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Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell.
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On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that
On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell.
lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs?
meh -_-
i don't like bh's wall >< he can die
a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was!
that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^
see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me
i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me
and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah
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So you did read it?
Like....do I have to tiptoe around you now or can we talk? Or are you actually done for the night?
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On April 22 2015 15:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell. lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs? meh -_- i don't like bh's wall >< he can die a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was! that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^ see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah
so, do you think damdred is town or scum? you have successfully described my case, but you have not actually given your thoughts in response to it in a full way. I get it, you want to talk about me, but I'm literally ignoring things other than scum damdred right now. I don't care whether or not you care about my other reads. What are you gonna do, vote me? you already did that. You're clearly not asleep. You've read my case. You say the problem with it is that it's a "narrative", as though that means something. Come on rsoultin. Get your head in the game.
What do you think of Damdred? You claim you've expressed suspicion of Damdred, but you don't say what the read is on Damdred now. What do you think of Damdred's mindset? What do you think of damdred's play in general? I'm basically 100% right so I know you'r dodging here
stop dodging, or at least own the dodge.
I refuse to talk about other things.
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Actually that post kind of answered a couple questions I had about you except for one.
see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me
I was going to question you on your lack of scumreads despite the length and seeming depth of your filter and I'm ok with the pseudo-explanation after that quote, but I just hope you realize self-meta is even worse than regular meta.
Not having scumreads in general I judge on a case-by-case basis. In your case I'd wonder why you didn't have scumreads considering how you've been directing traffic for much of the game it seems but a seemingly weaker player I might not question it. In trfel's case given his current aggression I would actually expect something a little more from him. I still really don't like that 'vote on/vote off' bullshit he pulled earlier.
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On April 22 2015 15:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell. lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs? meh -_- i don't like bh's wall >< he can die a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was! that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^ see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah
Cool im not backpedeling on you im just giving you pace because if I keep pushing on you and you keep reacting the same way what information do i get?
You can take as many digs and missuse my meta as you want. 9 Player games with 2 scum are totally different to 13 players and large games. I don't care I just got a call saying i got the job i applied for the other week so im extremely happy right now and you should be as well rsoul.
I like your bh stuff. Like even if i really like his wall post i still wouldnt call him town because one post calling a majority of someones post scummy isn't enough. I also didn't like his reaction to you.
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On April 22 2015 15:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 15:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell. lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs? meh -_- i don't like bh's wall >< he can die a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was! that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^ see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah so, do you think damdred is town or scum? you have successfully described my case, but you have not actually given your thoughts in response to it in a full way. I get it, you want to talk about me, but I'm literally ignoring things other than scum damdred right now. I don't care whether or not you care about my other reads. What are you gonna do, vote me? you already did that. You're clearly not asleep. You've read my case. You say the problem with it is that it's a "narrative", as though that means something. Come on rsoultin. Get your head in the game. What do you think of Damdred? You claim you've expressed suspicion of Damdred, but you don't say what the read is on Damdred now. What do you think of Damdred's mindset? What do you think of damdred's play in general? I'm basically 100% right so I know you'r dodging here stop dodging, or at least own the dodge. I refuse to talk about other things.
Is this Wade Fell or Old Partner?
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And Breshke I'd still like to talk with you
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i'm capable of talking -_- i'm just not in a good place to try to reevaluate anything right now
obviously i have scumreads, or at least scumleans, so asking me again is not helpful when i just talked about it in the post you quoted that from ^^ and no i don't care if self-meta is bad, considering it doesn't even apply in this case
as for you, bh, if i was applying your philosophy i'd simply refuse to talk to you about damdred
your post is overblown. i don't like it. you haven't commented on anything else, and literally everything you actually brought up in that case has been said before. frankly, it's like a giant steaming turd of conjecture and unoriginality ^^
damdy i started to like later in the day, then he started playing with the deadline and i didn't like that. if y'all want more you're gonna have to wait
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On April 22 2015 15:12 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 15:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell. lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs? meh -_- i don't like bh's wall >< he can die a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was! that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^ see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah Cool im not backpedeling on you im just giving you pace because if I keep pushing on you and you keep reacting the same way what information do i get? You can take as many digs and missuse my meta as you want. 9 Player games with 2 scum are totally different to 13 players and large games. I don't care I just got a call saying i got the job i applied for the other week so im extremely happy right now and you should be as well rsoul. I like your bh stuff. Like even if i really like his wall post i still wouldnt call him town because one post calling a majority of someones post scummy isn't enough. I also didn't like his reaction to you.
it's fine if you scumread me as long as you scumread Damdred more and lynch him first. When he flips scum you can apologise to me for doubting me
so what do you think of the various inconsistencies in Damdred's thought process that I've pointed out? After all, you sheeped the Damdred Wagon based on the Damdred Reasoning, and now that I've poitned out that Damdred's thought process doesn't make sense, you who had a real version (presumably) of said thought process should find it very interesting. I know you were townreading Damdred, but had some doubts that were cleared up by him. How do you feel now, in light of this new well-presented evidence?
