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On January 23 2015 16:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 16:04 DarthPunk wrote:On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. Being careful means you care what people think of you which is a scum trait. I think some newbie towns are also careful with what they say not that anyone should get a pass for being new. What do you think of me and RSo DP? Especially me, you seem more inclined to think LM is town and he scum reads me do you agree?
Everything you say seems to make sense on the surface but you aren't in my town pile as much as geript and Rso.
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On January 23 2015 16:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. I do. I agree Shining is hard to read, however I did make the effort to read it and I'm not interpreting it as careful like he is. The rage against Damdred and GB, then the effort to make reads on geript and myself to determine which one of us is scum (when we're both generally townread and very vocal) do not seem like careful plays to me, even if he did townread us anyway after going back through. More to the point, I do not understand his LM read at all. He's not making an effort to sell it to me. If he really thinks LM is town and going to be mislynched, you'd think he'd try harder, even with us dumb noobs, to get us to see what he's seeing xP
I am not here and able to post 24/7 I work and do other things. Weekend is coming up so I should have a good amount of time to convince you noobs later.
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Okay. Looking forward to it, lol. At the very least, we won't have another all-in wagon probably. Which is way better for finding scum than everyone piling on one person ^^
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I've said that I could be wrong about DP before. I still don't really see that world existing.
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Hey DP, let's play a pretend world. Let's say LM is mafia, who's his most likely partner? Let's say Damdred is mafia, who's his most likely partner?
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On January 23 2015 16:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 16:07 Breshke wrote:On January 23 2015 16:04 DarthPunk wrote:On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. Being careful means you care what people think of you which is a scum trait. I think some newbie towns are also careful with what they say not that anyone should get a pass for being new. What do you think of me and RSo DP? Especially me, you seem more inclined to think LM is town and he scum reads me do you agree? Everything you say seems to make sense on the surface but you aren't in my town pile as much as geript and Rso.
Fair enough. I just don't get your LM read that much then because you say he is trying to solve the game but all he has done recently is make cases on me. It lead me to believe you were agreeing with him but apparently not so much?
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On January 23 2015 16:27 geript wrote:
I've said that I could be wrong about DP before. I still don't really see that world existing.
Alright. You know him best.
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On January 23 2015 16:29 geript wrote:
Hey DP, let's play a pretend world. Let's say LM is mafia, who's his most likely partner? Let's say Damdred is mafia, who's his most likely partner?
If LM is mafia in a pretend world then I am probably mafia in that pretend world cause I defended two scum day one.
Happily this is the real world where I am town and I think LM is probs town.
I don't think Damdred had any interesting connections besides GB.
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DP can you explain how LM is trying to solve the game. I can't see it, the only read he has substantiated is the read on me and he has 5 nulls whose alignments he doesn't seem interested in. Two of those nulls he had promised to look into and still isn't leaning either way on them. How can you call that trying to solve the game.
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Ugh I'm really sorry guys, my life has been nuts lately. Court date, moving at the end of the month, working overtime, it sucks. =/ I had a lot to catch up on and I'm more than willing to answer questions after this post.
LM - you asked if I looked into your filter and I did. I kept looking it over a few times, was about the size of mine and bare. I'm glad you're around now, even though I probably don't have a right to judge. You said Breshke isn't open to other options when it comes to you but I'm not sure what that is. You gave a torn read on Trfel that wanted to lean towards town, which was also a part of a post that was just a bunch of town reads. You also voted WW for voting with Trfel, when WW scummed GB early and voted before Trfel. You mention avoidance of reads but you only cased Breshke.
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Me right now:
Town:
Me
JJB - unCC Tracker
RSo
Geript
DP
Up in the air on: Damdred, Breshke
Scum: LM
This is all on LM's flip but if Damdred were scum, I don't see what he has to lose either way. He either busses his scum buddy early for town cred or on the super slim chance LM flips town, which I think still has a 1% possibility because no one is defending him, he gets us into an easy mislynch. Maybe it's just knowing his past scum games but I wouldn't put it past him, which is why I'm rethinking my read. It's not enough to scum him but enough to shake a strong town read in him.
Breshke echoes a few points that I agree with against LM, including his lack of trying to solve the game. However, I think I might be suffering the same paranoia here. Breshke's filter isn't anything too special other than the case on LM, and he did pick it up when Trfel was caught but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative. Scum losing a member might motivate the other members to pick it up, too.
