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Because the game is incredible hard and people don't know who is mafia.
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On March 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote:
Because the game is incredible hard and people don't know who is mafia.
"this game is incredibly hard, so let's lynch the low hanging fruit who are confirmed town in onegu and ritoky"
sensible. you even called me lynch bait during the night. jesus do you really want me to produce a giant case on how i literally cannot be mafia this game? like it is legit impossible.
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I prefer you make a case against your mafia reads. You making a case on how townie you are is not perceived townie anyway.
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rayn might be mafia because he rescinded a PR claim, did a line of questioning arrived at a conclusion, did nothing with it, then flipped the conclusion for no reason. he also has a terrible lynch list, exact opposite of what it should be.
eden might be mafia because he peeled off his #1 scum read to team up with him and push on a low hanging fruit lynch. his excuse to get back on JAT was weak, think it was something about prp making a comment. it was bad and only done cuz 0 traction on me.
prp might be mafia because i don't remember him, and 0 ppl seem to have significant scum reads on him and i don't understand why. reminds me of oats a bit from the game i just carried.
i don't really care for marv that much, but tbh i don't have a particularly memorable reason to scum read him other than poe and onegu who is confirmed town says he is town so...idk guess pass for today.
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making the greatest case ever for why i am town anywayz so that you can all suck it
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The Grand Manifesto On Why Ritoky is Confirmed Town:
1) Trollzy play - ritoky is incapable of humor and trollzy play as mafia. recently he demonstrated some ability to do it as Serial Killer, but that is very different from mafia.
Examples of ritoky being trollzy -
cell mafia 2: ritoky spams the thread with american flags and propoganda for the first 50 pages. link
titanic return of mspaint: ritoky literally does nothing the entire first and second day but antagonize people and general dickbaggery. link
mafia down under 1: such troll, much wow link
2) The angry tunnel does not exist - The #1 mafia tell ritoky has as has been indicated by many players is that as mafia ritoky gets very angry when things don't go his way and he is prone to tunneling on a player and not interacting with the rest of the game. ritoky is also completely incapable of understanding jokes and flips out when people call him scum. in this game ritoky has pushed literal 0 people, never given a damn, and is content with getting lynched. clear town.
Example of angry ritoky tunnels:
Imperial mafia:
On January 08 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Jesus christ. If I claim cop, will you lynch him? I'm literally about to fucking claim cop just to get that to happen because it's so painfully obvious to me so painfully obvious that i am the cop? oh look, all the people that you wanted to cc me have come and passed. i am the cop; you don't like my play? go fuck yourself and deal with it. we should start discussing the lynch target for the day.
On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it.
On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote:On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life.
3) As mafia ritoky always has very clear lynch targets and tries to push them. This one is difficult to quote in a concise manner, you will have noticed it if you cared to do the research. Essentially, as mafia I like controlling the lynch, and I like influencing the direction of the game. Having not pushed a scum read this game, sorry cannot be mafia.
4) ritoky loves him some bussing. Not only does ritoky bus teammates hard, but he pushes back even harder. In this game, if ritoky were scum with JAT he would have bussed JAT HARD. He did not, cannot be scum.
Examples:
Down Under Mafia 2: ritoky tries hard to lynch Alakaslam day 1, after he magically survives, ritoky get's pissed off and calls for a vigi shot on teammate.
On March 04 2015 08:07 ritoky wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW YOU PIECES OF SHIT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHEEP MY FUCKING NEAR PERFECT SLAM READ
jesus christ. vigi shoot the shit out of slam if you exist, don't even think twice. send the action in right fucking now. 0 hesitation.