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On April 22 2015 15:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
And Breshke I'd still like to talk with you
hold up didnt see your post from before replying now
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On April 22 2015 15:18 rsoultin wrote:
i'm capable of talking -_- i'm just not in a good place to try to reevaluate anything right now
obviously i have scumreads, or at least scumleans, so asking me again is not helpful when i just talked about it in the post you quoted that from ^^ and no i don't care if self-meta is bad, considering it doesn't even apply in this case
as for you, bh, if i was applying your philosophy i'd simply refuse to talk to you about damdred
your post is overblown. i don't like it. you haven't commented on anything else, and literally everything you actually brought up in that case has been said before. frankly, it's like a giant steaming turd of conjecture and unoriginality ^^
damdy i started to like later in the day, then he started playing with the deadline and i didn't like that. if y'all want more you're gonna have to wait
your very unusual resistance to talking about Damdred who i have demonstrated to have a scum mindset is noted. Thanks for your time :D
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On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell.
that's what i'm talking about on the backpedaling...you said you had nothing concrete in the way of scumreads then brought that point up...saying it was odd xP if you're gonna tell me that's not softing a scumread that's just bs
i appreciate the room, though -_-
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point out a single original thing in that wall bh, and if you can, i will apologize to you and talk to you about damdy till the cows come home, so long as you're willing to discuss like literally anything else as well ^^
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On April 22 2015 14:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Breshke let her cool down and talk to me about BH's monstrosity and Damdred for a bit.
Did you read that post? Do you have any primary thoughts?
Sorry i actually didn't see this.
I like skim read through it skipped a few bits in the end/middle. I feel bad on commenting on stuff like that before reading it properly because if bh is town or scum he obviously put a lot of effort into it for me to just come and be like didnt read it here's what i think.
Anyway first off i don't like how it feels like he was trying to push scum on what felt like every single thing that damdred has posted. I don't think if someone is scum that they are scum in all their posts if that makes sense.
Some of the early stuff I think bh had a problem with can be explained by damdred thinking it was standard IML and then being told it wasn't(this is referring to the throwing away vote thing) . I can see how BH would miss this as if you read damdreds filter (I assume this is what happend) and not the game you wouldn't really get the grasp of that.
Then i don't really rememebr much else from it other than the point about him voting artanis after BH came in with his excuse that damdred predicted. I liked this point and it is odd but damdred did say to me that his vote on artanis was trying to make stuff happen so i can see a world where he would push on artanis instead of BH here because more people would react to the artanis push whereas a push on bh would get put down as a plynch
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On April 22 2015 15:23 rsoultin wrote:
point out a single original thing in that wall bh, and if you can, i will apologize to you and talk to you about damdy till the cows come home, so long as you're willing to discuss like literally anything else as well ^^
So, since bits and pieces of it have been mentioned by others, me gathering it in one place is so offensive to your sensibilities that you refuse to discuss it? Fine, pretend it's not a post and I'm just summarizing thread sentiment, if that's what it takes for you to talk about the best case. I don't care whether or not it's framed as whatever. I don't care what your opinion is of me. I 100% promise that I will talk about other things, like why Yamato77 hasn't responded to the case, for example, but the fact of the matter is, you have a responsibility as a lesser player to follow my lead on this, or, failing that, respond to my case in a way that demonstrates WHY you disagree with the points. You can't just say "oh yeah, it's a narrative, and narratives are bad" or something. That's not even, like, an objection, man. Damdred's thought process _does not make sense_. The fact that you were unwilling to find the summary at the bottom initially doesn't give you a right to have a zealous vendetta against talking to the best player in the game about the best case in the game. Get it together
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
BTW the case is like 8 paragraphs, tops. The fact that there's resistance to reading it is pretty apalling. There are a lot of quotes in there, sure, but you've already read the quotes, assuming you've read the thread. It's not like it's so long that by tghe time you get to the end of it you can't "remember" what was at the start (Breshke >.>)
And yes, I was pointing out how most of what Damdred said was scummy, but MOST OF WHAT DAMDRED SAID WAS SCUMMY. Like, legit the dude is scum. Also, I'm not saying that literally every post he makes pushes a scum agenda. I'm noting how they serve his agenda, and hwo they don't link together into a town mindset. I also concede some stuff that DOES link together and is right. In fact, I explicitly state scum CAN be right, as his meta analysis of my willinginess to use IRL stuff as scum is literally correct. But that doesn't change the fact that if you look, Damdred's thoughts DO NOT follow each other.
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On April 22 2015 15:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 15:23 rsoultin wrote:
point out a single original thing in that wall bh, and if you can, i will apologize to you and talk to you about damdy till the cows come home, so long as you're willing to discuss like literally anything else as well ^^ So, since bits and pieces of it have been mentioned by others, me gathering it in one place is so offensive to your sensibilities that you refuse to discuss it? Fine, pretend it's not a post and I'm just summarizing thread sentiment, if that's what it takes for you to talk about the best case. I don't care whether or not it's framed as whatever. I don't care what your opinion is of me. I 100% promise that I will talk about other things, like why Yamato77 hasn't responded to the case, for example, but the fact of the matter is, you have a responsibility as a lesser player to follow my lead on this, or, failing that, respond to my case in a way that demonstrates WHY you disagree with the points. You can't just say "oh yeah, it's a narrative, and narratives are bad" or something. That's not even, like, an objection, man. Damdred's thought process _does not make sense_. The fact that you were unwilling to find the summary at the bottom initially doesn't give you a right to have a zealous vendetta against talking to the best player in the game about the best case in the game. Get it together
you know what ^^ fuck you
gathering it all in one place makes you a librarian, not town, and again it looks like a gambit to get townread, cause i've seen your cases as town and they can actually be followed much easier than that shit
you're probably joking (i'd hope) but even a complete imbecile would be able to tell this 100% is not the time to pull the arrogant look down from your ego-throne card on me right now ><
good night
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I was playing DotA
what the fuck happened
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Trying to figure out if I'm a viable lynch here or not.
I'm town though
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