Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal - Page 268

On April 04 2015 04:29 strongandbig wrote:

well no

i mean you're ignoring again the thing where marv said as cop not to check the person you are most publicly suspicious of

and i just posted that exact argument and the fact that you're ignoring it

so lol

On April 04 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
what if lestrade has to kill moriarty to get a buff and lestrade is mafia and that's why moriarty hasn't claimed? :o

On April 04 2015 04:29 kitaman27 wrote:


All I ask is that you don't base your entire outlook on this game on the assumption that I'm mafia because I am not.

On April 04 2015 04:30 Blazinghand wrote:


OK I have a plan to convince you, i'll use it tomorrow, for now let's talk about keirathi

On April 04 2015 03:16 strongandbig wrote:
OK so false alarm. Anyway, here's my first read - this is something I've been thinking for several days now.

Remember that for all of these reads, I don't have the benefit of PMs so there's a lot of information I'm lacking.

So I think that Kita is mafia. The things he's pushing in thread and the kind of posts he's making are exactly the kind of things I remember him doing as mafia.

- Being really active.
Straight up activity has won Kita at least one game as mafia that I've been in where he was actually more active in thread than any townie; I distinctly remember the sentiment "kita can't be mafia, if he is we might as well give up because he's the only one being active." He's the kind of player who is confident enough in not getting caught out as mafia that he can put in a lot of effort and not just make a lot of posts but actually maintain thread presence.

- Being really active without actually accomplishing anything.
Think about it - who has he pushed this game? What has he really gotten done in terms of scumhunting? No one and nothing. And yet he's got a ten page filter, and has some of the longest posts (at least that I remember seeing when I was skimming the thread).

- Making the kind of posts that demonstrate effort without actually accomplishing objectives.
List posts. list posts and more list posts. But in none of those list posts does he really present and push a preferred lynch target.
Also the big early BH read post. So much effort, so little conclusion.
Same for the VE read post, really.

- Declining activity as the game goes on and his position is more and more secure.
Admittedly this one is based on my impressions, but there's a pretty clear scum motive to this trend.

This isn't how Kita plays as town. I mean, unless things have changed since I was here, but I remember Kita being someone who would make plans and push things - not necessarily cases but either cases or plans or coordination. Right now I can't say Kita is pushing anything except his own activity.

On April 04 2015 04:32 strongandbig wrote:


how about we talk about kita

On April 04 2015 04:28 Crossfire99 wrote:

How exactly does your check work or is it not relevant? I'm just confused at the options here.

On April 04 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
what if lestrade has to kill moriarty to get a buff and lestrade is mafia and that's why moriarty hasn't claimed? :o

On April 04 2015 04:33 justanothertownie wrote:

I had a one shot check:

I get role and alignment. Got his role name and mafia aligned.

But my sanity depends on how many people visit him except for me during the same night.
0: insane
1: sane
2: naive
3: paranoid
4: he comes up as 3rd party

That's why I repeatedly asked people who visited VA to claim to me. I immediately questioned him and he told me the correct rolename at least.
So if we assume noone visited him then I have a greencheck on him
If marv visited him (check) then I have a redcheck on him.
Since this isn't really conclusive I did not out it but statistically it would mean he is more likely to be town. I don't know if marv would check VA though. He was by far his biggest scumread. I don't know how he plays cop.

On April 04 2015 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:

Then moriarty could have claimed in pms to any townread.

On April 04 2015 04:34 Crossfire99 wrote:

So you checked him night 1 then?

On April 04 2015 04:35 Blazinghand wrote:


Jat you and I are on the same wavelength

I'm glad someone else is smart enough to think about this game like I do, and vaguely horrified it's you. I actually used to have a rather low opinion of your talent

On April 04 2015 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:

That's ok since I have a rather low opinion or your talent to judge other peoples talent or basically of any of your "talents".
I don't know if we are on the same wavelength. I think Moriarty still hiding means you are town more likely than not. I also think if that was not the case I would have already gotten rid of you in one way or another because your play sucks ass.