Carol of the Bells: Holyflare randomly starts scum reading ritoky for no reason, ritoky turns on the bus train
On December 11 2014 12:17 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:56 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:45 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:13 ritoky wrote:
HF can you start getting salty so i can read you as town already? you're doing town things, but you're not angry at idiots for lynching town....why? you're telling me I should berate people for.... listening to me!? what the shit are you even talking about you do that a lot...lol. especially when people listen to you for bad reasons and when you got people like koshi saying they are okay with it and rsoultin saying i told you so and kels pre-emptively saying i told you so. stop wasting my posts with insignificant bs I have like 7 left, I literally just said kelsier is very likely mafia for talking about all that crap pre-lynch and I'm not going to berate other people who have the same reads as me because that means they are likely town. I'm confused why you even have this read when you literally just expressed how I "fooled" you last game which means this salty read is clearly not a proper read at all if I can emulate it as both alignments, not to mention you said I've been doing towny things and somehow that's pushed under the rug I also said I was extremely sick and wouldn't be here post-deadline but here I am. you are mafia OMGUS, not angry, content on a stagnant read lynch, 0 development on bunnies read even after she posted, pushing other people but not moving your vote...thank you for making up my mind for me. you're feigning townie things, you're mafia. i don't see how anyone in their right mind who was reading this game could think any of those things about me, I posted about 700 times on bunnies after she returned with new info every time and you're telling me that finding other mafia while I sit on someone I think is mafia makes ME mafia roflroflroflroflroflroflrofl ORLY? Here is HF's initial read on bunnies: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred
Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.
And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?
While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that. I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because: A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad And B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off
##vote 27ninjabunnies
Enjoy your date It is his 3rd post of the thread, from there he talks about her 2 or 3 more times while she is here. She disappears from the thread for a long time. When she comes back here are his posts: Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 03:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum He attacked marv last game On December 10 2014 02:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually on another read through even though i'm slightly suspicious of Xata i'd probably never lynch him today Ritoky is a strange struggle read for me right now i'm not sure if hes town this time Please look into why he was angry at someone using meta reads because it looked pretty strange to me and I don't want to spend my remaining like 20 or less posts on it with 24 hours+ left  Bunnies re entry not that great cz she says she town read people for other posts and not the attack on froggy but that just means her original statement of people jumping on froggy is invalid because it's most of her town reads Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 03:19 Holyflare wrote:why the fuck did everyone dismiss my oats point btw? "I dunno how to read oats he just bad" is not a good reason at all and none of the vets even bothered to look at it and instead started pushing other nonsense. go read it here: click me!also now that bunnies actually said her claim wasn't a claim that's just really fucking disingenuous and scummy, her kelsier points weren't very good at all and i don't like that people took her "iffy" and "people to look at" claims as backwards because iffy means you have suspicion and to look at means null but somehow you all believe it's the other way aroundthere's also what kita said which was very good, she's only stuck at her "people" to look at really as scum reads the entirety of the cycle and hasn't paticularly changed, even on me lol -.- BASED ON MY FIRST POST???? Not to mention her hard on for kelsier that hasn't disappeared ever an on a "reread" of the thread had absolutely no new information whatsoever and still was going on about her list post and her reads only from that list post I dislike HF at the moment more than froggy for his entrance post. Tbh, I understand there is a cap to posts (which I am probably rapidly approacing), but you shouldn't come into the game with the mindset that you aren't going to post much because of the cap. However, I did post a post just recently saying why I like HF now, for his view on Kelsier. literally says that i'm disliked MORE than someone with 4 posts based on my entrance post but also liked now too? kind of a waste and pretty disingenuous to still be reading me based on my first post in an entirety of filter, not to mention there's a shit town of wasted filler posts in between each of her posts like "oh does anyone else read sickluckers name differently" people should be still on her anyway i realised i actually have quite a few posts for up to deadline so that's cool and i'm super ill so will probably rest after it only the bolded part is yours here, and then: Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 06:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
Like if it wAsint for that carol singer post I might be scared here. Like who randomly posts a video of themself carol singing it was a claim. Shes mafia back tracking. not sure I agree with this first part but the back tracking part yeh she's said "i might have to claim here" etc etc which eluded to having a role, posted the carol singers thing and then backtracked (still can't get over that -.-) etc etc and now it turns out she's just a disgruntled?
naaaaaaaaaaaaah bruv That's it, the rest of your posts after her return are about pushing on other people. you literally didn't develop this read at all after her return, you basically said "your kelsier read is crap" but now you agree with it to some extent apparently, and you didn't believe her claim/turned off by threatening a claim. that's the only development on your read since 2 hrs into the game in a 48 hour phase. that is not a HF read AT ALL. it is stagnant, it is crap, and it lynched town. you are mafia.
On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia.
