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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 24 2015 00:46 GMT
#1441
On January 24 2015 09:45 Damdred wrote:
Ok prediction, rs dies tonight or Tommorow with jarjar the following day or tonight leaving a final of. Geript dp, shining, Breske. That is scary


Why do you assume you are going to be lynched?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:47 GMT
#1442
I'm going to laugh if it's Shining/LM. It would make a decent amount of sense.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 24 2015 00:48 GMT
#1443
Geript is town read by a majority, I'm null read to Scum read by majority
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 00:48 GMT
#1444
On January 24 2015 09:01 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM

I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.

If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.

I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.


I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch.

Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.


Actually, someone's post on how killing LS before me made more sense than my argument for keeping me alive. Having a 100% town is pretty helpful, despite my not so good reads sometimes lol

I'm uncertain on the damdred vs geript battle going on... if one of those was scum, which one would u choose?


meh, if I had to with a gun to my head right now i'd say damdred, but frankly this is exactly why I want to lynch lm...the third mafia is I don't know who
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 24 2015 00:50 GMT
#1445
I'll explain after game why I've been apathetic about the thread a bit. But I'm town
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:52 GMT
#1446
Meh. Killing lurkers ain't bad. Not sure I want to vote with Damdred though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:54 GMT
#1447
Plus. He still hasn't apologized and worshiped at the feet of our lord and savior Geript Christ. How does one expect to be forgiven without doing so. Repent now!!!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 24 2015 00:55 GMT
#1448
LM isn't just a lurker, i think there is decent reasons why he is mafia.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 00:58 GMT
#1449
On January 24 2015 09:52 geript wrote:
Meh. Killing lurkers ain't bad. Not sure I want to vote with Damdred though.


You should kill who you think is most likely to flip scum. (obvious statement, I know) But, seriously, if all LM is to you is a lurker policy lynch and you're scumreading someone else, you shouldn't be voting LM anyway. This post makes it seem like you don't really think LM is scum? Or at least any more than any other lurker.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:07 GMT
#1450
On January 24 2015 00:22 geript wrote:
Fuck that. We're lynching Damdred today. Like the dude literally can't make his mind up on anyone. If I had a nickle for every time he's waffled his read on me then I'm pretty sure I'd have $2.

Seriously Damdred which reads haven't you gone all squiggle legs on? And every time you change your reason for changing views on someone. I don't think I've ever seen someone who's town change their opinions so much in a game. Damdred has literally not read a single filter since his "let's lynch LM" post at the beginning of the day. It's not like he read a filter on D2 either. D1, idk. But with as much flipping his views on everyone he does, I don't think so.

The main reason Damdred should've been lynched in Imperial was lack of doing shit he usually does as town. Usually he's pretty active as town, which he's not really been since D2. Usually he has some goddamn shitty opinion that he pushes, here he's not really pushing anything, his goddamn shitty opinion is extra shitty AND he can't even make up his fucking mind on his goddamn shitty opinion. Damdred has played long enough and has been in this game long enough to have a read to hang his hat on. That's not really there. On top of that this fucking sleezeball was willing to die for his townread that claimed VT. Like townies don't ever EVER do that. They know their reads can be wrong. Plus, he wasn't really doing any sort of anything to convince anyone else to vote for anyone on D1. Like the only redeeming point that Damdred has is that he seemingly wants to kill LM.

#stopthebullshit
#lynchtheperpetuallyundecided
#hisbloodforthebloodgod
##unvote
##vote Damdred



This is a good point actually.

I find damdreds play this game very similar to Imperial.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 24 2015 01:09 GMT
#1451
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.

I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.

I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 24 2015 01:10 GMT
#1452
On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?


Damdred or you.

I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him.



Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone.

Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him.

But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:13 GMT
#1453
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 24 2015 01:13 GMT
#1454
Tell me about what's going on shining instead of about old things
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 24 2015 01:13 GMT
#1455
On January 24 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?


Damdred or you.

I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him.



Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone.

Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him.

But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.


I don't think LM's post on me was OMGUS. As i said before he made some legitimate points.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:15 GMT
#1456
On January 24 2015 09:54 geript wrote:
Plus. He still hasn't apologized and worshiped at the feet of our lord and savior Geript Christ. How does one expect to be forgiven without doing so. Repent now!!!


-_-
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:18 GMT
#1457
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:19 GMT
#1458
On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.

I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.

I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.


I said earlier that I was putting to much weight into some posts he made that don;t look as good as I thought they could.


LM could totally be scum here. But there has not been a case on LM that has made me go 'damn. that dude is scum'

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:22 GMT
#1459
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 24 2015 01:24 GMT
#1460
On January 24 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?


Damdred or you.

I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him.



Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone.

Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him.

But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.


Why should I not lynch you ?

##vote:

The shining
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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