 24 hours in, and Damdred is making posts like this:
On April 22 2015 07:59 Damdred wrote:
Hobestly, I hesitate to say this but the discussion and voting is a bit stagnant because we are trying to artificially lengthen the day and people don't feel compelled to play or goof off.
So let's honestly try to lynch someone
when me, the guy he meta-readed as scum, literally did the scum meta thing AND tried to lengthen the day. He says "people dont' feel compelled to play", how is he not thinking of me? Where's the read development? Why is he still on Artanis, even though votes don't matter?
On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though.
He says he wants to Lynch art now, but there's no case, no follow-up. Look, Damdred is in town and makes a bunch of posts right around this time, probably like 10 over the course of 6 hours. That's fine and dandy, I'm not saying he has to be an activity monster or make tons of posts. But like, why isn't he pushing his read. Breshke even senses something is off and asks Damdred if he really actually wants to lynch Art. It's a reasonable question to ask because Damdred isn't acting like someone who actually wants to be responsible for a lynch, or someone with a scumread. Damdred is just putting his vote places. He's making "scumreads" and "townreads" but tehre's no UNDERLYING THOUGHT PROCESS.
Look, there's a lot of things scum can fake. Scum and "make reads" and "vote" and whatever. Hell, scum can even be right about things, liek calling out lurkers, or pointing out my meta. That's fine. What scum can't easily fake, though, is a town thought process. Think about what you know about finding scum-- a lot of it has to do with things not lining up, with scum backtracking ideas or not making sense or diverging from how they act as town. They don't think the same things, so they ahve to fake it. Damdred doesn't actually thyink I'm scum or Art is scum. If he REALLY thought tehse things, he'd TALK about it. He wouldn't hang out bickering whether some dude is nulltown or nullscum when he's got a vote out on Art. He'd talk about Art. He wouldn't hang out balthering about people not playing because of time issues, when i'm literally doing that.
Damdred, if he were town, would be ALL OVER me. His entire filter would be like that humorous post he made about me saying I need more time. Even if he did switch to Art, he'd actually switch. Heck, maybe he'd still lambast me a bit. And he'd press the art issue. He wouldn't be like,
On April 22 2015 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Ok wave you are up with rs now. Not lynching you
When he could have a filter full of
On April 22 2015 06:32 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys my name is bh, I'm moving so I won't be doing much don't lynch me give me time.-scum bh
HEY GUYS I HAVE A NEW JOB WONT DO ANYTHING FOR AWHILE SO DONT LYNCH ME-BH this game
and LEGIT follow-up. He'd HAVE the read, not just SAY the read.
Damdred is faking this, 100%. It's all artificial. He's scum. I've proven that. Let's kill him.
##Damdred
oh btw I'm back, BITCHES
EBWOP
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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can you please tldr that monster for when i return, bh, and while you're at it explain why no rng lynch this game and where your usual method of using quotes went?
i'm not your typical big post = town sorta girl
other reads would be good, too
nite -_-
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btw, only one i'm 98% sure is town this game is truffle, for what it's worth
everyone else i think i filtered too early one direction or another and need to look at again
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*golf clap*
I suppose I could dissect it and destroy the argument. But I don't think I will and see reactions to it because that's the fun way to go
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Though a lot of it is narrative that ignores a lot of the context in the thread to make me look bad. I will say that, like the vote for instance early about how I hate early votes when I didn't realize it wasn't normal IML.
But i'm here for a bit if anyone wants to talk
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Ill properly read the bh thing later.
Damdred can you talk to me about rso. Why is she so townie to you like she makes me feel like an ass but i remember getting that feeling last game when she was scum as well.
On April 22 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:
-shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP
so give me something not concrete
i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread
as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything. that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads >< you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that ><i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning
Like that bolded bit is so weird to come from someone who has been townreading yamato all game but i get if she is town she is frustrated but I don't put it past her to be able to fake it as scum.
So basically give me your read on her.
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It was mainly a tone read and a gut read earlier in the game and I really felt like RS has been reaching decent conclusions to a point and the interactions she had with myself and others. And calling me out and the reasons she did so were pretty good I felt like.
I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town.
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On April 21 2015 16:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo
add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_-
IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS ><
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 22 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
can you please tldr that monster for when i return, bh, and while you're at it explain why no rng lynch this game and where your usual method of using quotes went?
i'm not your typical big post = town sorta girl
other reads would be good, too
nite -_-
there's one at the bottom, but if you who are "asleep" since this post aren't gonna take time to read a post I spent all that time working on, then that only reflects poorly on you and does not oblige me to add a second summary to my post
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On April 22 2015 14:18 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
can you please tldr that monster for when i return, bh, and while you're at it explain why no rng lynch this game and where your usual method of using quotes went?
i'm not your typical big post = town sorta girl
other reads would be good, too
nite -_- there's one at the bottom, but if you who are "asleep" since this post aren't gonna take time to read a post I spent all that time working on, then that only reflects poorly on you and does not oblige me to add a second summary to my post
sweetie i read your entire post so you can put away the attitude
it doesn't make it any less of a bitch to read...and if the paragraph at the end where you're telling stories is your version of a tldr, that's just atrociously bad. the only purpose for a gigantic post like that which is practically unreadable is to make it look like you put a lot of effort into something. the facts that you're trying to highlight, please, in an easy, readable format, and if you must interpret it, keep it brief
hate narratives -_- anyone can write a narrative
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On April 22 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
It was mainly a tone read and a gut read earlier in the game and I really felt like RS has been reaching decent conclusions to a point and the interactions she had with myself and others. And calling me out and the reasons she did so were pretty good I felt like.