On December 11 2014 13:17 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia. So you're saying that even though I spent 2-3 pages of filter PREVIOUSLY talking about bunnies all game the fact that I only spent a few long posts on her LATER when she had only posted like a page or less since I left with a lot of fluff in it makes me mafia? Why are you using the the latter half of the game to justify a read on me that should span the whole game? Have you even bothered to check the timestamps of when I've been around, I was sick all day and literally posted as much as I could on as many people I could in the time frame that I've been here (without trying to devolve into spammyness) I can't believe you'd ever make this read as town. Ever. It literally shows no progression of thought process at all and is a rough job of a case that is based on falsities twisted to fit your narrative. There is no way on this planet that a town ritoky would make this case. Just like the case you made on LS using exclusively meta reads. None of these things you are saying make anyone scum yet you're pushing them so vehemently that it's making YOU look scummy instead. I mean I think I am at the point of confirmation bias on HF now, he is mafia. Making excuses is something HF doesn't do, he is making multiple excuses here. He wasn't using his vote as a weapon at all last phase, which is the same thing he did after day 1 of hearthstone mafia. And yes, if you have a top scum read that is so firm as you won't flinch from it from 2 hrs into the phase until the end, I expect you to devote a crap load more than you did to pushing and developing it, you didn't. As for your criticism of my LS read, you forgot the part where I backed off and started defending him. I would make this read as town, because I am town. Something I don't think you can say.
Imperial Mafia: ritoky's scum reads include robik (town), superbia (teammate), marv (teammate), damdred (teammate), sicklucker (town)
ritoky didn't bus JAT and doesn't have firm enough scum reads to be bussing this game. Always busses as mafia, cannot be mafia.
5) The damdred factor - Damdred has a soul read on me. He subbed into a game where no one had suggested the idea I could be SK and called me SK 2 posts in. Damdred has called ritoky town, ritoky is town. Further ritoky always shoots damdred if ritoky is mafia. ALWAYS.
6) The VT claim - very simple mafia mechanics here, if you can't understand it I don't think you deserve to be playing right now. ritoky plays troll all day 1 phase, if ritoky is mafia in this situation and is faced with lynch pressure, ritoky claims PR and either outs a PR for a trade or buys a free day. Rather than do this, ritoky pre-emptively before the lynch pressure exists claims VT. This is a play that is literally the most inefficient and stupid thing ever as mafia.
7) Divergent reads - ritoky was mislynched a lot early on in his mafia career because he doesn't often give reads in a manner that coincides or agrees with the "vets" (really the circlejerk party). In the process of rolling 13 straight town games in his first 13 TL games, it became widely known that ritoky had divergent reads as town and sick day 1 reads that should be taken to the bank. A prime example is Hearthstone mafia. In games where ritoky is mafia his reads tend to not be very against the grain.
8) The last and simplest to understand point of how ritoky cannot be mafia: the notorious giant list post. Very commonly when ritoky is mafia he makes a giant list of every player in the game and gives reads on them. It is atrociously bad and easy to spot.
And that my friends is how there is literally 0 way ritoky is ever mafia this game.
tl;dr:
1) troll and jokes = town (filter examples)
2) angry tunnels when mafia, no angry tunnel this game
3) likes to have clear lynch targets as mafia, pushed 0 people this game = town
4) ritoky is #1 TL busser as mafia, did not bus JAT
5) damdred soul read, ritoky always shoots damdred ASAP
6) VT claim, would have claimed PR under pressure
7) ritoky reads counter to thread sentiment -> ritoky town
8) no giant read list post = ritoky town
you now know how it is impossible for ritoky to be mafia this game. anyone who votes on me is confirming their own idiocy.
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Here for a bit, will be here much more tonight.
Another Rayn soul read for I am the FUCKING RAYN WISPERER.
Rayn doesn't fakeclaim as mafia only as town. Rayn town 100%
@ritoky lets lynch prplhz. Like the only reason I see to think he is town is because marv says so. I expect Ryan's reads to jump everywhere but not prplhz. Plus he has been completely forgettable this game.
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Plus I would argue I am the #1 busser on TL. Had to make a conscious effort to not bus robik in hammer time...
