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On January 22 2015 05:28 Lucumo wrote: Would there be any other way to play EU IV apart from Steam? I hate Steam. I believe after the first time you can just run the exe by itself, no steam required
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On January 22 2015 05:18 Nocci wrote: Seeing this games' title fairly often in the sidebar made me pick it up during the steam winter sale and yesterday I started playing it...
Well I've never been this confused after 10h of playing a game, usually I've either given up on the game or figured it out. This one is weird, I kinda like it but I have no idea what I'm doing.
Can anyone point me somewhere in the direction of a solid beginners guide? It feels quite overwehelming for now. The tutorials help a lot, and the wiki even more. I generally have it open in a tab when I'm playing. For a relatively easy start, can't go wrong with the big three - britain for a safer, more isolated (at first) experience, france for powerbase and experience with vassals, and castille/spain for fun with colonization and access to the mediterranean.
What have you done in your ten hours?
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what country is best if you want to play an economic game? develop trade routes at the same time have challenging neighbors? I prefer countries that doesnt have developed economies but fun to improve?
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Depends on how strong of a country you want. Something like The Hansa would be a strong trading nation, but not a particularly challenging one. Some of the italian nations would probally be a step below them. Then there are the options out of europe.
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On January 22 2015 12:57 icystorage wrote: what country is best if you want to play an economic game? develop trade routes at the same time have challenging neighbors? I prefer countries that doesnt have developed economies but fun to improve? Genoa is interesting in that two of your trading posts are in Golden Horde territory, meaning you want to do your best not to get dragged in a war against them. You also have Lesbos (next to Ottomans) and then a few provinces at home. Basically if you want to have any friends in the east, you're going to lose a lot of prestige in the process.
As Muscovy, you can play an economic-focused expansion game. You're always going to be in fights with the Golden Horde, and if you take Economic/Trade ideas (usually you'd take expansion and/or religious, but you have leeway as Muscovy so it's not necessary), you can use the land you conquer to create your own silk road from the east to Novgorod or Kiev.
You can also try Portugal and build a trade empire via colonies. You'll get trade power transferred from Brazil/Africa to you in Seville, and you're not OP like Spain if you want to screw around with the North African countries. Aragon is the same deal, except instead of Brazil your trade is coming from the Mediterranean islands (like Sicily, etc.) and you also have to watch out for Castille PU'ing you, which means you have to deal with the French, either allying them or some other shenanigans.
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Genoa looks interesting i'll give it a run later :D thanks
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On January 22 2015 12:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:28 Lucumo wrote: Would there be any other way to play EU IV apart from Steam? I hate Steam. I believe after the first time you can just run the exe by itself, no steam required Yeah, it works for SP, but MP should be a different thing, shouldn't it?
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On January 22 2015 12:57 icystorage wrote: what country is best if you want to play an economic game? develop trade routes at the same time have challenging neighbors? I prefer countries that doesnt have developed economies but fun to improve? Mogadishu is what you're looking for. Great trade-oriented ideas, best trade node in the game outside of the end-nodes (Zanzibar), and a decently difficult start - you start with a center of trade but that's pretty much all the positives going for you.
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mogadishu is in gulf of aden iirc
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oops. its only 200 admin to move though
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Around what time do Europeans land in India? I'm in 1522 now and I want to fight the Europeans while I'm not westernised yet, never done it befor and I'd like an extra challange.
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It's not such a big deal after the troops rebalance. What matters is the tech diference.
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That makes sense. So when can I expect them to arrive?
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What do you guys recommend when playing Portugal?
I'm pretty much following History. Colonize Africa, Brazil. Go my way into India.
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On January 22 2015 12:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The tutorials help a lot, and the wiki even more. I generally have it open in a tab when I'm playing. For a relatively easy start, can't go wrong with the big three - britain for a safer, more isolated (at first) experience, france for powerbase and experience with vassals, and castille/spain for fun with colonization and access to the mediterranean.
What have you done in your ten hours?
I started as Castile twice, first time was fairly short and I got crushed by my neighbors because I did some stupid stuff. My second try is still running and going way better so far, I got a good portion of northern Africa and some colonies overseas, though France crushed me cause I was way out of position and I stopped playing since it was late anyways. I'll see if I can salvage the situation from one of the autosaves. Though I won't be too sad when I have to start over, I'd do a lot of things differently (presumably better).
I'll just keep playing with the wiki open
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On January 23 2015 04:07 TMG26 wrote: What do you guys recommend when playing Portugal?
I'm pretty much following History. Colonize Africa, Brazil. Go my way into India. Yeah. You can play really agressive in Northern Africa though. They are no match for you and your allies. At some point you want to decide if you want to backstab your big brother Castille/Spain but you probably have to play dirty and ally France for that.
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On January 23 2015 02:35 RvB wrote: That makes sense. So when can I expect them to arrive?
In most my games the AI is quite bad at getting in india, and even worse at routing indian trade. This might not be all the AI's fault though, since even as a human player trying to play a historical Portugual it's not easy to have a good presence there by 1530.
They'll probably arive sometime in the 1600s, maybe 1700s.
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first move for non-historical power Portugal is ally Aragon, kill Castile for Andalucia ASAP. That single province practically removes Castile from the Sevilla node.
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trying to play the PU game - had 3 opportunities for succession war (for Aragon, Bohemia, and Muscovy), 2 at 60+ year old king. They had an heir each time. Also Austria managed to interregnum into...another Habsburg, despite being married to both glorious Kastrioti and scum Valois.
one of these days...
Bonus, this is what happens when Burgundian inheritance doesn't fire:
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That Brandenburg though. Also, wouldn't it make more sense to collect in Venice instead of steering in Crimea at this point? Apart from that, looks pretty nice!
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