I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town.
Hmm ok thanks I just havn't really felt the conclusions bit so if you have any specific examples that would be great but im going to be going back and looking anyway.
On April 22 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 16:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_- IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS ><
Yes i saw that but i also saw this which came after
On April 22 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:On April 21 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote:
i like yama and palmar this game so far Wait, rsoultin, why did you say this? the one on palmar was retracted xP you actually quoted the quote you ninny as for yama, i just have generally liked how he's approached the game so far, between the joke vote, pushing wave but not continuing to antagonize him when it reached a certain point -shrugs- not sure where exactly the quote fell in all that, but i've felt generally good about yama through most of the game
I have no idea why you are being so quick tempered. I'm pushing on you? Great fucking decide if im town or mafia doing it and explain why im wrong or push back on me. If youre town and you think im town yeah it can be frustrating but im allowed to be wrong. If you think im mafia then why do you even care.
Don't give me this pissed off bullshit where you say im trying to get you on tilt, I don't even get where you think id take that path as mafia.
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On April 22 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:Ill properly read the bh thing later. Damdred can you talk to me about rso. Why is she so townie to you like she makes me feel like an ass but i remember getting that feeling last game when she was scum as well. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:
-shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP
so give me something not concrete
i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread
as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything. that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads >< you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that ><i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning Like that bolded bit is so weird to come from someone who has been townreading yamato all game but i get if she is town she is frustrated but I don't put it past her to be able to fake it as scum. So basically give me your read on her.
Really like this post.
Breshke you town bro?
Like....this explanation for the oddness really isn't enough. You go from 'slightly less townread' on yamato to full on scum setting you up, and the paranoia doesn't look real. The rage might be though, and it would be hypocritical of me to assume otherwise.
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^^ oh and that probably wasn't clear but the latter half of my post is directed at rsoul
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Breshke let her cool down and talk to me about BH's monstrosity and Damdred for a bit.
Did you read that post? Do you have any primary thoughts?
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On April 22 2015 14:34 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
It was mainly a tone read and a gut read earlier in the game and I really felt like RS has been reaching decent conclusions to a point and the interactions she had with myself and others. And calling me out and the reasons she did so were pretty good I felt like.
I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town. Hmm ok thanks I just havn't really felt the conclusions bit so if you have any specific examples that would be great but im going to be going back and looking anyway. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 16:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_- IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS >< Yes i saw that but i also saw this which came after Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:On April 21 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote:
i like yama and palmar this game so far Wait, rsoultin, why did you say this? the one on palmar was retracted xP you actually quoted the quote you ninny as for yama, i just have generally liked how he's approached the game so far, between the joke vote, pushing wave but not continuing to antagonize him when it reached a certain point -shrugs- not sure where exactly the quote fell in all that, but i've felt generally good about yama through most of the game I have no idea why you are being so quick tempered. I'm pushing on you? Great fucking decide if im town or mafia doing it and explain why im wrong or push back on me. If youre town and you think im town yeah it can be frustrating but im allowed to be wrong. If you think im mafia then why do you even care. Don't give me this pissed off bullshit where you say im trying to get you on tilt, I don't even get where you think id take that path as mafia.
i don't know and i'm not looking right now -_- i don't know that you'd do this as mafia or not, and frankly at the moment i don't care that much >< you want to know why i'm pissed?
On April 22 2015 11:42 Trfel wrote:
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She's being annoying and commenting on everything, with very high "entertainment" standards. But she's not doing anything interesting herself.
It makes her town.
now truffle i'm pretty sure is town, and this sort of bullshit makes me not want to play at all. i've arguably been one of the most active people in the thread trying to push people to actually contribute and evaluating what's being said, and this is what people come up with >< so excuse me if i don't really give a shit what alignment you are right now, or even if you realized you were echoing him or not
but why should i fucking try if it's worthless >< now leave me the fuck alone tonight if you're town, cause you're not helping. if you're scum whatever. it must be fun to watch. you can haha in the qt
you're wrong because its OBVIOUS to anyone reading my filter that you're wrong >< that or my posts really are completely worthless and y'all should have told me a lot sooner so i didn't waste the last several months with this game
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On April 22 2015 14:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:Ill properly read the bh thing later. Damdred can you talk to me about rso. Why is she so townie to you like she makes me feel like an ass but i remember getting that feeling last game when she was scum as well. On April 22 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:
-shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP
so give me something not concrete
i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread
as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything. that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads >< you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that ><i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning Like that bolded bit is so weird to come from someone who has been townreading yamato all game but i get if she is town she is frustrated but I don't put it past her to be able to fake it as scum. So basically give me your read on her. Really like this post. Breshke you town bro? Like....this explanation for the oddness really isn't enough. You go from 'slightly less townread' on yamato to full on scum setting you up, and the paranoia doesn't look real. The rage might be though, and it would be hypocritical of me to assume otherwise.
don't care >< it's a shitty ass association with bresh anyway...he should be fine with that since he's all for shitty-ass association scumreads right now anyway ^^ since he's already aligned me with yamato saying we were pushing the same things when we weren't multiple times, no, it wouldn't fucking surprise me if yamato flips scum that breshke is his partner and trying to draw that association
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I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
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