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prp is one of my list, i can get down with that
##vote: prplhz
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idk me and marv got into such a bus fight in carol that they had to make 2 QTs
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or maybe that was imperial? dunno, forgot which
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On March 14 2015 09:55 ritoky wrote:The Grand Manifesto On Why Ritoky is Confirmed Town:1) Trollzy play - ritoky is incapable of humor and trollzy play as mafia. recently he demonstrated some ability to do it as Serial Killer, but that is very different from mafia. Examples of ritoky being trollzy - cell mafia 2: ritoky spams the thread with american flags and propoganda for the first 50 pages. linktitanic return of mspaint: ritoky literally does nothing the entire first and second day but antagonize people and general dickbaggery. linkmafia down under 1: such troll, much wow link2) The angry tunnel does not exist - The #1 mafia tell ritoky has as has been indicated by many players is that as mafia ritoky gets very angry when things don't go his way and he is prone to tunneling on a player and not interacting with the rest of the game. ritoky is also completely incapable of understanding jokes and flips out when people call him scum. in this game ritoky has pushed literal 0 people, never given a damn, and is content with getting lynched. clear town. Example of angry ritoky tunnels: Imperial mafia: Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote:On January 08 2015 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Jesus christ. If I claim cop, will you lynch him? I'm literally about to fucking claim cop just to get that to happen because it's so painfully obvious to me so painfully obvious that i am the cop? oh look, all the people that you wanted to cc me have come and passed. i am the cop; you don't like my play? go fuck yourself and deal with it. we should start discussing the lynch target for the day. Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote:On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote:On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. 3) As mafia ritoky always has very clear lynch targets and tries to push them. This one is difficult to quote in a concise manner, you will have noticed it if you cared to do the research. Essentially, as mafia I like controlling the lynch, and I like influencing the direction of the game. Having not pushed a scum read this game, sorry cannot be mafia. 4) ritoky loves him some bussing. Not only does ritoky bus teammates hard, but he pushes back even harder. In this game, if ritoky were scum with JAT he would have bussed JAT HARD. He did not, cannot be scum. Examples: Down Under Mafia 2: ritoky tries hard to lynch Alakaslam day 1, after he magically survives, ritoky get's pissed off and calls for a vigi shot on teammate. Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:07 ritoky wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW YOU PIECES OF SHIT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHEEP MY FUCKING NEAR PERFECT SLAM READ
jesus christ. vigi shoot the shit out of slam if you exist, don't even think twice. send the action in right fucking now. 0 hesitation. Carol of the Bells: Holyflare randomly starts scum reading ritoky for no reason, ritoky turns on the bus train Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 12:17 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:56 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:45 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:13 ritoky wrote:
HF can you start getting salty so i can read you as town already? you're doing town things, but you're not angry at idiots for lynching town....why? you're telling me I should berate people for.... listening to me!? what the shit are you even talking about you do that a lot...lol. especially when people listen to you for bad reasons and when you got people like koshi saying they are okay with it and rsoultin saying i told you so and kels pre-emptively saying i told you so. stop wasting my posts with insignificant bs I have like 7 left, I literally just said kelsier is very likely mafia for talking about all that crap pre-lynch and I'm not going to berate other people who have the same reads as me because that means they are likely town. I'm confused why you even have this read when you literally just expressed how I "fooled" you last game which means this salty read is clearly not a proper read at all if I can emulate it as both alignments, not to mention you said I've been doing towny things and somehow that's pushed under the rug I also said I was extremely sick and wouldn't be here post-deadline but here I am. you are mafia OMGUS, not angry, content on a stagnant read lynch, 0 development on bunnies read even after she posted, pushing other people but not moving your vote...thank you for making up my mind for me. you're feigning townie things, you're mafia. i don't see how anyone in their right mind who was reading this game could think any of those things about me, I posted about 700 times on bunnies after she returned with new info every time and you're telling me that finding other mafia while I sit on someone I think is mafia makes ME mafia roflroflroflroflroflroflrofl ORLY? Here is HF's initial read on bunnies: On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred
Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.
And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?
