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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:29 strongandbig wrote: well no i mean you're ignoring again the thing where marv said as cop not to check the person you are most publicly suspicious of and i just posted that exact argument and the fact that you're ignoring it so lol OK I have a plan to convince you, i'll use it tomorrow, for now let's talk about keirathi | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote: what if lestrade has to kill moriarty to get a buff and lestrade is mafia and that's why moriarty hasn't claimed? :o moriarty would have talked to one of the towny people in pms then and had THEM claim in his place. Morty is scum, heck he's even the bad guy in sherlock | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote: what if lestrade has to kill moriarty to get a buff and lestrade is mafia and that's why moriarty hasn't claimed? :o Then moriarty would show up and say "sup guys, lestrade is mafia"? | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:29 kitaman27 wrote: All I ask is that you don't base your entire outlook on this game on the assumption that I'm mafia because I am not. idk man ive been burned before by you playing with exactly this playstyle like, think of it this way - if you are town, then that means some other vet is scum, and has been out accomplishing things while you haven't been, so if we lose it's really more on you than on me | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:30 Blazinghand wrote: OK I have a plan to convince you, i'll use it tomorrow, for now let's talk about keirathi how about we talk about kita | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On April 04 2015 03:16 strongandbig wrote: OK so false alarm. Anyway, here's my first read - this is something I've been thinking for several days now. Remember that for all of these reads, I don't have the benefit of PMs so there's a lot of information I'm lacking. So I think that Kita is mafia. The things he's pushing in thread and the kind of posts he's making are exactly the kind of things I remember him doing as mafia. - Being really active. Straight up activity has won Kita at least one game as mafia that I've been in where he was actually more active in thread than any townie; I distinctly remember the sentiment "kita can't be mafia, if he is we might as well give up because he's the only one being active." He's the kind of player who is confident enough in not getting caught out as mafia that he can put in a lot of effort and not just make a lot of posts but actually maintain thread presence. - Being really active without actually accomplishing anything. Think about it - who has he pushed this game? What has he really gotten done in terms of scumhunting? No one and nothing. And yet he's got a ten page filter, and has some of the longest posts (at least that I remember seeing when I was skimming the thread). - Making the kind of posts that demonstrate effort without actually accomplishing objectives. List posts. list posts and more list posts. But in none of those list posts does he really present and push a preferred lynch target. Also the big early BH read post. So much effort, so little conclusion. Same for the VE read post, really. - Declining activity as the game goes on and his position is more and more secure. Admittedly this one is based on my impressions, but there's a pretty clear scum motive to this trend. This isn't how Kita plays as town. I mean, unless things have changed since I was here, but I remember Kita being someone who would make plans and push things - not necessarily cases but either cases or plans or coordination. Right now I can't say Kita is pushing anything except his own activity. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
why not both? i know that kita and jat are butting heads and some people have a hardon for lynching kita. i'm unclear as to why | ||
justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:28 Crossfire99 wrote: How exactly does your check work or is it not relevant? I'm just confused at the options here. I had a one shot check: I get role and alignment. Got his role name and mafia aligned. But my sanity depends on how many people visit him except for me during the same night. 0: insane 1: sane 2: naive 3: paranoid 4: he comes up as 3rd party That's why I repeatedly asked people who visited VA to claim to me. I immediately questioned him and he told me the correct rolename at least. So if we assume noone visited him then I have a greencheck on him If marv visited him (check) then I have a redcheck on him. Since this isn't really conclusive I did not out it but statistically it would mean he is more likely to be town. I don't know if marv would check VA though. He was by far his biggest scumread. I don't know how he plays cop. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:31 strongandbig wrote: idk man ive been burned before by you playing with exactly this playstyle like, think of it this way - if you are town, then that means some other vet is scum, and has been out accomplishing things while you haven't been, so if we lose it's really more on you than on me I strongly disagree, but I'm not going to discuss how I tend to play mafia right now. Also, "if you are town, then that means some other vet is scum" this assumption cannot be justified. | ||
justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote: what if lestrade has to kill moriarty to get a buff and lestrade is mafia and that's why moriarty hasn't claimed? :o Then moriarty could have claimed in pms to any townread. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Signifying nothing. That seems solid enough if it's true. I'll examine his filter. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:33 justanothertownie wrote: I had a one shot check: I get role and alignment. Got his role name and mafia aligned. But my sanity depends on how many people visit him except for me during the same night. 0: insane 1: sane 2: naive 3: paranoid 4: he comes up as 3rd party That's why I repeatedly asked people who visited VA to claim to me. I immediately questioned him and he told me the correct rolename at least. So if we assume noone visited him then I have a greencheck on him If marv visited him (check) then I have a redcheck on him. Since this isn't really conclusive I did not out it but statistically it would mean he is more likely to be town. I don't know if marv would check VA though. He was by far his biggest scumread. I don't know how he plays cop. So you checked him night 1 then? | ||
Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:34 justanothertownie wrote: Then moriarty could have claimed in pms to any townread. Jat you and I are on the same wavelength I'm glad someone else is smart enough to think about this game like I do, and vaguely horrified it's you. I actually used to have a rather low opinion of your talent | ||
justanothertownie
16309 Posts
Correct. | ||
justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:35 Blazinghand wrote: Jat you and I are on the same wavelength I'm glad someone else is smart enough to think about this game like I do, and vaguely horrified it's you. I actually used to have a rather low opinion of your talent That's ok since I have a rather low opinion or your talent to judge other peoples talent or basically of any of your "talents". I don't know if we are on the same wavelength. I think Moriarty still hiding means you are town more likely than not. I also think if that was not the case I would have already gotten rid of you in one way or another because your play sucks ass. | ||
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 04 2015 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: That's ok since I have a rather low opinion or your talent to judge other peoples talent or basically of any of your "talents". I don't know if we are on the same wavelength. I think Moriarty still hiding means you are town more likely than not. I also think if that was not the case I would have already gotten rid of you in one way or another because your play sucks ass. I'd just like to note for the record that if people listend to me D1 we'd have actually lynched VA rather than Slam causing ruckus 1: I said we needed majority right away 2: I caught that voting Glados was an alt wincon yeah that's right, when push comes to shove, arguments aside, I was the one pushing for the truth even when it was unpopular. I'm willing to be called bad or scummy if it helps us win, and that's what makes me a better player than anyone. you guys care about what other people think, I just care about winning. It's not about putting on a show, it's about making the right calls and the right plays. and honestly? everyone plays decently, but I am willing to look like shit to do it. heck, even today i'm willing to vote damdy to avoid a NL (and i pointed out that his jester claim shouldn't cause people to unvote him) even though he's not my top lynch. I don't care about my PR, the historians shall sing my praises. | ||
justanothertownie
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