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On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive. But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best.
Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.
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On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM
I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.
If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.
I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.
I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch.
Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.
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On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive. But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best. Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.
Hmm I don't understand this... So LS red checks trfel. Trfel flips scum so if this imaginary medic were real, then the medic would therefore save LS. LS died so that means medic isn't around...right?
I would think it would be smarter to try to save LS and see if no deaths occur over most likely getting your cop killed just to "double check" that his red check wasn't mafia trying to sway everyone. Worst case you lose tracker and know a mafia. Best case you save cop and know mafia. Definitely worth the risk I my mind because Cop>Tracker.
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On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive. But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best. Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.
Hmm I don't understand this... So LS red checks trfel. Trfel flips scum so if this imaginary medic were real, then the medic would therefore save LS. LS died so that means medic isn't around...right?
I would think it would be smarter to try to save LS and see if no deaths occur over most likely getting your cop killed just to "double check" that his red check wasn't mafia trying to sway everyone. Worst case you lose tracker and know a mafia. Best case you save cop and know mafia. Definitely worth the risk in my mind because Cop>Tracker.
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oops my bad. I thought my compy blocked me.
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On January 24 2015 08:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM
I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.
If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.
I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy. I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch. Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.
Actually, someone's post on how killing LS before me made more sense than my argument for keeping me alive. Having a 100% town is pretty helpful, despite my not so good reads sometimes lol
I'm uncertain on the damdred vs geript battle going on... if one of those was scum, which one would u choose?
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On January 24 2015 08:53 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive. But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best. Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective. Hmm I don't understand this... So LS red checks trfel. Trfel flips scum so if this imaginary medic were real, then the medic would therefore save LS. LS died so that means medic isn't around...right? I would think it would be smarter to try to save LS and see if no deaths occur over most likely getting your cop killed just to "double check" that his red check wasn't mafia trying to sway everyone. Worst case you lose tracker and know a mafia. Best case you save cop and know mafia. Definitely worth the risk in my mind because Cop>Tracker.
Well, if there Cop claims a red check that flips red and there's no NK, then that would generally mean that the Tracker claim is false. The point is that there are two contrasting plays that were made (or not):
1. GB (a claimed vt) is killed, JJB (a claimed tracker) is not killed
2. There is no counterclaim against JJB
Like you don't kill a vt who's generally read as town but is ineffective instead of killing a confirmed town that you don't intend to CC. Like that's insanity.
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On January 24 2015 09:01 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:37 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM
I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.
If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.
I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy. I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch. Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol. Actually, someone's post on how killing LS before me made more sense than my argument for keeping me alive. Having a 100% town is pretty helpful, despite my not so good reads sometimes lol I'm uncertain on the damdred vs geript battle going on... if one of those was scum, which one would u choose?
I'd choose Damdred. I may be slightly biased. It's possible that Damdred is just playing badly. In the least he deserves to die for thinking I'm mafia.
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On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive. But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best. Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.
Yeah exactly you wouldn't CC until the D3 which is today.
For a medic CC to be believable LS would have had to not die in the night because the doc would obviously save him.
This means that the RB would have to be on LS. Therefore they can't RB JJB and they can't kill him (because then the medic CC makes no sense unless LS outs a partner) So they leave JJB alive without role blocking him which is bad for them. Also considering we have a misslynch before mylo we always kill the scum there so at worst we are in mylo.
This isn't a good situation for them since our roles are useless anyway because of the RBer. I don't really think talking about this anymore is useful really. So Geript, say LM flips scum and damdred is lynched and flips town. Who do you then want to lynch?
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##Vote: LoneMeow
Forgot to do this.
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That leaves like JJB, rsoulin, Breshke, DP. With 2 lynches there'd essentially be 2 KP, so JJB and someone. It would actually depend a decent amount on who got the second NK. I'd guess DP at that point, but honestly idk. Like that assumes a bunch of things that can't be known unless you're mafia.
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I don't get it why would you lynch jjb in that case?
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But seriously that's not a real answer. You have to have someone you are Scum reading past me
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I probably didn't write that the clearest. I'd guess I'd lynch DP then, but it would depend on the second NK (JJB presumably being the first NK).
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On January 24 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:
But seriously that's not a real answer. You have to have someone you are Scum reading past me
Not really. Palmer has taught me that 90% of the people who call me mafia are actually mafia. So you must die for your lack of faith in our hero and savior Geript Christ.
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Ok prediction, rs dies tonight or Tommorow with jarjar the following day or tonight leaving a final of. Geript dp, shining, Breske. That is scary
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Damdred i want the same from you. If geript isn't mafia who is?
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It'd be between LM and DP likely, but I honestly don't actually care about the third right now. Like if LM flips town, then it's Damdred + rso/bre; if he flips mafia it's DP. Or at least that's the likelihood in both situations.
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I keep on forgetting about Shining.
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