While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that. I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because: A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad And B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off
##vote 27ninjabunnies
Enjoy your date It is his 3rd post of the thread, from there he talks about her 2 or 3 more times while she is here. She disappears from the thread for a long time. When she comes back here are his posts: On December 10 2014 03:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum He attacked marv last game On December 10 2014 02:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually on another read through even though i'm slightly suspicious of Xata i'd probably never lynch him today Ritoky is a strange struggle read for me right now i'm not sure if hes town this time Please look into why he was angry at someone using meta reads because it looked pretty strange to me and I don't want to spend my remaining like 20 or less posts on it with 24 hours+ left Bunnies re entry not that great cz she says she town read people for other posts and not the attack on froggy but that just means her original statement of people jumping on froggy is invalid because it's most of her town reads On December 11 2014 03:19 Holyflare wrote:why the fuck did everyone dismiss my oats point btw? "I dunno how to read oats he just bad" is not a good reason at all and none of the vets even bothered to look at it and instead started pushing other nonsense. go read it here: click me!also now that bunnies actually said her claim wasn't a claim that's just really fucking disingenuous and scummy, her kelsier points weren't very good at all and i don't like that people took her "iffy" and "people to look at" claims as backwards because iffy means you have suspicion and to look at means null but somehow you all believe it's the other way aroundthere's also what kita said which was very good, she's only stuck at her "people" to look at really as scum reads the entirety of the cycle and hasn't paticularly changed, even on me lol -.- BASED ON MY FIRST POST???? Not to mention her hard on for kelsier that hasn't disappeared ever an on a "reread" of the thread had absolutely no new information whatsoever and still was going on about her list post and her reads only from that list post I dislike HF at the moment more than froggy for his entrance post. Tbh, I understand there is a cap to posts (which I am probably rapidly approacing), but you shouldn't come into the game with the mindset that you aren't going to post much because of the cap. However, I did post a post just recently saying why I like HF now, for his view on Kelsier. literally says that i'm disliked MORE than someone with 4 posts based on my entrance post but also liked now too? kind of a waste and pretty disingenuous to still be reading me based on my first post in an entirety of filter, not to mention there's a shit town of wasted filler posts in between each of her posts like "oh does anyone else read sickluckers name differently" people should be still on her anyway i realised i actually have quite a few posts for up to deadline so that's cool and i'm super ill so will probably rest after it only the bolded part is yours here, and then: On December 11 2014 06:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
Like if it wAsint for that carol singer post I might be scared here. Like who randomly posts a video of themself carol singing it was a claim. Shes mafia back tracking. not sure I agree with this first part but the back tracking part yeh she's said "i might have to claim here" etc etc which eluded to having a role, posted the carol singers thing and then backtracked (still can't get over that -.-) etc etc and now it turns out she's just a disgruntled?
naaaaaaaaaaaaah bruv That's it, the rest of your posts after her return are about pushing on other people. you literally didn't develop this read at all after her return, you basically said "your kelsier read is crap" but now you agree with it to some extent apparently, and you didn't believe her claim/turned off by threatening a claim. that's the only development on your read since 2 hrs into the game in a 48 hour phase. that is not a HF read AT ALL. it is stagnant, it is crap, and it lynched town. you are mafia. Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia. Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 13:17 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia. So you're saying that even though I spent 2-3 pages of filter PREVIOUSLY talking about bunnies all game the fact that I only spent a few long posts on her LATER when she had only posted like a page or less since I left with a lot of fluff in it makes me mafia? Why are you using the the latter half of the game to justify a read on me that should span the whole game? Have you even bothered to check the timestamps of when I've been around, I was sick all day and literally posted as much as I could on as many people I could in the time frame that I've been here (without trying to devolve into spammyness) I can't believe you'd ever make this read as town. Ever. It literally shows no progression of thought process at all and is a rough job of a case that is based on falsities twisted to fit your narrative. There is no way on this planet that a town ritoky would make this case. Just like the case you made on LS using exclusively meta reads. None of these things you are saying make anyone scum yet you're pushing them so vehemently that it's making YOU look scummy instead. I mean I think I am at the point of confirmation bias on HF now, he is mafia. Making excuses is something HF doesn't do, he is making multiple excuses here. He wasn't using his vote as a weapon at all last phase, which is the same thing he did after day 1 of hearthstone mafia. And yes, if you have a top scum read that is so firm as you won't flinch from it from 2 hrs into the phase until the end, I expect you to devote a crap load more than you did to pushing and developing it, you didn't. As for your criticism of my LS read, you forgot the part where I backed off and started defending him. I would make this read as town, because I am town. Something I don't think you can say. Imperial Mafia: ritoky's scum reads include robik (town), superbia (teammate), marv (teammate), damdred (teammate), sicklucker (town) ritoky didn't bus JAT and doesn't have firm enough scum reads to be bussing this game. Always busses as mafia, cannot be mafia. 