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DarthPunk
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 15:20 DarthPunk wrote: I said before that I thought LM looked townie for a few of his posts, That hasn't changed just because the thread collectively decided he was scum. Also he seems to be putting in effort. And trying to solve the game. Like I could be wrong. But I just prefer a Shining lynch. The read of yours I called bad? lol Calling him town for changing his vote when it was brought to his attention that his read on Bresh was based on complete misinformation? Anything else making you think he's town? | ||
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Breshke
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On January 23 2015 15:20 DarthPunk wrote: I said before that I thought LM looked townie for a few of his posts, That hasn't changed just because the thread collectively decided he was scum. Also he seems to be putting in effort. And trying to solve the game. Like I could be wrong. But I just prefer a Shining lynch. I don't get the impression that he is trying to solve the game at all he has four nulls and i don't see anywhere that he is trying to work out their alignments. | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote: I don't get the impression that he is trying to solve the game at all he has four nulls and i don't see anywhere that he is trying to work out their alignments. I personally don't consider four posts, two of which are a static scum read and the other two one-liners, a real attempt to solve the game, myself. The Shining comment was worth noting and investigating, but beyond that...most of his filter consists of questions without direction and few if any real reads. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On January 23 2015 15:22 rsoultin wrote: The read of yours I called bad? lol Calling him town for changing his vote when it was brought to his attention that his read on Bresh was based on complete misinformation? Anything else making you think he's town? I don't give a fuck if you think it's bad. I don't think it's bad and its my read. | ||
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rsoultin
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then turning around in the same post and also townreading him for rescinding his vote when this was brought to his attention... is just objectively a bad read. I'm surprised you're still hanging onto it. That's why I wanted to know if you have anything else convincing you he's town. Cause I definitely can't get behind you on that -_- | ||
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geript
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On January 23 2015 15:37 geript wrote: Other than posting less which I brought up. But idk if that makes any difference. It's just a feeling. Like when I read his filter I feel like he is being careful/ his posts are carefully constructed. I dunno how else to explain it honestly. | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 15:35 geript wrote: TBH, I kinda don't know where I am on Damdred. That has me questionable a bunch of things. Like I think you and Breshke are town. JJB is town unless there's a retard blue out there. Essentially we have 3 lynches to kill 4 people. So it's just kinda a matter of figuring out which person is most likely to be town of DP, Damdred, Shining, LM. DP's the most likely town imo, next I would guess is Shining. Between LM and Damdred it's a pretty simple lynch. We have to kill LM at some point. I like Breshke's points on him although Damdred was apparently pissed that they were your/damdred's points on N1 and I missed it but eh. I like Bresh and Shining for town. It's my silly BS meter again. I probably haven't explained my BS meter well, but their voting/pushes lined up well with where they were going in-thread before and during the lynch. Bresh in particular picked up his game when most of us were content to lynch the red check. I don't know about Damdred either. I don't think he's oozing town by any means, and poe points to him cause apart from LM I think I have decent reasons to tr everyone else, or at least think it through several times before scumming them. Can I ask you to do something for me? Cause I'm thinking you're town, genuinely. Your tone keeps throwing me off sometimes, but I have that problem with some players. Like, I expected a get the trfel reaction rather than a why am I not dead reaction from that red check. But what I'd like you to do, if you're willing, is to take a step back and just consider this game as if it's possible your read on DP is wrong. He's been sheeping you a ton-a-bunch. You know him better than anyone else in this game. Does he normally follow you around like a lost puppy even when it looks like he does seem to actually have opinions of his own? Is it possible that your townreading him might explain why you haven't been NKd? If you still think he's town after reconsidering it I can respect that. You know him better. The sheeping is really bugging me, though. It's like, the one main reservation I have about him. Cause all the vets scream at me that NKs are WIFOM, lol. | ||
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DarthPunk
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That is like a complete misrepresentation of what is actually happening. | ||
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Breshke
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On January 19 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote: I'm somewhat breaking my promise about not doing a ton of quotes in a post but i'm going to hide them behind spoilers to make readability better. Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM. These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either. I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me. The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote? At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off. Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment. Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to. pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter + Show Spoiler + On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote: Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today. Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons. I need to reread Damdred and geript. On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote: Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not. I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch. ##Vote: jarjarbinks On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him. ##Unvote ##Vote: TheWarWaffle | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 15:53 DarthPunk wrote: How am I sheeping geript a bunch? I switched onto some random and then we lynched a confirmed scum. Now I am wanting to lynch someone he thinks is town. That is like a complete misrepresentation of what is actually happening. Is it? You've made it clear you don't want to lynch LM and would prefer Shining, yes. But what about the rest of the game? The vote switch onto WW? Why not JJB? While most of us seem to be talking out our reads, I get the impression you're trying to consolidate yours with his, particularly Day 1. Your filter seems very townie, it's true. I still think that. I like most of your analysis this game. Even your push on GB. But you really have been buddying up to geript and I think he's in the best position to evaluate whether or not that play is normal from you. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On January 23 2015 15:59 rsoultin wrote: Is it? You've made it clear you don't want to lynch LM and would prefer Shining, yes. But what about the rest of the game? The vote switch onto WW? Why not JJB? While most of us seem to be talking out our reads, I get the impression you're trying to consolidate yours with his, particularly Day 1. Your filter seems very townie, it's true. I still think that. I like most of your analysis this game. Even your push on GB. But you really have been buddying up to geript and I think he's in the best position to evaluate whether or not that play is normal from you. I buddy up to people I think are strong players. Read any of my town games with rayn or geript | ||
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Breshke
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DarthPunk
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On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote: RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. Being careful means you care what people think of you which is a scum trait. | ||
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Breshke
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On January 23 2015 16:04 DarthPunk wrote: Being careful means you care what people think of you which is a scum trait. I think some newbie towns are also careful with what they say not that anyone should get a pass for being new. What do you think of me and RSo DP? Especially me, you seem more inclined to think LM is town and he scum reads me do you agree? | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote: RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. I do. I agree Shining is hard to read, however I did make the effort to read it and I'm not interpreting it as careful like he is. The rage against Damdred and GB, then the effort to make reads on geript and myself to determine which one of us is scum (when we're both generally townread and very vocal) do not seem like careful plays to me, even if he did townread us anyway after going back through. More to the point, I do not understand his LM read at all. He's not making an effort to sell it to me. If he really thinks LM is town and going to be mislynched, you'd think he'd try harder, even with us dumb noobs, to get us to see what he's seeing xP | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 23 2015 16:03 DarthPunk wrote: I buddy up to people I think are strong players. Read any of my town games with rayn or geript I'll let him make that assessment rather than trying to read a game I was never part of. | ||
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