Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal - Page 266

On April 04 2015 03:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Vote is far closer than it should be considering the potential lynch manipulation roles.

On April 04 2015 03:55 Damdred wrote:
Kinda hoping yamatos ability has a limit so this isn't for nothing <<

On April 04 2015 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
we should get rid of this bh guy he's ridiculously useless/mafia

On April 04 2015 03:59 Holyflare wrote:


after damdred

On April 04 2015 03:16 strongandbig wrote:
OK so false alarm. Anyway, here's my first read - this is something I've been thinking for several days now.

Remember that for all of these reads, I don't have the benefit of PMs so there's a lot of information I'm lacking.

So I think that Kita is mafia. The things he's pushing in thread and the kind of posts he's making are exactly the kind of things I remember him doing as mafia.

- Being really active.
Straight up activity has won Kita at least one game as mafia that I've been in where he was actually more active in thread than any townie; I distinctly remember the sentiment "kita can't be mafia, if he is we might as well give up because he's the only one being active." He's the kind of player who is confident enough in not getting caught out as mafia that he can put in a lot of effort and not just make a lot of posts but actually maintain thread presence.

- Being really active without actually accomplishing anything.
Think about it - who has he pushed this game? What has he really gotten done in terms of scumhunting? No one and nothing. And yet he's got a ten page filter, and has some of the longest posts (at least that I remember seeing when I was skimming the thread).

- Making the kind of posts that demonstrate effort without actually accomplishing objectives.
List posts. list posts and more list posts. But in none of those list posts does he really present and push a preferred lynch target.
Also the big early BH read post. So much effort, so little conclusion.
Same for the VE read post, really.

- Declining activity as the game goes on and his position is more and more secure.
Admittedly this one is based on my impressions, but there's a pretty clear scum motive to this trend.

This isn't how Kita plays as town. I mean, unless things have changed since I was here, but I remember Kita being someone who would make plans and push things - not necessarily cases but either cases or plans or coordination. Right now I can't say Kita is pushing anything except his own activity.

On April 04 2015 04:00 strongandbig wrote:

and after kita

On March 31 2015 10:15 Holyflare wrote:


please, all you've done is try and discredit me at every single turn of this game for no other reason than to make yourself look better

instances: when i told you i was 3p survivor and that i claimed to all of my town reads, you decided that instead of asking them yourself it was best to look good in the thread

all of the sicklucker lynch where you were constantly discrediting his lynch based on absolutely no reason whatsoever .......? i still don't understand the reason you said it's a cop out ESPECIALLY after you were presented with good meta comparisons that proved otherwise

trying to discredit my batsnacks read despite about 5 other people saying the absolute same thing repeatedly


if i'm playing anti town this game please show me how because what i've done so far has been nothing but pro town and all you're doing is shutting down complete mafia lynches based on nothing other than <insert no reasons here>, i even shot xfire last night (although im not claiming this nk was mine because mine was poison) and you're STILL trying to discredit me


the facts are simple, marv definitely checked va, va is mafia, the only thing va has done is say he'll be back around deadline and leave again. A va that was involved in the game is normally mafia, at least one that trusts me when I was playing a bit apathetically at the time.

On April 04 2015 04:01 Holyflare wrote:


+



+ the fact that he poo poo'd the va (who is town) lynch too

On April 04 2015 04:03 strongandbig wrote:
Also - Geript told me it is okay for everyone to PM me copies of the PM chains they had with Exo. I don't know how I could prevent them from being altered, so I will be taking them all with a grain of salt, but everyone should go ahead and do that.

Crossfire actually sent them to me already, before anyone knew that this is okay. This actually makes me more suspicious towards him, rather than less, but I would rather kill Kita first anyway