5) The damdred factor - Damdred has a soul read on me. He subbed into a game where no one had suggested the idea I could be SK and called me SK 2 posts in. Damdred has called ritoky town, ritoky is town. Further ritoky always shoots damdred if ritoky is mafia. ALWAYS. 6) The VT claim - very simple mafia mechanics here, if you can't understand it I don't think you deserve to be playing right now. ritoky plays troll all day 1 phase, if ritoky is mafia in this situation and is faced with lynch pressure, ritoky claims PR and either outs a PR for a trade or buys a free day. Rather than do this, ritoky pre-emptively before the lynch pressure exists claims VT. This is a play that is literally the most inefficient and stupid thing ever as mafia. 7) Divergent reads - ritoky was mislynched a lot early on in his mafia career because he doesn't often give reads in a manner that coincides or agrees with the "vets" (really the circlejerk party). In the process of rolling 13 straight town games in his first 13 TL games, it became widely known that ritoky had divergent reads as town and sick day 1 reads that should be taken to the bank. A prime example is Hearthstone mafia. In games where ritoky is mafia his reads tend to not be very against the grain. 8) The last and simplest to understand point of how ritoky cannot be mafia: the notorious giant list post. Very commonly when ritoky is mafia he makes a giant list of every player in the game and gives reads on them. It is atrociously bad and easy to spot. And that my friends is how there is literally 0 way ritoky is ever mafia this game. tl;dr: 1) troll and jokes = town (filter examples) 2) angry tunnels when mafia, no angry tunnel this game 3) likes to have clear lynch targets as mafia, pushed 0 people this game = town 4) ritoky is #1 TL busser as mafia, did not bus JAT 5) damdred soul read, ritoky always shoots damdred ASAP 6) VT claim, would have claimed PR under pressure 7) ritoky reads counter to thread sentiment -> ritoky town 8) no giant read list post = ritoky town you now know how it is impossible for ritoky to be mafia this game. anyone who votes on me is confirming their own idiocy.
I'm sold
No really I buy this
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I'm exhausted after work so I'm going to give some rough thoughts before I go in depth in the am and want some feedback at this point from the game.
I think we need to lynch Rayn today, the lynch reminds me a lot of carol mafia when it was between kel and hf and mafia tram decided it would be better to keep hf with some cred than kel who was going down in flames at that point. Scum hates losing members early game needlessly. Its just a fact, jat could of potentially saves himself or the mafia tram could of saved him easily by just voting Rayn. The blow back if rayn is town in that situation is minimal to a degree because he had been kind of lackluster for most of the day and Marv spearheaded the lynch.
However no move was made even before jats claim and the cc, I need to look closer but I think that jat was leading by a wide margin and claimed and the only viable wagon was rayn at that point that we could switch to. So rayn hard claims... Then doesn't die and reduses to claim super weird kill during the night. Why leave confirmed rayn alive as medic? He descends hard claim because koshi is cc his only out.
More than likely rayn with the way mafia jat folded rayn is possible role locker godfather. I really think he's the lynch, plus the way he quit the game at this point even though he's in his mind solved it and a lot of the game agrees with his list.
doesn't look or feel town o think he's scum we should lynch him. Thoughts?
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i cannot see rayn killing rso, i just can't
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100% I can't see anyone killing rsoultin last night. Literally I can't see it.
Like from my pie which I'll go more in depth soon I'm least sure of oneg, rayn, prph and palmar in that order. Even palmar and you prph are town at this point I think.
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Maybe ritoky would, maybe me but never n1
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Sleeping for a bit then will do work explain how I came to where I am
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Ya it just confusing and ritoky you were only scum with Marv in Imperial in recent times at least. This entire situation is awkward for me on the claims but it was my faulty thinking that got us to this point sorry T_T Going to bed now and when I come back I will check everything!
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Marv and I could both shoot rsoultin for different reasons
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On March 14 2015 18:19 Palmar wrote:
Marv and I could both shoot rsoultin for different reasons
point being? Are you scum reading marv?
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