• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:07
CEST 21:07
KST 04:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event5Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 194Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4
StarCraft 2
General
TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
StarCon Philadelphia ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 775 users

Student Mafia V - Page 71

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 69 70 71 72 73 128 Next
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:49 GMT
#1401
On January 24 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote:
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through.


Where you headed with this?

Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 23 2015 22:50 GMT
#1402
Jarjar was lynch bait day 2 probably had someone ready to fake claim to get a mismatch. Nobody has ccd, and LS took kp last night.

This is a horrible thought,
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 22:54 GMT
#1403
On January 24 2015 07:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote:
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through.


Where you headed with this?

Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though.


-shrugs-

JJB is all but confirmed town (only situ he isn't is if we have a really dumb blue hanging around somewhere). NKs are WIFOM. If the intent was to give no information I think that succeeded.

Maybe the answer is in a unique read he had at the time?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:56 GMT
#1404
But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 23 2015 22:58 GMT
#1405
There cc failed in tr it looks like and everyone else besides you Geript has shown 100% believed the claim so everyone else is basically claiming mafia
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 23 2015 23:00 GMT
#1406
##Vote: LM

I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.

If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.

I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:08 GMT
#1407
On January 24 2015 07:56 geript wrote:
But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense.


geript, explain to me how it makes sense that JJB is scum this game. that is where this line of questioning ends.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 23 2015 23:10 GMT
#1408
Geript do you just get angry at anyone that scumreads you? You do realize that for everyone else there is still a chance your scum right?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 23 2015 23:12 GMT
#1409
Damdred i don't get your point about geript trying to discredit claims. I think the way the game has played out there hasn't really been a chance for mafia to CC.

So noone cc'd on D!. Then D2 LS came out. Mafia couldn't CC him there (other than trefel) Because that would have been a two for one. Also anyone cc'ing JJB that day would have also looked bad because the obvious play would have been just to wait for D3 because one you get another chance at a check if tracker or a possible save is doc.

D3 comes along and LS was killed which confirms there is no medic because anyone trying to explain why they wouldn't be saving LS there would have a hard time. So they can't claim doctor and they cant claim cop so they would have to directly cc JJB. This would elad to a couple questions, One why they didn't CC D1 and two why JJB has been getting roleblocked every night. Also the fact that we still have a misslynch before mylo means at best for them we lynch JJB first then them sending their partner into final 3.

Basically what im saying is that i do think the plan was for someone to CC some form of power role but LS's red check put a spanner in the works and didn't allow the play to happen. That is probably why GB was killed because killing JJB obviously confirms him thus not allowing a CC.

Also because of this i don't see how geript voicing his doubt on the roles achieves anything if he is scum. There is no chance anyone was going to actually not believe JJB until there is a CC and that CC wasn't going to happen for the reasons i just explained.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:15 GMT
#1410
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 23 2015 23:18 GMT
#1411
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.


Yeah I agree. I don't see how it is scummy of geript to doubt this. Useless maybe but not exactly scummy more like null because i don't see what he gains either way.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 23 2015 23:19 GMT
#1412
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:21 GMT
#1413
On January 24 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 07:56 geript wrote:
But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense.


geript, explain to me how it makes sense that JJB is scum this game. that is where this line of questioning ends.

It doesn't. I'm not even arguing that. I'm saying it's really weird that they would keep him around. Like if you weren't planning on CC'ing him, then you might as well kill him.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:24 GMT
#1414
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:24 GMT
#1415
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:25 GMT
#1416
On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.

But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:26 GMT
#1417
On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of?


Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes

That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3.

Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 23 2015 23:31 GMT
#1418
On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.

But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases.


How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:32 GMT
#1419
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 23 2015 23:33 GMT
#1420
I'll have to filter dive later at work atm to show Geript being weird about claims d2 onward.

I think rs and Breske have the right of it
Prev 1 69 70 71 72 73 128 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#9
ZZZero.O52
LiquipediaDiscussion
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Group Stage Day 2
uThermal1248
SteadfastSC271
IndyStarCraft 269
LamboSC2148
goblin40
SpiritSC26
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 1248
SteadfastSC 271
IndyStarCraft 269
LamboSC2 148
BRAT_OK 88
goblin 40
ProTech33
SpiritSC2 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3698
Rain 1993
Artosis 991
BeSt 329
ggaemo 288
Dewaltoss 115
Mong 107
ZZZero.O 52
Rock 29
sas.Sziky 21
[ Show more ]
yabsab 18
JulyZerg 13
Terrorterran 6
Shine 6
Stormgate
B2W.Neo394
BeoMulf198
JuggernautJason35
Dota 2
qojqva3804
Dendi1837
Counter-Strike
fl0m2965
flusha283
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu566
Khaldor353
Other Games
Grubby1302
Hui .163
mouzStarbuck127
Fuzer 97
Trikslyr43
OptimusSC29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1091
StarCraft 2
angryscii 18
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 47
• davetesta10
• iHatsuTV 6
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 15
• iopq 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV772
• Ler83
League of Legends
• Jankos1385
Other Games
• imaqtpie1343
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 53m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 53m
Wardi Open
1d 15h
RotterdaM Event
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.