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On January 23 2015 20:20 Breshke wrote:
DP can you explain how LM is trying to solve the game. I can't see it, the only read he has substantiated is the read on me and he has 5 nulls whose alignments he doesn't seem interested in. Two of those nulls he had promised to look into and still isn't leaning either way on them. How can you call that trying to solve the game.
He was posting some inquisitive questions in the thread earlier. But looking over his filter again I could be wrong after all.
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I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel.
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In that large shining post he has one townie point going for him and everything else is completely meh.
Cookie to those who point out what it was correctly.
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On January 23 2015 20:54 DarthPunk wrote:
I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel.
Yeah this has been in the back of my mind as well but i don't see how anyone could defend LM here. Yeah looking at his case on me i think it addresses good points about me not actually evaluating his play properly but other than that there is nothing. I really don't think he will flip town.
What is the thing you like about the shinings post i forfeit my chance at a cookie.
@Theshining could you explain why you think DP is town?
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On January 23 2015 20:54 DarthPunk wrote:
I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel.
I had this problem before with my first game with Bresh, and pushed a scum wagon, but the original train also turned out to be scum. If it was someone other than LM I'd be more concerned, or if the main point against LM was filter size/inactivity, making it a policy lynch...
You may be right, but provided he is scum, it would be hella difficult to defend him, I think, and trying might make it really easy to find the third scum. My instinct when wagons are too easy is to find a new train, too, but I honestly see nothing redeeming about LM.
I'll need something more concrete on Shining to support a Shining lynch, though. You called his post mostly meh with a sprinkling of town -shrugs- I'm not seeing how that makes him scum? And I'm not seeing the carefulness in his filter you were talking about, or why that couldn't come from town as well.
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On January 23 2015 20:54 DarthPunk wrote:
I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel.
Lol. When shining made that post I was like.... "Hmmm me, Damdred, Breshke, Shining, rsoultin... Who doesn't want to lynch LM?"
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DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.
Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him
Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.
Jarjar: Un cc'd blue
Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar
I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.
LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.
I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe
##Vote LM
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Day 3: Current Vote Count
LoneMeow (3): geript, rsoultin, Damdred
Not Voting (5): The Shining, LoneMeow, DarthPunk, Breshke, jarjarbinks
Currently, LoneMeow is set to be lynched. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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Fuck that. We're lynching Damdred today. Like the dude literally can't make his mind up on anyone. If I had a nickle for every time he's waffled his read on me then I'm pretty sure I'd have $2.
Seriously Damdred which reads haven't you gone all squiggle legs on? And every time you change your reason for changing views on someone. I don't think I've ever seen someone who's town change their opinions so much in a game. Damdred has literally not read a single filter since his "let's lynch LM" post at the beginning of the day. It's not like he read a filter on D2 either. D1, idk. But with as much flipping his views on everyone he does, I don't think so.
The main reason Damdred should've been lynched in Imperial was lack of doing shit he usually does as town. Usually he's pretty active as town, which he's not really been since D2. Usually he has some goddamn shitty opinion that he pushes, here he's not really pushing anything, his goddamn shitty opinion is extra shitty AND he can't even make up his fucking mind on his goddamn shitty opinion. Damdred has played long enough and has been in this game long enough to have a read to hang his hat on. That's not really there. On top of that this fucking sleezeball was willing to die for his townread that claimed VT. Like townies don't ever EVER do that. They know their reads can be wrong. Plus, he wasn't really doing any sort of anything to convince anyone else to vote for anyone on D1. Like the only redeeming point that Damdred has is that he seemingly wants to kill LM.
#stopthebullshit
#lynchtheperpetuallyundecided
#hisbloodforthebloodgod
##unvote
##vote Damdred
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On January 22 2015 22:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.
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##Vote: TheWarWaffle I'm not Breshke. But this is why I think you're scum, if I had to choose one vote in your entire filter. The JJB one was eh, but GB looked pretty townie imo at the time you posted it, so I don't find it terribly alignment indicative, however that reads like complete contrived BS. WW AFKd a vote on GB (again not alignment indicative, and GB was a scumread for him all game) and trfel only switched to GB a good deal later. It's factually untrue and looks to be grasping at straws to justify a vote change.
You do realise that I did not exactly have all the time in the world to check the sequence of events for deciding whether to switch? Also, why would I even bother to switch if I was scum? Both wagons were on town (I consider jarjarbinks 99.99% confirmed).
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